UK Brits urged to swear oath to their king for first time

Brits urged to swear oath to their king for first time​

The Archbishop of Canterbury will call for a “chorus of millions” to recite a pledge of fealty to the UK monarchy


King Charles III leaves Westminster Palace after the presentation of addresses by both houses of Parliament last September in London. © Getty Images / Ian Vogler
Next week’s coronation of King Charles III will feature an invitation for all British people to swear their allegiance to the new monarch and his descendants in what organizers have billed as a “chorus of millions.”
The ceremony has been revised to include a “homage of the people,” rather than the traditional “homage of peers” in which dukes pledge their allegiance to the sovereign, according to plans announced on Saturday by the Church of England.
Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby will call upon “all persons of goodwill” in the UK and its territories – those attending the ceremony at Westminster Abbey and those watching on television or the internet – to recite the following vows: “I swear that I will pay true allegiance to Your Majesty and to your heirs and successors according to the law, so help me God.” The archbishop will then proclaim, “God save the king” and ask all to respond: “God save King Charles. Long live King Charles. May the king live forever.”
https://www.rt.com/news/573963-biden-skip-coronation-charles-uk/
The public pledge is among several tweaks to a ceremony with ancient traditions, some of which date back nearly half a millennium. “Our hope is at that point, when the archbishop invites people to join in, that people wherever they are, if they’re watching at home on their own, watching the telly, will say it out loud – this sense of a great cry around the nation and around the world of support for the king,” a Lambeth Palace spokesperson said.
Among other changes to the traditional ceremony, the coronation will feature female clergy taking a prominent role and leaders of other faiths presenting the king with regalia for the events, including his robe, ring and bracelets. A hymn will be sung in Welsh, Scottish Gaelic and Irish Gaelic. The service will celebrate tradition while adding “new elements that reflect the diversity of our contemporary society,” the archbishop said.
However, King Charles III will take the traditional oaths, including a pledge to maintain “the Protestant Reformed religion.” The archbishop will preface the oath by saying that the Church of England will seek to foster an environment where “people of all faiths and beliefs may live freely.”

 
You don't have to be a royal to have connections.
A factually accurate and pointless statement. The Royal Family are spectacularly entrenched in the British establishment with a level of influence and protection and wealth that most people cannot fathom. And are therefore very powerful. That other people can also have connections is irrelevant to either of my statements. But I can tell you're one of those people who always insist on being right on the Internet even when all evidence suggests that you're a genetic idiot. Enjoy the sense of superiority that comes with ignoring every contrary viewpoint to your own.

this is why no one takes the church of england seriously anymore; they don't even take themselves seriously. A rabbi at the coronation?
At this point, the evidence suggests that the Church of England don't even believe in God. Frankly, I'm not sure they ever did. And as head of the Church of England, Charles kneeling in a Mosque last year symbolically is a deep betrayal and renouncement of Christianity by the CoE, too.

Nothing would surprise a CoE clergyman more than seeing Jesus.
 
Charles should have declared Total Tory/Labour Death and just closed the fucking parliament already to clean house and salvage the UK from collapse.

Instead he is just helping all of it alone. What a fucking shame.

I find it very interesting actually that a movie was made back in 2017 where Charles actually does it. He goes and dissolves the parliament to help the country. Except the film shows it as some morally gray and way too harsh thing despite the fact Charles III is doing it to stop them passing a law that would effectively destroy freedom of press and speech in the UK and allow the government too much control over it.

Quite amazing. The Br*tish have gotten so cucked that the King literally using his power to fuck protocol in the name of ensuring his subjects can shit talk politicians and even the monarch is seen as "wow uhm that's a bit much innit we can't do that ain't proper" to them.
 
A factually accurate and pointless statement. The Royal Family are spectacularly entrenched in the British establishment with a level of influence and protection and wealth that most people cannot fathom. And are therefore very powerful. That other people can also have connections is irrelevant to either of my statements.
There is a big difference between "Power derived from connections" and "Power derived from the law."

Jeff Bezos also has the ability to influence and bypass the law using connections without being a royal and there are royals without such power.

The statement isn't pointless because that's the point I was making about the monarchy, which you would have figured out if you hadn't gotten so irrationally upset for no reason.
But I can tell you're one of those people who always insist on being right on the Internet even when all evidence suggests that you're a genetic idiot. Enjoy the sense of superiority that comes with ignoring every contrary viewpoint to your own.
You are chimping out for no reason. If you disagree with me you don't have to shit up the discussion with insults when you can just say what your problem is.
 
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There is a big difference between "Powerful derived from connections" and "Power derived from the law."
Again, your ability to connect what you're saying to what you're replying to is demonstrated. @Otterly made the simple statement that the British royal family "have a lot more power than they do officially" you replied and disputed it and I simply said (accurately) that they have a tonne of connections, influence and protection which gives them power. You've been attempting to disagree by setting up strawmen ever since.

As to "who pissed in my cereal this morning," you did, metaphorically. With the Kiwifarms being the bowl, other people's comments being filled with crunchy goodness and your simple brained mewlings being the piss that spoils it.
 
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Again, your ability to connect what you're saying to what you're replying to is demonstrated. @Otterly made the simple statement that the British royal family "have a lot more power than they do officially" you replied and disputed it and I simply said (accurately) that they have a tonne of connections, influence and protection which gives them power. You've been attempting to disagree by setting up strawmen ever since.
Because I wasn't talking about connections, I was talking about the fact that in theory/on paper the british royals have the right to dissolve the parliament whenever they want which most people (outside the UK at least) aren't aware of, but if they try to use that power it will be the end of the monarchy, but instead of trying to understand my point you completely lost your shit for no reason and started insulting me.
 
Charles is a doddering tard that has already started pissing away any goodwill I might have had with the whole "Actively sucking off Pakis" thing he did recently. That plus his stance on importing infinity niggers, the refusal to clean house properly; and the general uselessness of the royal family as an institute leans me towards 'lol no'.

If you want an oath of allegiance or shit like that from the people of Britain, maybe don't talk happily about how we should all go extinct and be replaced by MukMuk Orcs with mud religions. Faggot.

Charles isn't in any real control, like the politicians, most of them are just figureheads.

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The main differences is the US Pledge of Allegiance is pledging to a common concept. Whereas this one is declaring Allegiance to a Putz. A specific named individual Putz. It's like pledging your life and loyalty to DSP.

Bongland is now officially Lolcow, the nuclear armed nation stae.
*Looks back at years and years of stories about medical malpractice, child abuse, and bureaucratic malevolence*

...now?

Liz's death is the gilded paint finally crumbling off the rotting facade of the country.
 
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I'm not surprised but also its interesting how a bunch of inbred pedophile supporters have so much power. I also found out Lord Mountbatten had a thing for underage boys. Essentially the Irish did us a favor, all things considered.

The monarchy is an absolute shitstain.
A pedo who knew he had impunity, a grossly incompetent military commander in WW2 and substantially responsible for a catastrophic famine in India. The Lads didn't do so bad except there were local boys in the boat (why?). Chas 3 was best buds with Jimmy Saville and the sadist and pederast Anglican bishop Ball. There are others obviously, but those two are well enough known. Monarchs generally pose as upholders of tradition, but facilitate its destruction in all areas except for their pomp and flummery. Chas is a climate change fanatic and his late Dad Phil the Greek fantasised he'd come back as a bug to reduce the world population.
 
A factually accurate and pointless statement. The Royal Family are spectacularly entrenched in the British establishment with a level of influence and protection and wealth that most people cannot fathom. And are therefore very powerful. That other people can also have connections is irrelevant to either of my statements. But I can tell you're one of those people who always insist on being right on the Internet even when all evidence suggests that you're a genetic idiot. Enjoy the sense of superiority that comes with ignoring every contrary viewpoint to your own.


At this point, the evidence suggests that the Church of England don't even believe in God. Frankly, I'm not sure they ever did. And as head of the Church of England, Charles kneeling in a Mosque last year symbolically is a deep betrayal and renouncement of Christianity by the CoE, too.

Nothing would surprise a CoE clergyman more than seeing Jesus.
his own position is quite similar to that of t he church; he thinks that by a sniveling deference and trying to please everyone people will respect him. He (and the church) don't realise it doesn't work that way
 
What did the irish do?
They bravely murdered innocent women and children

Whats the point of these expensive welfare recipients anyway?
It's important that the head of state and the head of government be separate powers, lest you develop cults of personality that descend into despotism.

Constitutional monarchies remain the most stable forms of government in the world, with some of the lowest levels of corruption and the highest levels of freedom, so obviously they've survived for good reason - getting rid of the Kaiser lead to Hitler, getting rid of the Tsar lead to Stalin, and ousting the Shah lead to Khomeini.

Nations are more than bureaucrats and interchangeable politicians, people need leaders which embody their culture, principles, values, and traditions, who provide stability and act as a lightning rod for all of the ceremonial roles required for diplomacy and governing (the head of your government should not be pardoning turkeys, handing out medals, attending charity events, and cutting ribbons).
 
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So I don't usually know (Or care) about bongland royalty.

But even brits I know that usually love the monarchy have nothing good to say about this guy. What's the deal?
 
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Hahaha, Bongistan is done.
Nah, that's normal. Celtic fans have traditionally never supported the monarchy. Kinda renowned for it, actually, what with being the sports outreach arm of the IRA. Not so much since the Good Friday agreement, but still.
Rangers are the Monarchists.
 
So I don't usually know (Or care) about bongland royalty.

But even brits I know that usually love the monarchy have nothing good to say about this guy. What's the deal?

Waiting so long to be king has rotted his elderly brain.

He took a pattern in the last decade of adopting whatever woke nonsense came along, to stay relevant and hope that got him good headlines, because he couldn't handle how irrelevant he's been for the majority of his life.

Doesn't acknowledge any UK holidays, records a King's Speech to honor Ramadan. He's technically the head of the Church of England, which has recently been coming out with statements like "God is gender neutral".

He's just a bit of a spineless wet-blanket. The Royal Family are an evil bunch of inbred twats, but the Queen could fix jeeps and Phillip just said whatever the fuck he wanted. Throw in on top of that, Elizabeth wasn't expected to be Queen, nor did she really want to be. Charles on the other hand, has been frothing at the mouth for his entire life.

Hahaha, Bongistan is done.

That's been standard for decades, Scotland traditionally/historically hasn't been a fan of the monarchy.

For everything else you can say about the film "So I Married An Axe Murder" - Mike Myers created the most accurate depiction of Scottish expats I've ever seen on screen.

The clip below is relevant to this - you only need to watch the last 10 seconds or so;


This was 1993, and anti-Royal sentiment was so strong with Scottish people that even a Canadian noticed it.
 
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It's important that the head of state and the head of government be separate powers, lest you develop cults of personality that descend into despotism.

Constitutional monarchies remain the most stable forms of government in the world, with some of the lowest levels of corruption and the highest levels of freedom, so obviously they've survived for good reason - getting rid of the Kaiser lead to Hitler, getting rid of the Tsar lead to Stalin, and ousting the Shah lead to Khomeini.

Nations are more than bureaucrats and interchangeable politicians, people need leaders which embody their culture, principles, values, and traditions, who provide stability and act as a lightning rod for all of the ceremonial roles required for diplomacy and governing (the head of your government should not be pardoning turkeys, handing out medals, attending charity events, and cutting ribbons).
I thought they were just the UK's state-funded equivalent of the Kardashians for UK gossip magazines.
 
So I don't usually know (Or care) about bongland royalty.

But even brits I know that usually love the monarchy have nothing good to say about this guy. What's the deal?
Lefties don’t like him because he’s a monarch, righties don’t like him because he’s seen as a globalist shill. Middle don’t like him because he’s not his mother and also feel Diana was hard done by.
Nah, that's normal. Celtic fans have traditionally never supported the monarchy. Kinda renowned for it, actually, what with being the sports outreach arm of the IRA. Not so much since the Good Friday agreement, but still.
Rangers are the Monarchists.
They still are - they’ve had banners of Bobby Sands, Troubles sniper signs and singing about Lee Rigby (British soldier who was murdered in a non-combat scenario) in recent times. And aside from that their Green Brigade support who did all this also twerks for Palestine and put up ‘decolonised’ street names in Glasgow during BLM. They’re the most Angry Reddit fanbase out there.
 
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