Western Animation - Discuss American, Canadian, and European cartoons here (or just bitch about wokeshit, I guess)

[A Grey Cat]

So is Chris Hartman dad or dinkleberg?

chris?...wasnt that the name of the brother butch had a fight with? He was gonna originally name timmy after a different brother he had but after they had a fight he named him after Tim Hartman instead.

 

[skykiii]

Yea and they are making a pluto series which I heard is a more dark version of astro boy

... This probably should be in the Anime/Manga topic at this point....

But from what I understand, Pluto is a retelling of the Astro manga's "Greatest Robot in the World" storyline, but somehow made into a detective story. I haven't read it yet but its apparently really good. Dunno how the animated version will hold up though.

 

[AnOminous]

You mean in like the 80s?
When looking at specifically leads, it's a struggle actually thinking of one post 2000s aside from, ironically, steven universe.

I remember Fat Albert.

Honestly the moment they were hyping up the Paw Patrol movie is enough of a reason to not take them seriously.

Other than actual kids, fans of Paw Patrol are almost universally absolute degenerates who make bronies look normal.

 

[Shidoen]

chris?...wasnt that the name of the brother butch had a fight with? He was gonna originally name timmy after a different brother he had but after they had a fight he named him after Tim Hartman instead.

Yeah I always thought dinkleberg was a character doing well for himself but you were supposed to laugh at dad for hating. I always thought it had to do with Butch’s brother or something flaunting his hollywood money.

 

[Anonitolia]

Who remembers the Astro boy movie

assuming you mean the CGI one; I watched it when I was way younger (couldn't've been older than like 6) and it traumatized me for life
I can't for the life of me remember why, even
I think it was because Astro Boy died or something but isn't that a staple in every continuity of his?
Anyways, this topic doesn't belong in Western Animation. Astro Boy is Japanese.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Anyways, this topic doesn't belong in Western Animation. Astro Boy is Japanese

The character's a Japanese creation, but the 2009 movie was Western enough (Imagi was an American and Hong Kong collab studio), so it counts. It honestly sucks it underperformed so much that Imagi shut down, but they really should've waited until they had a few movies under their belt before releasing it.

 

[TVB]

This...this is why I made that fairly oddparents quote at random. Just trying to find some levity in all this. ...wouldn't be my first time quoting a show at random.

Btw...dinkleberg

I know who did 9/11.

fuck the 2000s, just fuck them.

Geez, you clearly have a strong autistic vendetta against the 2000s. It was also a good decade, plus it wasn't nearly as close as being woke even.

 

[Toxinophile]

I have no idea of the ratios but these are probably what he's talking about.

Netflix Kids' Series "Ridley Jones" Shows Nonbinary Character Coming Out, but Gets Cancelled - Mombian

A new episode of Netflix animated kids' show Ridley Jones centers nonbinary bison Fred, who comes out about their name and pronouns to their grandma (voiced by Cyndi Lauper). But Netflix has also just cancelled the series and not given its fifth and final season any promotion, says creator Chris...

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Blues Clues song: This looks like this was made specifically for pride month last year. Unless they're putting this into every episode from now on I feel like this simply typical queer pandering.
Baymax: Disney doesn't really count. Everybody knows their queer pandering is blatantly disingenuous. 24 seconds of a dude wearing a trans flag is not trans representation.
Ridley Jones: Okay from what I've read the bison has always been an enbie, and that this moment near the shows' finale is when she finally comes out. Nobody seemed to care about this 5 season kids show until the outrage began

I understand that people will react angry about this stuff especially when it feels so out of place, but at a certain point this reaction becomes an overreaction. I don't feel like people need to be outraged at every instance of something mite queer happening on television. Regardless of social media advertisement I feel like you can safely ignore most of these moments and move on with your day.

 

[Grumpy Pickle Rick]

So....

I thought of doing a spinoff topic, one that is specifically about animation in the 1980s and 1990s.... but....

Okay, I gotta rant. I'll except my tism ratings now.

....................

Thing is, animation topics always feel like they have a bit of a problem. To put it as honestly as possible I'm trying to create a topic I would enjoy. But the problem is....

Well I was thinking, should I include anime? I feel like I should because of Voltron, Battle of the Planets (technically 1970s but still), Robotech, Ninja the Wonder Boy etc... it feels wrong to exclude.those since old enough fags could legit have fond memories of them or an interest in their westernization history......

But you know how that's gonna go: the weebs and spergs are gonna see it as an excuse to say "hey some company just released a bluray of Galaxy Cyclone Braiger!" or "hey someone actually did a fansub of Layzner!" or endless talks about Dragonball or Fist of the North Star, maybe some asshole will try to say Jojo should be allowed because the comics began in the 1980s even though the animation didn't.... I've seen it happen.

It's at these moments I understand why Weebs have a bit of a bad rep. I don't hate anime, but sometimes I want to talk about something else, ya know? But weebs always want to insert their autistic fixation into everything, regardless of what anyone else wants. So allowing it... suddenly people trying to have an honest discussion of Bravestarr or Asterix vs Caesar get drowned out. And frankly, we have like 20 anime topics anyway.

I also wondered how much wiggle room the decades mentioned should give, since some 80s shows began in the 70s, and some show from the 1990s could have continued into the 2000s. With the latter I think I already decided "fuck no" since.... fuck the 2000s, just fuck them. But if I give too much pre-1980s wiggle room, then suddenly people take it as carte blanche to make it a Looney Tunes topic by some autistic loophole. I've seen it happen.

But even thinking about that.... well, the fact that this topic would include the 1990s bugs me too. Because it would have a similar problem. Suddenly every other post is about Courage the Cowardly Dog or Dexter's Lab, and the one lone voice who says "hey who remembers Sky Commanders?" gets drowned out.

Its almost like, what's the point. Because if its not one-franchise-only its gonna get corrupted.

It's like the problem with video games. If I were to make a Sega Genesis topic, it would be nothing but Sonic autists. SNES topics end up always being about Mario, Zelda, or Star Fox. So on.

Like.... how hard can it be to meet other people who have a similar interest?

I’m going to say this once: stop with the autistic rants.

 

[Higgs Bonbon]

Not exactly animation related, but it made me MATI enough and I don't know where else to put it.

In short, this dude overanalyzes Peanuts, then 2/3s though focuses on Peppermint Patty and Marcie insisting they're lesbians, and demands I sub to someone in a fursuit.

I wish trying to find toobers to watch wasn't a minefield.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Not exactly animation related, but it made me MATI enough and I don't know where else to put it.

In short, this dude overanalyzes Peanuts, then 2/3s though focuses on Peppermint Patty and Marcie insisting they're lesbians, and demands I sub to someone in a fursuit.
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I wish trying to find toobers to watch wasn't a minefield.

Another one. Great. Peppermint Patty was modeled after Schultz' last wife. Also

 

[Colon capital V]

Not exactly animation related, but it made me MATI enough

Dude's got a fag flag behind him as the channel icon with painted nails in his video, tf did you expect to see when you clicked this, a valid argument?

Lemme guess, he's gonna bring up stupid shit about how the show/comics has slightly rAcIaLlY iNsEnSiTiVe jokes from its time along with a dash of claims like homophobia because wynot?

 

[The Cunting Death]

Rewatching Invader Zim

As much as I hate its proto-tumblr/LiveJournal literal cult following, it's one of the rare shows that deserved every bit of acclaim it got.

Also I just finished watching Enter the Florpus for the first time. I actually prefer Gazs' new characterization in that than in the old show. I know the personality started in the comics, but I'm glad to see it happen in animation.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

then 2/3s though focuses on Peppermint Patty and Marcie insisting they're lesbians

It's basically coomer brain syndrome - "two children of the same sex can't be friends because it's unrealistic, they must want to bang each other."

And eventually those people grow up to be part of the industry and make it canon.

 

[Higgs Bonbon]

Dude's got a fag flag behind him as the channel icon with painted nails in his video, tf did you expect to see when you clicked this, a valid argument?

Lemme guess, he's gonna bring up stupid shit about how the show/comics has slightly rAcIaLlY iNsEnSiTiVe jokes from its time along with a dash of claims like homophobia because wynot?

It was on autoplay nigga I didn't click it

And no, more that it has themes of nihilism and depression and pushed the "they're in purgatory" angle, only to follow up with "I was only pretending to be retarded."

 

[skykiii]

Geez, you clearly have a strong autistic vendetta against the 2000s. It was also a good decade, plus it wasn't nearly as close as being woke even.

I had a response typed, but by the end it felt more appropriate for the "Unpopular Opinions About Western Animation" topic so I'm taking it there.

I’m going to say this once: stop with the autistic rants.

Dude if I was in a state of mind where I was gonna be disturbed by a downvote or anything else you could possibly do, I wouldn't be making those autistic rants at all.

 

[Pokemon Conquistador]

It's basically coomer brain syndrome - "two children of the same sex can't be friends because it's unrealistic, they must want to bang each other."

And eventually those people grow up to be part of the industry and make it canon.

For some reason, strong female characters with subordinates are always considered lesbians. Even though that has all kinds of unethical connotations. I guess Coomers want to see themselves in the subordinate role?

 

[Doctor of Autism]

For some reason, strong female characters with subordinates are always considered lesbians. Even though that has all kinds of unethical connotations. I guess Coomers want to see themselves in the subordinate role?

It's usually shipper brainrot when they see two characters of the same gender together, its really retarded.

 

[Higgs Bonbon]

It's usually shipper brainrot when they see two characters of the same gender together, its really retarded.

Shippers are exceedingly good at spreading their cancer and I'd happily pin it as the number one red flag for a fandom.

 

[Coolio55]

Blues Clues song: This looks like this was made specifically for pride month last year. Unless they're putting this into every episode from now on I feel like this simply typical queer pandering.
Baymax: Disney doesn't really count. Everybody knows their queer pandering is blatantly disingenuous. 24 seconds of a dude wearing a trans flag is not trans representation.
Ridley Jones: Okay from what I've read the bison has always been an enbie, and that this moment near the shows' finale is when she finally comes out. Nobody seemed to care about this 5 season kids show until the outrage began

I understand that people will react angry about this stuff especially when it feels so out of place, but at a certain point this reaction becomes an overreaction. I don't feel like people need to be outraged at every instance of something mite queer happening on television. Regardless of social media advertisement I feel like you can safely ignore most of these moments and move on with your day.

Just out of interest, what ratio would you consider it acceptable for people to be weirded out?
Let's imagine it was some other current issue. How many times would a cartoon need to show the Gaza or Israli flag or have episodes about using and servicing firearms before you're allowed to vocally express "That's a bit wierd, innit?"