Hollywood writers vote on strike: ‘At stake is the viability of TV as a career’


Hollywood writers vote on strike: ‘At stake is the viability of TV as a career’​

WGA union argues companies have ‘leveraged the streaming transition to underpay writers’

Michael Sainato
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Sat 15 Apr 2023 01.00 EDT


Hollywood writers have until Monday to authorize their union to call a strike amid contentious contract negotiations with major studios.
The authorization, based on a vote by guild members, would grant the leadership of the Writers Guild of America (WGA) the ability to call a strike if it can’t reach a contract with Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP) by 1 May.

“Writers are not keeping up,” the WGA argues in a 2023 report. “The companies have leveraged the streaming transition to underpay writers, creating more precarious, lower-paid models for writers’ work.”
In the report, the WGA, which has more than 11,000 members, argues the shift in the entertainment industry to streaming services has resulted in cuts to pay for writers, despite an increase in investments in content and consistent profitability.

“What’s at stake is the viability of television as a career,” said Brittani Nichols, a writer on Abbott Elementary and WGA member. “Right now a lot of people are struggling to string together quality jobs that can allow them to exist in a city like Los Angeles.”
Nichols compared the demands of members to those of other workers facing increasing pressures of economic inequality and rising costs of living.
“It’s not that the studios can’t afford these things. It’s, in my opinion, that they don’t care about what’s right or fair and they want to extract as much value from us for the least amount of money as possible, and that’s something we’re standing up to.”
The AMPTP represents entertainment media corporations that include Amazon, Apple, CBS, Disney, NBCUniversal, Netflix, Paramount Global, Sony and Warner Bros Discovery.
Since 2013-2014, the proportion of writers working at minimum pay levels has increased from 33% of all TV series writers to 49% in 2021-2022, with recorded increases in all writer positions, according to the report. Over the last decade, median writer pay has declined by 4%, or 23% when adjusted for inflation.
The WGA is calling for increased compensation and residuals from features, ending the practice of mini-rooms (smaller writing rooms where a showrunner and a limited group of writers develop scripts), and increases in contributions to pension and health funds for workers.
In a message to members, the WGA stated that the AMPTP had pushed for “rollbacks designed to offset any gains” in contract negotiations. “In short, the studios have shown no sign that they intend to address the problems our members are determined to fix.”
“The way that writers’ rooms work now, the way that we’re being paid, the way that we’re dealing with cuts in episode orders, all of that has slowly eroded our ability to make a living doing this,” said Susan Hurwitz Arneson, a writer in the industry for 15 years who has worked on shows such as AMC’s Preacher and the forthcoming John Wick prequel television series The Continental. “For a showrunner, it’s excruciating and impossible. For younger writers coming up, they’re never getting the mentoring and teaching to be showrunners because they are never allowed to be on set.”
Mini-rooms were originally meant to be supplementary support for a project but have been exploited as a loophole to pay minimum compensation to writers and avoid paying producer or showrunner fees for additional production duties, Hurwitz Arneson argued. She voted “yes” on the strike authorization, she said, in an effort to oppose trends she says are deteriorating pay and working conditions for writers.
“This is about people that create, from nothing, a product that everybody across the world enjoys, a product that makes billions of dollars for giant corporations. What we’re asking for is less than 2% of the dollar of what these companies are making, in order for us to benefit from our hard work and be paid fairly for it,” said Hurwitz Arneson. “We should be paid for the talent, hard work, the heart, the sweat, the tears and for the generation of worlds and products that employ thousands of people in this industry.”
The union has also taken aim at arguments by the studios of financial woes in the industry, as several entertainment media corporations have conducted layoffs in the past year; Disney announced cuts of 7,000 jobs that began this year, Netflix cut 450 jobs in 2022, citing decreases in subscription revenue, and about 120 workers were laid off at Showtime this year after a merger with Paramount.
Operating profits at the largest entertainment media companies in 2021 were about $28bn, a decrease from pre-pandemic profit levels, but the WGA cited continuing investments in streaming services, mergers and restructurings, and spending billions on stock buybacks.
CEOs of the largest entertainment media corporations receive exorbitant salaries. The Warner Discovery CEO, David Zaslav, received $39.3m in total compensation in 2022. The Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos received $40m, his co-CEO Reed Hastingsreceived $34m, and the Paramount Global CEO, Bob Bakish, received $32m.
The last time Hollywood writers went on strike was in November 2007, an action that lasted 100 days and halted production of major TV shows. The strike of 12,000 writers largely focused on disagreements with the AMPTP over emerging digital media platforms and streaming residuals. The Directors Guild of America and Screen Actors Guild will begin their new union contract negotiations this year with AMPTP.
The Actors’ Equity national council, which represents more than 51,000 professional theater workers, authorized a strike as new union contract negotiations with the Broadway League, the trade association for the Broadway industry, continue, with 90% signing a strike pledge if an agreement isn’t reached.
It is hard to predict which shows would be affected by a WGA strike, but during the 2007-2008 strike, top programs including Breaking Bad and Prison Break went on hiatus or had shortened seasons.

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Any chink in the armor of Hollywood is a good thing. I hope all the writers strike and I also hope it bites them in the ass.
Last time these guys strike it backfired and taught hollywood talented writers do not matter.
I wonder if this one will have the same effect.
This is true. It spawned reality tv.
 
Reality TV was already big before the 08 writers strike
It was around, but it wasn’t big. They use the word “exploded” to describe reality TV in 2008 and it being directly related to the writer’s strike in this article.

 
The WGA's strike website has a PDF summarizing what exactly the individual issues are:

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I'm actually surprised that there's no woke/"diversity" demands in this. That's something I'm used to seeing in the demands of small journalist unions that have popped up in recent years.

People here are making AI jokes, but that's apparently something that the WGA is actually feels threatened by and are trying to ban entirely here. I think it's a major disservice that the OP article doesn't even mention this as it's a new big deal that goes beyond arguments over pay, deciding on the very future of entertainment media production. Looking on reddit, it seems to me that many don't even recognize this element and are just saying, "pay writers, lol".

Also, that "preserving the writers' room" portion... That seems bonkers to require a production to take on writers just for the sake of it. This apparently has to do with the WGA wanting to eliminate "minirooms".
 
It was around, but it wasn’t big. They use the word “exploded” to describe reality TV in 2008 and it being directly related to the writer’s strike in this article.

Interesting question do you think this will happen again and if it does what will be the consequences for scripted content?
 
People here are making AI jokes, but that's apparently something that the WGA is actually feels threatened by and are trying to ban entirely here.
They're threatened by it because they're being forced to confront with the reality they have no creative bone in their body and they're still living in denial. We're at the point where people are desperately looking towards alternatives to potentially aid in some creativity, or like in the case of AI art, for some kind of pleasant image to look at (even if it's just boobs) all because modern "artists" suck due to the concept of beauty being vilified these last several years.

This is something that is easily rectified, but this generation is too damn stubborn/set in their ways. This strike is going to bring in newer people to replace the strikers like before, but I doubt much will change in quality. May just end up getting worse for all I know, I just believe we have to put up with more of this shit for another 20 years. We have older media to placate us for the time being, but for how much longer?
 
Any of us could write much better movies and shows than these fuckers. Look at the terrible state of movies nowadays. Trailers are released and they are massively voted down an mocked into flopping. Whose fault is this? Writers, of course. And they still expect to be treated with any respect?

Like I said in the Star Trek thread, Picard Season 3 proves that writers know what people want and they can give us that. They just won't do it because they don't fucking want to do it. I support people fighting to keep their jobs and all that, but they are offering us terrible products and then insult us when we don't like them. Fuck off.
 
The WGA's strike website has a PDF summarizing what exactly the individual issues are:

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I'm actually surprised that there's no woke/"diversity" demands in this. That's something I'm used to seeing in the demands of small journalist unions that have popped up in recent years.

People here are making AI jokes, but that's apparently something that the WGA is actually feels threatened by and are trying to ban entirely here. I think it's a major disservice that the OP article doesn't even mention this as it's a new big deal that goes beyond arguments over pay, deciding on the very future of entertainment media production. Looking on reddit, it seems to me that many don't even recognize this element and are just saying, "pay writers, lol".

Also, that "preserving the writers' room" portion... That seems bonkers to require a production to take on writers just for the sake of it. This apparently has to do with the WGA wanting to eliminate "minirooms".
It's amazing how nobody gives a shit about the other demands since "AI took our Jerbs" is the most interesting demand. It's outright them admitting AI does their job just as good as they does, except it doesn't cost anything and has more imagination and internal consistency than they does, demanding that old scripts won't be used to train AI is just as unenforceable.

For a group being paid to write, they sure suck at it. And everything bad coming to them is well deserved.

Also extremely ironic considering nearly every scifi writer does a "evil white male hating AI because they are hateful", yet they are the first in line to ban AI.
 
The biggest problem with writers is that they are fresh out of college without any real life experiences. All they do is what they grew up watching but worse. Any show that's mildly militaristic suffers more since they write the characters are children and have straight up insubordination
 
i see people in here thinking ai can just replace them but like the ai cant really write for shit a majority of the time. it will get formulaic really quick even if you were to feed a model thousands and thousands of scripts from showsand movies considered good
Yep. People see something like ChatGPT come up with a precis and think that's all it takes. Doesn't take much of a proper script with dialogue and such to see how quickly it falls off. The weirdness can be entertaining, but it's definitely not coherent.

If you watch a TV show, you're watching TV, whether you pirate it, watch it online, whatever. And yes, vast amounts of it are terrible. A lot of creative types get hired again and again and only pump out shit. But it's not just them - it's the companies that hire them, the companies they're striking against.

It's like, not everyone should suffer just because Disney hired people like Chuck Wendig to write Star Wars. The people who do Andor shouldn't get fucked over just because some suits have decided oversaturating the market with mediocre content is the best thing for the brand. Or insert whatever show you do like vs. 99 shows you don't for the analogy.

Basically, shit people make shit TV, but shit corporations hire the shit people who make shit TV and then don't even pay them properly for the shit they make all the money off of. In any battle vs. corporations I need a far better reason to side with the corporations than 'but they're hacks'. In this case, they greenlit and air the shows hacks make, make sure to give more opportunities to DEI hacks for their ESG scores and woke agenda, and are looking to make those shows even more likely to be terrible in ways that don't dent their profit line.

It might not be by much, but when it's creatives against something like Disney, I know which one is more likely, even marginally, to produce better content. Just compare Pixar before it was bought up by Disney and after, especially when they fired John Lasseter for suspiciously weak sexual harassment allegations. I'm defending writers because there's some shows I like, but it's not even necessary to defend them considering who they're up against.
 
it's about keeping writers rooms from shrinking.
Bingo. Too many chefs in the kitchen is part of the reason why modern writing is so garbage. If this demand goes through it will actually make writing worse.

I've seen fanfiction writen by single people that had more effort put into it than what these hacks shit out in groups of 10.
 
That being said, I'd rather watch "Bosch" than "Murder, She Wrote" or "Yellowstone" than Bonanza.
You leave the angel of death Jessica Fletcher out of this. (Seriously though it's fun to look at it with the lens that she is murdering everyone.)
Ironically more and more older shows are now available to stream.
 
In any battle vs. corporations I need a far better reason to side with the corporations than 'but they're hacks'.
Not siding with the writers doesn't mean you have to side with the corporations, as far The writters have spent the better part of a decade pissing on us, telling us its rain, then when we don't buy it, going "There's nothing wrong with drinking piss."

I'm inclined to side against corporations by default but this a case where the people fighting against the corporations despise me more than I despise corrporations. So as far as I'm concerned everyone involved in this can go fuck themselves.
I support people fighting to keep their jobs and all that, but they are offering us terrible products and then insult us when we don't like them.
This is the gist of it. 99% of the work I've seen from modern writers makes me think they deserve a reduction in benefits and pay, not an increase.
 
It was around, but it wasn’t big.
It was as big - Survivor's first season was an incredible success, and that was 2000 I believe - but it wasn't as common. In 2008 they filled the gaps with game shows, non-competitive reality shows and the like, though so it's when it became endemic, and was the start of a lot of channels moving from their original purpose into purely reality show drivel.

Some reality shows literally do have script writers, though they never admit to it, but all reality shows do have people who have to sort through all the footage to find narratives, tell storylines, establish the people and the stakes - people to make dozens of hours of raw footage coherent. But it's not the same as writing. It's more like hardcore editing, but it falls between the gaps so they don't get a union and therefore are far cheaper to hire, just as reality shows in general are far cheaper to make.

Not siding with the writers doesn't mean you have to side with the corporations, as far The writters have spent the better part of a decade pissing on us, telling us its rain, then when we don't buy it, going "There's nothing wrong with drinking piss."

I'm inclined to side against corporations by default but this a case where the people fighting against the corporations despise me more than I despise corrporations. So as far as I'm concerned everyone involved in this can go fuck themselves.
But do they despise you more than the corporations do? Because those corporations are also telling you to drink piss. They just use plausible deniability if you don't want to drink piss to blame it all on the creatives ... and then try and sell you piss again with their next product, and the next. With the writers, not all of them hate you, and you can avoid the products from those that do. That's much harder to do with the corporations.

My big problem with a lot of the responses in this thread is that they presume these decisions are all being made from the bottom up, not from the top down. As @Alter Ego pointed out, in the PDF there's no demands for wokeness or diversity. I don't agree with the requirement writer's rooms have to be a certain size, but that's also the closest thing you have to quotas in the whole list. People also seem to believe that if the writers all go out of work the crap shows will stop - but they're not going to stop, they're just going to get worse. And yes, they can get worse, a whole lot worse. Never underestimate the ability for something bad to drop even more in quality.

Sure, there's a bunch of woke writers and the like producing these things, but not all writers are woke. And not even woke writers are worse than, say, a ChatGPT with all the rails on where it's not allowed to say anything problematic but it still produces the scripts. And while we're not quite at the level where a bot can write a convincing script, it's notable how many industries, creative or not, are looking into that sort of automation to replace human workers because it's cheaper enough to cover the dip in quality.

Writing is an undervalued talent, especially for onscreen works where a lot of failures can be covered with SFX, talented/charismatic actors and strong visuals. I think of authors as aggressively mediocre-to-bad as people like Pat Tomlinson and Chuck Wendig, Kate Leth or Maggs Visaggio, who either have or have had publishing deals with actual companies, and the reminder that as bad as they are, there are millions of wannabe authors out there who are even worse than that. People are saying they've read better fanfics - sure, but I'm betting you've also read worse. I'm not defending individual writers or individual shows - the late night people can all go fuck themselves as far as I'm concerned, for example, and that's hundreds of people right there who deserve to be screwed over. But it's not just them, and it's not that there will suddenly only be repeats on the airwaves. Again, this is not as bad as things can get with entertainment. Screwing over all writers cannot make entertainment better, but it can certainly make it worse.
 
So, I'll sperg a bit about a screenwriting class I was in a very long time ago.

The tutor came in and ran an exercise with the entire class - maybe 30 people roughly. He announced that he'd come in with a fully-formed story in his head, something he'd already written. Our job was to guess what the story was - but we were only able to ask yes or no questions.

I forget how long the whole thing took, maybe 30 minutes, with people just shouting random questions to start. Is it set in the current day? Is it set in the real world? Is it about pirates?

I honestly forget what the actual story was, but I'm almost positive it was about pirates.

In any case, we kept asking question after question until we finally had the whole story nailed down - and the entire class essentially leaned back, satisfied that we had it. Which was the point the tutor revealed he didn't have any story in mind at all - he'd been making the whole thing up as he went along, answering yes or no depending on the number of syllables in our questions. Even numbers got a yes, odd numbers got a no.

The ultimate point though was that he'd given us no indication we'd finally cracked the made-up story. 30 people, at the exact same time, all collectively decided we now had enough information to constitute a story.

This is going to be the interesting bit for AI. Everything I've seen it spit out so far seems to lack the in-built evolutionary understanding of story that humans have. It's great at fleshing out a premise, or writing a scene in the style of another thing, but I've yet to see it actually understand what makes a story. Every AI I've seen so far, whenever it's asked to write a story, seems to just abandon plot threads with very little concern. It introduces concepts and does nothing with them. It doesn't seem to have any clue about how you actually end a story.

I'm not saying it'll never get there, but it's an interesting and more complex hurdle to jump than just writing prose.
 
People also seem to believe that if the writers all go out of work the crap shows will stop - but they're not going to stop, they're just going to get worse.
I don't think the shows will get better, but I genuinely think we've already hit rock bottom. On a scale of 1 to 10, who cares of its 1 or 0.1? Its all dogshit and none of it is worth watching anyway.

As @Alter Ego pointed out, in the PDF there's no demands for wokeness or diversity.

Sure, there's a bunch of woke writers and the like producing these things, but not all writers are woke.

"Wokeness" is a huge factor as to why shows are dogshit nowadays but it is also not the only factor and also not the majority factor. (Definitely a Plurality though and bad writing is downstream from wokeness).

A lot of the writers have genuine contempt for stuff they work on, how many examples have we had of writers openly admiting they hate the source material of stuff they work on?

And ontop of that a lot of writers are genuinely incompetent at their jobs, they are incapable and unwilling of worldbuilding, don't know how to make flawed characters, and barely comprehend the concept of an arc and the three act structure. They are narrowminded and most of them barely comprehend the world in non "american liberal coastal city" terms.

Most modern movies are full of plotholes and inconsistencies because the writers can't be bothered patching them and settle on "Eh this will make the manchildren clap anyway why care."

They are spiteful privilidged coddled shits with no little to no love or respect for their craft or even the things that they write about.

And ontop of that, just because they don't outright mention diversity/inclusion in the PDF doesn't mean that they are based™©©™© and redpilled©™™©™©©.

We know that hollywood is drenched in that shit, there's a bigger chance they thought it was redundant than an intentional omission, I have 0 goodwill toward them, especially to the point where I'd be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

And why would I? Why have modern writers produced that would earn them goodwill? Again like I said earlier, every other day we get a new story about writers who ruined something talking about how much they hate the fans and how much they hate the source material while laughing about it.

These people destroyed escapism, laughed as they were doing it, pissed in our faces for rejecting it, and are now demanding a tip ontop of it. Nah fuck 'em, they can burn for all I care.
 
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