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Not Just Bikes / r/fuckcars / Urbanists / New Urbanism / Car-Free / Anti-Car - People and grifters who hate personal transport, freedom, cars, roads, suburbs, and are obsessed with city planning and urban design
Finally! They acknowledge that cigarette smoke exists! Only for cities they hate though.
When I went to New York City and was walking around, the air pollution from cars was unnoticeable, but the air pollution from people was excruciating. There's "no smoking" signs all over the city but people blatantly ignore that and nobody cares. I've never seen urbanists acknowledge how much cigarettes are smoked in Manhattan, let alone how much worse it is than cars.
Then again, they wouldn't acknowledge all the other sorts of unpleasant behavior that I saw on my walk, like people starting shit with others and almost getting into a fight for no reason, and panhandling. Oh well.
in their defense, it's a really shitty version of a rapid transport system and it still has the same issue musk wanted to get rid of when planning it, which is traffic inside the tunnels. plus in an emergency you're screwed. honestly it wouldve been just cheaper and easier to do subways or something instead
in their defense, it's a really shitty version of a rapid transport system and it still has the same issue musk wanted to get rid of when planning it, which is traffic inside the tunnels. plus in an emergency you're screwed. honestly it wouldve been just cheaper and easier to do subways or something instead
It’s pretty much identical to a bus rapid transit system except for being underground. A lot of them are single lanes with barriers on either side and have similar problems with bypassing broken down/delayed vehicles. Streetcars/trams, which urbanists also love, are frequently stopped by small obstructions on the tracks that a car or normal bus would drive around.
The only other difference is that Musk runs large numbers of “minibuses” as opposed to a small number of large buses, but if that turns out to be an issue, it can be easily fixed by swapping to a larger vehicle.
If Musk had chosen to run electric buses instead of electric cars through the tunnels, /r/fuckcars would be worshipping him.
Considering how one of the copes is the argument that "cars are loud", motorcycle drivers are incredibly loud. Even if you're used to roadway white noise, nothing like hearing a loud BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP sound as one zooms down the highway going at least 30 mph more than the existing traffic.
If you cagers think that shit is loud wait till you are on one. I genuinely don't understand how the squids do it because even with earplugs in it makes my ears bleed. Also, contrary to popular belief, "loud pipes" do not in fact save any lives and just give motorcyclists a bad name.
As for going over the speed limit, meh. I do at least 5mph over the rest of traffic because it gives me the most control out of any situation. Crashing on a bike is way more serious than in a car so you want to give yourself the best possible chance and if avoiding other traffic by going faster than them helps to minimize your risk you fucking do it. Naturally, squidding is a bad idea and a great way to expedite your journey to the afterlife and 30mph over traffic is excessive.
(For our cagies and busriders reading this, squid stands for "stupidly quick, ungeared, and imminently dead". They're the people on large sport bikes doing 100+ on interstates in shorts and a tshirt weaving through traffic)
I wonder why someone would actively ignore all the basis of urbanism and just skip to the fake solution that "Cars are the root of the problem," while, if anything, those are both a symptom and a solution, depending by the situation. But, of course, they cannot talk nuances, only being extremists. Dumb tools.
I remember reading some of these talking about how Uber was their ally because they too support anticar/car free movements, without realizing that of course Uber would support such movement, considering they're just taxis, and it would completely negate all competition, until they too get regulated or banned.
What's also fun is that "electric cars" aren't exactly the future either.
And what really, really pissed me off is how they have to export this bullshit ideology and force it down other countries throat. Maybe the "car-centric" thing is an issue in the US, good for you. But it's not so much in Spain, France, Holland, Indonesia and other countries, so why are you also brigading for France to be even more eco-friendly when those countries already did more than enough?
Besides, this whole new eco-friendly shit is just that: Shit.
Because it's more dangerous to let ivy and brushwoods grow out of control than it is to cut them and keep the rivers clean. But the neo-ecologists cannot understand basic concepts to maintain their own garden plants alive, let alone how to not screw up a city. Any references to an ecologist fuck-up that recently happened to a nice place I know is coincidental
They should know what happens when you give government too much control, with the whole social credit system thing in China, where if it happens to be deemed too low by some arbitrary measure, you wouldn't be even able to book a train. Sounds like a great system which wouldn't backfire at all.
This can be said of all social medias and some forums, although rarer as well. Internet as a whole has become a collection of echo-chambers, you got all kinds of extremisms, from people absolutely hating something to people morbidly fond of that. I really hate how it has come to, and what bothers me the most if how common hiveminds are these days.
This might be my own personal schizo theory but I think the whole thing is just a psyop from the powers that be to eliminate people being able to independently travel without depending on the state. They keep shifting the goal posts of what they're actually advocating for because sometimes they feign it like it's an environment concern when electric/hydrogen vehicles logically should solve that. However they're against all cars in general including electric ones. So logically everything seems to just point to them wanting people to be dependent on the state to get around and removing autonomous travel and own nothing.
A brave soul asked on /r/notjustbikes if Urban Growth Boundaries contribute to high housing prices:
Timestamp from the OP is 4:32
Literally the exact opposite of reality. Seattle's government historically upzoned neighborhoods gradually (while ignoring complaints from local residents) in order to maximize the density built and Washington just banned single-family zoning statewide(archive). They have had an urban growth boundary since 1990(archive) and it is the number one reason why they have expensive housing: Source
Everything outside of the red line is illegal to build on.
Australian cities also have greenbelts and high housing prices, but don't you dare say that they're related:
Kiwi (not the good kind) acknowledges that New Zealand has urban growth boundaries but denies that it has anything to do with their high housing prices:
Canadian denies that it's an issue in Canada: Link in comment(archive)
Major cities like Vancouver and Toronto have Urban Growth Boundaries and permissive zoning within the boundaries, yet they still have incredibly expensive housing.
Vancouver hasn't had single-family zoning for decades(archive), yet that doesn't stop urbanists from blaming it for the housing crisis:
It’s notable that the City of Vancouver begin eliminating ‘single-family’ zoning in the 1980’s and completed the job in about 2003 when a house with a rental (not just Family) suite was permitted in all RS zones. Later that decade a third dwelling was permitted with the addition of laneway houses. More recently with the last Vision Council, RS got amended again to permit even more dwellings on a RS zoned site.
Maybe sprawling is necessary to house the million immigrants the Canadian government imports every year?
Noticing a pattern here? Nearly every expensive city in the first world has one thing in common: Urban Growth Boundaries. Meanwhile metro areas like Houston have sprawled, built roads, and have much more affordable housing despite growing far more than metro areas like Seattle which focused on increasing density, expanding public transit, and building bike lanes.
Urbanists hate "sprawl" so much that they'd rather never afford a place of their own:
You know, I know /r/fuckcars conveniently ignored the whole Daniel Penny situation because there's no way around the "public transit is unsafe" scenario but I imagine they can never again say "transit riders are generally decent people", which I'm pretty sure they have used something akin to that argument (as opposed to those "selfish cagers").
Saying that means that they'd imply that Daniel Penny did the right thing (which for what it's worth, he did), but because the subreddit is too tied in with the Left, they can't actually say that.
I know that since this thread was made /r/fuckcars and similar subreddits chased out a lot of the moderates, but has there is evidence of deleted posts regarding that?
I know that since this thread was made /r/fuckcars and similar subreddits chased out a lot of the moderates, but has there is evidence of deleted posts regarding that?
Well "Remove Urban Growth Boundaries" is a carbrained solution to housing, akin to carbrains' favorite "solution" to traffic, "just one more lane bro"; just that in this case it's "one more block bro". Obviously the the only thing removing Urban Growth Boundaries would do is allow the supply of houses to increase, and due to induced demand that just means the number of people in houses increase, with no difference in prices. The solution to housing is therefore to promote alternatives to housing like homelessness and living in yo mama's basement.
Noticing a pattern here? Nearly every expensive city in the first world has one thing in common: Urban Growth Boundaries. Meanwhile metro areas like Houston have sprawled, built roads, and have much more affordable housing despite growing far more than metro areas like Seattle which focused on increasing density, expanding public transit, and building bike lanes.
Yeah but Houston bad and carbrained because Jason Slaughter said so and he made a video shitting on it.
Jokes aside, it hurts my brain to figure out why urbanists deny that urban growth boundaries obviously prevent building shit, and scramble to place the blame on something else. Like, that's the entire point of them, they don't do anything else. Isn't it arguable they contribute to the so-called "missing middle problem" where there's a single-family households built right next to skyscrapers and there's nothing in between those extremes?
I'm pretty happy with the UGB in Oregon compared to someplace like Texas.
It's designed to have 20 years of growth, which where I am is about 2 houses.
I think in the Portland Metro though the UGB is not what primarily drives up prices. It's all the other stupid shit the city does to drive away development. System Development Charges up the wazoo, Low Income Housing requirements for larger developments, Planning departments that take months-years to approve anything, even simple crap, all the new rental laws that will eventually apply. Portland(and Oregon) now requires cities to allow second units on most single family properties. Most people who own their home and looked at what it would cost to add a unit(ADU) find there's no way in hell it would make sense financially. Eventually developers give up and take their new developments somewhere more friendly, like Texas.
You know, I know /r/fuckcars conveniently ignored the whole Daniel Penny situation because there's no way around the "public transit is unsafe" scenario but I imagine they can never again say "transit riders are generally decent people", which I'm pretty sure they have used something akin to that argument (as opposed to those "selfish cagers"). Saying that means that they'd imply that Daniel Penny did the right thing (which for what it's worth, he did), but because the subreddit is too tied in with the Left, they can't actually say that. I know that since this thread was made /r/fuckcars and similar subreddits chased out a lot of the moderates, but has there is evidence of deleted posts regarding that?
When you think about it from a transit-oriented bleeding heart lefty perspective, it's a failure on two fronts. I've heard Twitter wonks try to claim the jogger of the hour was begging for food and water(between the death threats natch) and that someone should have just given him food and water. So not only was a vibrant street performing man of color strangled to death by a white supremacist, said strangling could have been avoided if the people on the subway weren't ignoring the situation as best they could. If you believe the lefty perspective of course.
Basically, they're in a double-bind. They have to downplay the jogger's poor behavior because we live in a post-Floyd world, but they would also have to try to convince you that this behavior is anomalous and should not be expected. If this is a totally normal mental health episode that you should just tolerate and be empathetic towards, you'd be a fool to go near public transit again if you had any other choice. If this behavior is out of the ordinary, them Daniel Penny may have had justification for the usage of force and that opens up cans of worms they want staying closed up good.
I'm pretty happy with the UGB in Oregon compared to someplace like Texas.
It's designed to have 20 years of growth, which where I am is about 2 houses.
I think in the Portland Metro though the UGB is not what primarily drives up prices. It's all the other stupid shit the city does to drive away development. System Development Charges up the wazoo, Low Income Housing requirements for larger developments, Planning departments that take months-years to approve anything, even simple crap, all the new rental laws that will eventually apply. Portland(and Oregon) now requires cities to allow second units on most single family properties. Most people who own their home and looked at what it would cost to add a unit(ADU) find there's no way in hell it would make sense financially. Eventually developers give up and take their new developments somewhere more friendly, like Texas.
When you think about it from a transit-oriented bleeding heart lefty perspective, it's a failure on two fronts. I've heard Twitter wonks try to claim the jogger of the hour was begging for food and water(between the death threats natch) and that someone should have just given him food and water. So not only was a vibrant street performing man of color strangled to death by a white supremacist, said strangling could have been avoided if the people on the subway weren't ignoring the situation as best they could. If you believe the lefty perspective of course.
Basically, they're in a double-bind. They have to downplay the jogger's poor behavior because we live in a post-Floyd world, but they would also have to try to convince you that this behavior is anomalous and should not be expected. If this is a totally normal mental health episode that you should just tolerate and be empathetic towards, you'd be a fool to go near public transit again if you had any other choice. If this behavior is out of the ordinary, them Daniel Penny may have had justification for the usage of force and that opens up cans of worms they want staying closed up good.
The situation could have been avoided by the police being allowed to do their jobs and lock him up years ago. He was a known threat, something was bound to happen. That's why I'm glad to have a car, I'm in my own contained space that can accelerate away from danger (,something they'll never admit).
Finally! They acknowledge that cigarette smoke exists! Only for cities they hate though.
When I went to New York City and was walking around, the air pollution from cars was unnoticeable, but the air pollution from people was excruciating. There's "no smoking" signs all over the city but people blatantly ignore that and nobody cares. I've never seen urbanists acknowledge how much cigarettes are smoked in Manhattan, let alone how much worse it is than cars.
Then again, they wouldn't acknowledge all the other sorts of unpleasant behavior that I saw on my walk, like people starting shit with others and almost getting into a fight for no reason, and panhandling. Oh well.
Smoking is the nasty part of cities they never tell you about. Even if you don't smoke, because of the terrible air quality, you end up paying for it in the form of coughing and possibly cancer
You know, I know /r/fuckcars conveniently ignored the whole Daniel Penny situation because there's no way around the "public transit is unsafe" scenario but I imagine they can never again say "transit riders are generally decent people", which I'm pretty sure they have used something akin to that argument (as opposed to those "selfish cagers").
Saying that means that they'd imply that Daniel Penny did the right thing (which for what it's worth, he did), but because the subreddit is too tied in with the Left, they can't actually say that.
I know that since this thread was made /r/fuckcars and similar subreddits chased out a lot of the moderates, but has there is evidence of deleted posts regarding that?
Public transport is unsafe if its filled with niggers. Everyone using a car for everyday use is not going to work in a modern city. A good metro system is faster and more relaxing. But you need a high trust society and the metro has to actually be good and affordable.
I am now convinced that this whole movement is literally a Ponzi scheme to prop up urban real estate prices post-COVID and post-defund the police.
Living in a metropolitan area where everything is shipped to you from halfway across the globe does not absolve you of the sins of consumption. Thousands of workers and farmers will exhaust themselves to an early grave to support you, and you think you have a right to this lifestyle.
You don’t. You were born lucky. And if you still feel the crippling guilt of your Western existence, then maybe learn to give back globally instead of worrying about where you live and how you get to work.
It all makes sense when you realize they are communists who want to enforce a Utopia onto people using Urban Planning as the excuse and not people who have a issue with urban planning as it is atm and wanting solutions that are less dependent on cars.
Scratch a r/fuckcars user and a communist bleeds. It's that simple.
I'm not even bothering trying to insert any fucking shit because run this website on TOR is such a fucking mess and holy fuck I hate you nigger faggot gross troons for ruining the only website where I can point and laugh at retards with fellow retards. Assholes. Anyways cause this in the latest Historia Civilis video, don't care if I am ninja'd fuck off I've been trying to connect to this thread for the past 15 minutes and don't even know if this post will actuall fucking send.
I hope this is just a retarded joke and not an actual sign HC believes in the walkable cities bullshit. Yeah, not shit a city 2000 years ago is fucking walkable, Alexandria probably had a population of 100k people tops and everyone fucking walked or rode camels and shit. I'm sick of all these dumb fuck niggers who complain about cities in Burgerland while worshipping cities that have been around for literal centuries before the invention of the earliest thing that can pass for an automobile. We get it faggots, those cities you can walk around in because they were all made before people could conceive motor vehicles. How many of them are still actually walkable though and not just continue to develop with being forced to cater to you autists in mind though?
