Unpopular views about music

[AnOminous]

That's fair, The Hollies are better anyways.

Holy shit, I never noticed that before. My first thought was "they should have sued that bastard for plagiarism." And a Google search showed they did and Radiohead settled.

And you're right, it's better too.

 

[Jones McCann]

Holy shit, I never noticed that before. My first thought was "they should have sued that bastard for plagiarism." And a Google search showed they did and Radiohead settled.

And you're right, it's better too.

Lana Del Ray 'Get Free' is another one. I think Radiohead were sued by The Hollies, but really it's only the chord progression that makes them similiar. There's another progression that almost every modern pop song uses, I think it's I V VI IV, once you hear it you'll notice it everywhere.

 

[TheGoodNamesHaveBeenTaken]

I will get hate over this but I just don't get Elvis Costello.
I know George Jones was a fan, I know he worked with Roy Orbison.
I just do not enjoy listening to the man.
I get not everyone has to be an opera singer, I am a Bob Dylan fan for crying out loud, but I just don't see how this man ever had a career.

I suspect it involved signing a contract he will regret once he dies.

 

[AnOminous]

I will get hate over this but I just don't get Elvis Costello.

It's okay to be gay, just cope with the fact that you're wrong.

Lana Del Ray 'Get Free' is another one. I think Radiohead were sued by The Hollies, but really it's only the chord progression that makes them similiar. There's another progression that almost every modern pop song uses, I think it's I V VI IV, once you hear it you'll notice it everywhere.

I really think copyright law is fucked in not allowing you to use common tropes in songs without some cocksucker coming along and claiming he somehow owns the idea of a similar bridge or whatever bullshit. Jihad on this shit.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Jazz, swing, big band, and related genres are basically America's classical music, moreso than actual classical music made by Americans is.

 

[umami's milk]

I LOVE KOKOMO BY BEACH BOYS

 

[AnOminous]

I LOVE KOKOMO BY BEACH BOYS

I think most of the hate for it isn't even because it's that bad a song but because Mike Love is such a phenomenal, colossal faggot.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Even Scott Weiland of STP who were typically seen as the poser runts of the Genre had more charisma and talent.

STP I thought wound up turning out pretty good. Plus I have a coomer reason why to like them: in my experience, girls who are STP fans were always the most fun. STP felt like the only grunge band that didn’t even bother pretending to pretend to be feminists. Alice In Chains didn’t bother either but all they cared about was heroin. But yeah, Pearl Jam is trash. I was given their greatest hits a while back for free and I still felt ripped off.

Another take I have is that Led Zeppelin likely did backmask satanic messages into Stairway to Heaven. Jimmy Page was really big into the occult (and fourteen year olds) at the time and had a pretty good handle on audio effects. I only bring it up because it showed up on my JewTube recommendations a couple days ago. Half the comments on those videos were “yeah it sounds like it…idk” and the other half are firebreathing screeches from boomers about how there is no way Led Zeppelin could ever do such a thing! Both Page and Plant deny it but Page says he’s never going to share any secrets about the band and Plant avoids discussing Led Zeppelin as much as possible and I don’t blame him.

 

[AnOminous]

STP I thought wound up turning out pretty good. Plus I have a coomer reason why to like them: in my experience, girls who are STP fans were always the most fun. STP felt like the only grunge band that didn’t even bother pretending to pretend to be feminists.

One of their hits was literally unabashedly about rape.

Alice In Chains didn’t bother either but all they cared about was heroin.

Layne Staley really ended hard. He weighed less than an anorexic girl when he OD'd on a speedball.

 

[The Cunting Death]

Until the 2010s there wasn't any music I actively hated

 

[InspectorJappOfficial]

Jazz, swing, big band, and related genres are basically America's classical music, moreso than actual classical music made by Americans is.

Absolutely. Despite having millions of talented musicians in all genres, America has produced pretty much shit all in terms of good "classical" music. It's especially telling that our best composers are either barely American (Copland, Glass) or barely "classical" (Cowell). Fucking Brazil and Argentina have made more positive contributions to Western Art Music than the U.S. has!

No, the authentic American tradition of art music is rooted in jazz, and it definitely grinds my gears when my fellow right-wing extremists start insulting it.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Absolutely. Despite having millions of talented musicians in all genres, America has produced pretty much shit all in terms of good "classical" music. It's especially telling that our best composers are either barely American (Copland, Glass) or barely "classical" (Cowell). Fucking Brazil and Argentina have made more positive contributions to Western Art Music than the U.S. has!

No, the authentic American tradition of art music is rooted in jazz, and it definitely grinds my gears when my fellow right-wing extremists start insulting it.

Moondog is the best American composer I've heard called classical, and he is like that in that his music isn't really classical at all, just loosely drawn from it. I don't know much about the other two but I have listened to some of it before (a lot of it either from the AoE3 mod Wars of the Triple Alliance soundtrack, or coming from me looking that up) and I agree that it tends to be high quality. But Brazil and Argentina (and Mexico and the Caribbean) are all remarkable in musical output. Not coincidence three of four are heavily Black-influenced. I've listened to/played on saxophone a fair bit of bossa nova and that and other Latin music was a HUGE deal in the mid-1900s that people rarely talk about anymore.

Art music is a good way to put it, never heard that expression more but it sums up the difference between folk (not Folk folk, just the general meaning of it) music and popular music and other forms.

Another big thunk I had one day is that blues is basically Black people's equivalent to country music.

 

[NevskyProspekt]

Absolutely. Despite having millions of talented musicians in all genres, America has produced pretty much shit all in terms of good "classical" music. It's especially telling that our best composers are either barely American (Copland, Glass) or barely "classical" (Cowell). Fucking Brazil and Argentina have made more positive contributions to Western Art Music than the U.S. has!

No, the authentic American tradition of art music is rooted in jazz, and it definitely grinds my gears when my fellow right-wing extremists start insulting it.

I'd say George Gershwin achieved a brilliant, distinctly American form of classical music. 'Rhapsody in Blue' might be the most iconically Americana piece of classical music ever written, because it actively incorporated influences from jazz.

 

[AnOminous]

I'd say George Gershwin achieved a brilliant, distinctly American form of classical music. 'Rhapsody in Blue' might be the most iconically Americana piece of classical music ever written, because it actively incorporated influences from jazz.

I wouldn't disregard Aaron Copland either.

 

[NevskyProspekt]

I wouldn't disregard Aaron Copland either.

No disagreement there. I'd be a bad Texan if I didn't rank 'Hoe-down' among the greatest pieces of American music ever written.

 

[Calandrino]

What have you guys got against Samuel Barber, anyhow

 

[Sicko Hunter]

This isn't going to be an unpopular opinion on KF but it is to normies. I think rap songs promoting gangbanging, killing and selling drugs have a serious real world impact on young black America and feed into many of their issues as a people. I 100% believe some young black men hear songs about making thousands selling drugs and banging hoes and want to emulate that.

"But didn't people say this about metal in the 80s and gangsta rap in the 90s?" Yes but the main people consuming gangsta rap and metal were suburban white kids who never were going to gangbang and murder in the first place. If you're a 18 year old highschool dropout from Detroit with no dad living in poverty the appeal is very obvious.

 

[Positron]

I wouldn't disregard Aaron Copland either.

Unpopular opinion: Copland's modernist phase, such as his Piano Variations and Inscape for Orchestra, are unfairly eclipsed by both his folksy music on one hand, and by Stravinsky's music in a similar style on the other. This is a territory that even Michael Tilson Thomas's ironically titled CD "Copland The Modernist" loathed to tread.

What have you guys got against Samuel Barber, anyhow

I don't have a problem with Barber, but one piece of his has been overplayed. I'd like to see more concert promoters program in his beautiful Violin Concerto or the wind quintet Summer Music.

 

[AnOminous]

This isn't going to be an unpopular opinion on KF but it is to normies. I think rap songs promoting gangbanging, killing and selling drugs have a serious real world impact on young black America and feed into many of their issues as a people. I 100% believe some young black men hear songs about making thousands selling drugs and banging hoes and want to emulate that.

I'd agree with this but I think there should be a distinction between honestly describing ghetto life and glorifying it.

A pop example would be Coolio's Gangsta's Paradise and a grittier version would be Ever So Clear by Geto Boys.

 

[(((I am NOT a jew)))]

I have a soft spot for 2000s' country because I grew up on it. I can't listen to it a lot but I still think it's fun. It really is one of those genres you have to listen to in a certain setting like a barbeque, camping or hanging out with family. The only thing that kills country is the forced vocal twang most of the time. I also think any person saying "I hate most music EXCEPT johnny cash" is automatically an NPC and probably doesn't actually know any songs by the man.

Yes but the main people consuming gangsta rap and metal were suburban white kids who never were going to gangbang and murder in the first place. If you're a 18 year old highschool dropout from Detroit with no dad living in poverty the appeal is very obvious.

While I will agree to an extent, I cringe a little at anyone who says they can't listen to modern rap because of the "subject matter", as if Tupac and Biggie were saints. I can take thought-provoking rap but sometimes I just want to listen to unapologetic nigger music.