Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Kill a Troon for Pikamee]

They think destabilizing Russia and turning into 40-50 Bantustans will keep Russia from ever regaining power.

A book I once read that I don't remember the title of that they made me read at the farm at Langley claimed that no matter what happens Russia will never be balkanized because of the natgas infrastructure. The author made the comparison to oil - you can put it into barrels and put the barrels on a carriage pulled by a donkey. Any small shithole can be an oil producer. Natgas on the other hand requires a centralized, vertically integrated infastructure (of course this doesn't apply to LNG, which is a complete meme that's twice as pricey and half as efficient as ordinary natgas, and you need to dupe some naive sucker into buying it, like the US did with the polacks). The book also claimed that Gazprom was a sort of Aasimovian foundation that survived unscathed through the soviet collapse while preserving the core infrastructure of USSR. This seems quite convincing to me and it's likely that even in the worst case scenario a centralized political organism will naturally form on the base of Russia's energy infrastructure

 

[Matt Damon]

They're going heckin denuclearize Russia first......after they take back Crimea.......and after Putin gets deposed (because a fucking coup won't be more dangerous)...

Don't you know the first order of business after any military coup is to obsequiously hand control of the country you just seized over to the global hegemon you're currently fighting a proxy war against?

 

[Cool Dog Returns]

They're going heckin denuclearize Russia first.

LOL and they are gonna go for it after ukraine got fucked for giving up its nukes? remember when nato PROMISED that the moment russia crossed the borders they would send troops? what kind of retard gopnik is going to fall for that?

 

[Michael Wade]

What a senseless waste of life. First the Ukrainians have to clear out all the minefields they laid down to actually get to the Russians positions. Then they have to assault said fortified positions with almost no air support... It's a slaughter fest.

They are not accomplishing anything. Any slight gains will lull them into a false sense of security that the Russians will immediately exploit. Which they already have by launching counter attacks after the crain cleared out the mines.

 

[Romeo]

Update from last Saturday. (onion)

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Update in the Invasion - June 5, 2023 - Day 466​

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Summary - Ukraine launches large counter-offensives on the border between Zaporizhzhia Oblast and Donetsk Oblast and Bakhmut in prelude to the Great Summer Counter-offensive​

The Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) has started their Summer offensives in all fronts, with their largest offensive on the Zaporizhzhia Oblast-Donetsk Oblast border, due to it being perceived as the weakest point of the Russian defensive line that is stretched all across the Russian-controlled territories in Zaporizhzhia and Donetsk Oblasts. The Ukrainians have initially seized several villages and a lot of territory but lost most of these gains, including the villages, when the Russian Armed Forces counter-attacked in fierce battles. The AFU then launched a fierce attack onto the Russian-held village of Novodonetsk and after hours of fierce fighting, finally seized the village. Centrist reporter SuriyakMaps and pro-Russian reporter Remylind23 believe this offensive to be a probing offensive to look for weaknesses in the Russian defense, and NOT the start of the Great Summer Counter-offensive that President Volodymyr Zelensky pushed, but rather a prelude to it.

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Zaporizhzhia Oblast and Donetsk Oblast Border Counter-offensive​

Velyka Novosilka Direction​

Velyka Novosilka, Donetsk Oblast

• On the morning of 4 June, Ukraine launched several formations of the 23rd and 31st Mechanized Brigades from the reserves of the AFU supported by other military units, including Polish mercenaries, amounting to six mechanized and two tank battalions, on Russian-controlled territory between the Russian-controlled villages of Novodarivka (Zaporizhzhia Oblast) and Neskuchne (Donetsk Oblast), of which the latter is right adjacent to the Ukrainian-held town of Velyka Novosilka (Велика Новосілка).
  • The Russian defense are composed of five defensive lines in most of Zaporizhzhia Oblast, but on the border of Zaporizhzhia and Donetsk Oblast is consisted of one defensive line, which is considered as the most weakest point that the AFU can strike. In addition, the villages is far from the main defensive line of Donetsk Oblast. (1)
• The Ukrainian Army is tasked with capturing the village of Neskuche from Ukrainian positions at Velyka Novosilka and its suburb Vremivka. They launched a fierce assault and managed to established a foothold and pushed the Russians out from most of the village. In the west of Neskuche, the AFU launched a massive assault consisting of numerous armored vehicles and managed to capture a lot of territory from the Russians, as well as the village of Novodarivka. In the south of Novodarivka, the AFU launched a counter-offensive into the Russian-held village of Levadne, of which they captured. Next, they attempted to make a push towards the Russian-held village of Pryyutne. The amount of gains at that time can be described by the dark blue line in this image. (2)
• After an initial setback, the Russian Armed Forces under Vostok Command fought back fiercely for hours in a massive counter-attack to the point that the Ukrainians could not hold the new territory and their recently-gained villages and were forced to withdraw from most of these positions to their original positions (blue line) and only hold a slither of newly-gained territory (light-blue line), with the Russians recapturing and securing the villages of Neskuche and Novodarivka. (2) The Ukrainian assault to take Pryyutne failed and the Russian Army managed to recapture Levadne from the Ukrainians, nullying a lot of the Ukrainian gains. A second attack by the Ukrainians to take the now Russian-held Levadne failed.
• Ukrainian casualties are estimated by the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) on this front to be a maximum of 250 personnel, 18 tanks, 3 infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs), and 21 armored vehicles. Pro-Russian reporter Remylind23 estimated that 600 AFU personnel were either killed or wounded and they have lost 50 armored vehicles in this front.
• The Russian MoD reports that Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces and Commander of all Russian forces in Ukraine Valery Gerasimov is in one of the bunkers that guard this front. However, there are no pictures to confirm this is true.
• Pro-Russian and centrist reporters do not believe that the Great Summer Counter-offensive that President Volodymyr Zelensky pushed has started yet, and this counter-offensive, despite how fierce it is, is only a probing counter-offensive to analyze weaknesses in the Russian defense of their controlled territories in Zaporizhzhia Oblast and Donetsk Oblast. This is in contrast to the Russian MoD, who believes that the Great Counter-offensive has started.

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Novodonetsk Direction​

Novodonetsk, Donetsk Oblast (near Vuhledar, not the one near Kramatorsk, which confused Remylind23 into posting a map image of the wrong Novodonetsk)

• On 4 June, Ukraine is reported to have amassed their forces in the villages of Maksymivka, Novoukraina, Vodyane (not the one near Avdiivka), Kurakhove, and Novomykhalivka, five villages west to southwest of Donetsk.
  • Ukrainian forces in Kurakhove will be used to reinforce the AFU defending the last remnants of Marinka, an obliterated suburb/town southwest of Donetsk, while the troops in Novomykhalivka will be used to flank the Russian attacking force in Marinka from the south.
  • Ukrainian forces in Vodyane will help the AFU garrisoned in Vuhledar, a Ukrainian-held fortress city that the Russian Armed Forces failed to take in January, to take the Russian-controlled towns of Pavlivka and Mykilske. Vuhledar is over 37 kilometers southwest of Donetsk.
  • Ukrainian forces in Maksymivka and Novoukraina, which are northwest of Vuhledar, will be used to capture the Russian-held village of Novodonetsk, which is southeast of the Ukrainian-held town of Velyka Novosilka, next to the Donetsk-Zaporizhzhia Oblasts border.
• The AFU launched a reconnaissance assault to capture Pavlivka, the Russian-controlled town southwest of Vuhledar, and Myskilske, the Russian-controlled town southeast of Vuhledar, but Russian marines in these towns managed to repell them, with the AFU suffering casualties in manpower and equipment according to pro-Russian reporter Remylind23.
• Before 4 June, forces of the AFU advanced into grey area positions around the Shaitanka River north of Novodonetsk, and thus were able to establish a beachhead in the southern shores of the Shaitanka River. On 4 June, the Ukrainians launched a small reconnaissance assault to take the Russian-held village of Novodonetsk but were repelled. The AFU then launched a much larger assault the day after and managed to gain a foothold in the village. The Russian Armed Forces under Vostok Command have launched a counter-attack and fierce fighting has been reported between the AFU and Russian marines. In the assault, the AFU used more than 35 armored vehicles. They also reported that the AFU used Leopard tanks for the first time in this battle, but video footage is needed for confirmation. Ukraine continues to draw more reserves to capture Novodonetsk, intensifying the fight over the village between the Ukrainian Army and Russian marines. After hours of fierce fighting, the Ukrainians managed to seize the town of Novodonetsk from the Russian Armed Forces. (3)
• Pro-Russian reporter Remylind23 estimated that the Ukrainian casualties in the Battle of Novodonetsk amounted to 150-200 wounded and killed while Ukraine lost 12 armored vehicles, including 1 tank.
• The Ukrainians have also attempted to advanced towards the Russian-controlled village of Urozhaine west of the now Ukrainian-held village of Novodonetsk but were repelled.

(3)
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Spoiler: War footage

Longer video released by the Ministry of Defense about the repelled attack in the Zaporozhye region. - Remylind23​

AFU attempted a counter attack in the Zaporozhye region with MRAPS, Tanks and APCs. Russian artillery spotted the enemy early and repulsed the attack. Much destroyed and damaged equipment of the armed forces of Ukraine can be seen. - Remylind23​

Ukrainian armored casualties include a T-72B, several MaxxPro MRAPs, Humvees, and a M113.​

More footage from yesterday attack. UA abandoned at least 5 M1224 MaxxPros - Remylind23​

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During a failed attack, Ukies left an abandoned (French AMX-10 RC) behind. It is now being used best by RU Forces. - Remylind23​

Pro-Russian Telegrammers were excited that the abandoned vehicles were Leopard 2 tanks, though reality disappoints.​

Another video of the destruction of American M1224 MaxxPro armored vehicles during yesterday's offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Zaporozhye direction. - Remylind23​

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Donetsk Front​

Donetsk, Donetsk Oblast

• The Russian Armed Forces under Yug Command and the Chechen Akhmat special forces have captured three more blocks of Marinka, an obliterated suburb/town southwest of Donetsk, as the Zaporizhzhya Oblast-Donetsk Oblast counteroffensive rages on, pushing the Ukrainians out of the town. 80% of Marinka is under Russian control.
• The AFU has launched an assault to take Russian positions north of the Russian-held villages of Vodiane and Opytne from the Ukrainian-held settlements of Sjeverne and Avdiivka in the north, but were repelled. Avdiika is a Ukrainian stronghold that the AFU uses to shell Donetsk in the south.

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Spoiler: War footage

TOS worked out the Ukrainian positions in (Marinka). - Remylind23​

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Kupyansk Front​

Dvorichna, Kharkiv Oblast

• It is reported that the Russian Armed Forces under Zapad Command have crossed the Oskil River again from east to west to create their second beachhead. This beachhead resulted in the Russian capture of the Ukrainian-held village of Novomlynsk and the heights around it, forcing the Ukrainian forces to withdraw. With Russian beachheads established west of Masyutivka and in Novomlynsk across the Oskil River, the Russian Army can start launching a flanking offensive on the Ukrainian-held town of Dvorichna from north and south, leading to an established foothold across the river. Dvorichna is around 14 km north of Kupyansk.

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Bakhmut Front​

Berkhivka, Donetsk Oblast

• In the northern flank of Bakhmut, the AFU launched a probing counter-offensive to take the Russian-held settlements of Berkhivka in the direction of Soledar. The Ukrainians managed to advance partially through Russian positions next to Berkhivka Resevoir. Some reports stated that the Ukrainians have managed to push inside the village of Berkhivka but these were confirmed by centrist reporter SuriyakMaps to be false as the Russian Army have repelled the Ukrainian attacks and still hold on the village fully.

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Horlivka Front​

Horlivka, Donetsk Oblast

• North of the Russian-held city of Horlivka, the AFU launched a probing attack using a company consisting up to 10 armored vehicles to capture a pumping station and the area around the canal but was repelled.

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Final comments by SuriyakMaps​

It's expected Ukrainian Army will increase the attacks on the eastern front to divert Russian resources while it will use the bulk of the new resources in the southern axis, which Melitopol still being the main objective. On September 2022 we wrote about the southern fronts and the possibilities Ukrainian Army had to advance towards Azov Sea. Now this objective seems to be more difficult following the arrival of Russian mobilized troops and the construction of several trench lines. However, its too early to get conclusions of this new offensive which seems to have already started...

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Russia-Ukraine Border​

Novaya Tavolzhanka, Belgorod Oblast, Russia

• Ukraine launched a small infiltration group into Novaya Tavolzhanka but were repelled.

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Sources​

DPA​

• SUPER DUPER UBER UKRAINE OFFENSIVE BEGINS; Russia attacks too [ Ukraine SITREP ] Day 465-466 (3-4/6)
• [ Zaporizhzhia Front ] VELYKA NOVOSILKA SECTOR ATTACKED; Major Ukrainian assault across entire front
• [ Donetsk Front ] UKR OFFENSIVE SOUTH OF MARINKA AND FROM VUHLEDAR; Chechen captured 80% of Marinka
• UKRAINIAN OFFENSIVE FINALLY BEGINS IN MULTIPLE SECTORS; success could mean straight push to Mariupol
• [ Kupyansk Front ] RUSSIAN FORCES CAPTURED NOVOMLYNSK; creating 2nd bridgehead around Dvorichna
• [ Avdiivka Front ] UKR ATTACKS VODYANE & OPYTNE; despite ongoing Russian offensive operations

Weeb Union​

• SUMMER IS COMING! A Prelude To The GREAT Offensive

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Russian Command Groups​

Russian Armed Forces​

Don't focus on the meaning of the names too much; the names of the Russian command groups don't corroborate with their actual locations and directions.

• Zapad (Запад, West; controls the Russian Armed Forces at the Kupyansk Front in Kharkiv Oblast)
• Tsentr (Центр, Center; controls the Russian Armed Forces at the Kreminna Front in Luhansk Oblast/northern Donetsk Oblast)
• Yug (Юг, South; controls the Russian Armed Forces at Bakhmut and Andiivka/North Donetsk) - the most competent and efficient of the five, including the most elite of the Armed Forces, the Russian Airborne Forces (VDV; Vozdushno-Desantnye Voyska)
• Vostok (Восток, East; controls the Russian Armed Forces at Zaporizhzhya Oblast, west Donetsk Oblast)
• Dnipro (Днепр; Dnieper River; controls the Russian Armed Forces at Kherson Oblast)

Private Military Companies​

• Wagner Group (Donetsk Oblast and Zaporizhzhya Oblast)
• Konvoy (operates in Kherson Oblast)

Special Forces​

• Akhmat (operates in Luhansk Oblast and Donetsk Oblast) - pro-Russian Chechen special forces

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Reliable Sources for Updates​

• DPA: https://www.youtube.com/@DPA-War/videos
• HistoryLegends: https://www.youtube.com/@historylegends
• Weeb Union: https://www.youtube.com/@WeebUnionWU

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Reporters​

• Remylind23, a (very) pro-Russian journalist with informants inside Wagner PMC and Russian Armed Forces - https://t.me/s/remylind21
• Deep State UA, a (very) pro-Ukrainian source with accurate mapping if you ignore the ad hominems: https://t.me/s/DeepStateUA
• SuriyakMaps, a neutral source: https://t.me/s/Suriyak_maps

 

[Jump]

Centrist reporter SuriyakMaps and pro-Russian reporter Remylind23 believe this offensive to be a probing offensive to look for weaknesses

is only a probing counter-offensive

AFU launched a probing counter-offensive

Lots of probing going on.

 

[CarlosDanger]

This seems so senseless for what little was achieved and then again lost. I don't see how you sustain losing 10+% of your men and 16 tanks and the other vehicles lost in "probing attacks."

 

[Mav52ri]

Another thing that came to mind over the crowd who are coping over Bakhmut and trying to use the fact that it was longer than the battle for Verdun as some sort of own against those damn Vatniks. I would love to point out to them that the battle of Verdun was actually won by the French defenders which made their sacrifices worth it, while Bakhmut was a loss for the Ukranian defenders, and a pretty heavy loss if the numbers are to be believed, which made it all pointless XD.

Also I've been hearing that this grand counteroffensive to cut the Russian land bridge in half actually contains Leopard II's, any reports yet of any being blown up?

 

[Got Milk!]

Another thing that came to mind over the crowd who are coping over Bakhmut and trying to use the fact that it was longer than the battle for Verdun as some sort of own against those damn Vatniks. I would love to point out to them that the battle of Verdun was actually won by the French defenders which made their sacrifices worth it, while Bakhmut was a loss for the Ukranian defenders, and a pretty heavy loss if the numbers are to be believed, which made it all pointless XD.

Also I've been hearing that this grand counteroffensive to cut the Russian land bridge in half actually contains Leopard II's, any reports yet of any being blown up?

In my previous foray here, I attempted to explain retarded gypsy warmongering and it didn't go great but I do have half an answer to your question:

Spoiler: Rybar Post

️ Chronicle of a special military operation
for June 5, 2023



In the area of the Vremevsky ledge, battles went on all day. Only on published footage, Ukrainian formations lost about two dozen AFVs and three AMX-10RC wheeled tanks. In addition, there were reports of the destruction of several Leopard-2, but at the moment the information has not been confirmed.





#digest #Bakhmut #Donetsk #Zaporozhye #map #Lugansk #Russia #Slavyansk #Ukraine
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Spoiler: Similar rt article snippet

The Ukrainian Armed Forces’ total losses in south Donetsk direction were over 1,500 servicemen, 28 tanks, including eight German-made Leopard tanks and three French-manufactured AMX-10 wheeled tanks, as well as 109 other armored fighting vehicles,” the Russian military spokesman said.

It was unclear if the tally included the losses from Sunday's botched attack, which was described as “large-scale” yet “unsuccessful” by the Russian military. In that attempt alone, Kiev lost more than 250 service members, 16 tanks, three infantry vehicles, and 21 armored vehicles, according to the ministry.

Some videos circulated by military bloggers on Telegram did show what appears to be several abandoned French AMX-10 light tanks, but did not include visual confirmation of the German-made Leopards lost in battle.

Link to rt story: https://www.rt.com/russia/577545-ukraine-offensive-western-tanks/

Reported but unconfirmed that some leopard 2 were euthanized. More interesting to me, this is the first I've seen of recorded losses on AMX-10RC since the frogs announced they were sending them.


Vidya because I like Vidya:


Firing off rounds because fuck it, it's cool:

Attempting to fire off rounds but you you used saltpeter instead of Viagra:

Just another person of color crossing the Polish-Belarussian border:

Reportedly an attempted Ukrainian offensive in Zapa(you know the rest) oblast. Looks more like the battle for Micro Machine Hill to me. Oddly shot but splosions a plenty:

Just something I personally found interesting:

 

[ConsentAccidentVictimNo98]

Was talking with some others (they are mainly pro ukraine) and apparently the dam in Zapo just got blown up. I can't translate it so this could be totally wrong. Link Arc

 

[CarlosDanger]

That looks really bad, and it feels like it was done out of desperation. A lot of finger pointing going on.

 

[Jump]

The twitter drones are cheering because this cuts the water off to the Crimea. Ok a W I guess.
But what about all those towns along the Ukrainian side of the river?
What about cooling the largest nuclear power plant in Europe?
Ya I am sure everyone would love to see some Chernobyl 2.0 happenings and europoors suffering is always funny... But, when it comes to the war, this just seems like the hohols are salting the fields. Like they are coming to the realization they will never retake this land so fuck it. It seems very British. The DU rounds but on a much larger scale.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Residents of Kherson have to be evacuated within the next 24 to 48 hours.

Also, reminder

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

The twitter drones are cheering because this cuts the water off to the Crimea. Ok a W I guess.
But what about all those towns along the Ukrainian side of the river?
What about cooling the largest nuclear power plant in Europe?
Ya I am sure everyone would love to see some Chernobyl 2.0 happenings and europoors suffering is always funny... But, when it comes to the war, this just seems like the hohols are salting the fields. Like they are coming to the realization they will never retake this land so fuck it. It seems very British. The DU rounds but on a much larger scale.

It also makes the river uncrossable for a long time so it doesn't benefit any Ukrainian offensive either. Nobody saw/heard an explosion and it would've taken a big one. It could've even failed on its own.

 

[Jump]

Residents of Kherson have to be evacuated within the next 24 to 48 hours.

Also, reminder
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Ya Kherson is the city Zelensky visited a few months ago. I am sure they are all big fans.
The Russian side of the river there is just wetlands.


The lost city of Holantis?

 

[ConsentAccidentVictimNo98]

It also makes the river uncrossable for a long time so it doesn't benefit any Ukrainian offensive either. Nobody saw/heard an explosion and it would've taken a big one. It could've even failed on its own.

And a river crossing would be really fucking undesirable offensively anyways for Ukraine. For starters, amphibious operations are a pain in the ass both to actually gain territory but also to supply. It would have a low chance of success and as such Ukraine would likely hedge their bets elsewhere. Indeed, it could have failed on its own but overall I'd argue that Ukraine had slightly more to gain from it purely because of the Crimean issue and how it helps to further limit the water supply and put strain upon it. Ukraine also has the benefit of calling this an egregious act of terrorism (for which they responded with at a rate faster than Russia). It's just impossible to say what happened this early on.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The twitter drones are cheering because this cuts the water off to the Crimea. Ok a W I guess.
But what about all those towns along the Ukrainian side of the river?
What about cooling the largest nuclear power plant in Europe?
Ya I am sure everyone would love to see some Chernobyl 2.0 happenings and europoors suffering is always funny... But, when it comes to the war, this just seems like the hohols are salting the fields. Like they are coming to the realization they will never retake this land so fuck it. It seems very British. The DU rounds but on a much larger scale.

Dams like Nova Kahkovka are protected by the laws of war and the Geneva conventions. According to Article 56 of the 1977 Additional Protocol I:

“Works and installations containing dangerous forces, namely dams, dykes and nuclear electrical generating stations, shall not be made the object of attack, even where these objects are military objectives, if such attack may cause the release of dangerous forces and consequent severe losses among the civilian population. Other military objectives located at or in the vicinity of these works or installations shall not be made the object of attack if such attack may cause the release of dangerous forces from the works or installations and consequent severe losses among the civilian population”.

Since they wave away Ukronazis, I will enjoy watching the hypocrites wave away the Geneva Conventions. If this isn't proof for Putin and the liberashkas that pine for "the West" that they don't give a shit how many laws they break or how many crimes they commit as long as they can get Russia and Russians I don't know what is.

It is not enough to demand UCRAINA DELENDA EST; their puppet masters also need to be destroyed

Kakhovka reservoir link

Edited to add:

Footage of flooding of coastal areas in Kherson link

Kherson beavers are running from the destruction of the Kakhovka dam link

 

[ForTheHoard]

The twitter drones are cheering because this cuts the water off to the Crimea. Ok a W I guess.
But what about all those towns along the Ukrainian side of the river?
What about cooling the largest nuclear power plant in Europe?
Ya I am sure everyone would love to see some Chernobyl 2.0 happenings and europoors suffering is always funny... But, when it comes to the war, this just seems like the hohols are salting the fields. Like they are coming to the realization they will never retake this land so fuck it. It seems very British. The DU rounds but on a much larger scale.

It's probably a good thing they gave up their nukes.

 

[Male Idiot]

Oy vey Feline, the (((Puppet Masters))) too? You need to cool it with the antisemitism!

So tl,dr for a retard for me, how is the Wet Fart going beside a dam getting busted?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Oy vey Feline, the (((Puppet Masters))) too? You need to cool it with the antisemitism!

So tl,dr for a retard for me, how is the Wet Fart going beside a dam getting busted?

Ukrainian offensyiv status: Delayed because Russia blew up a dam to flood its own land, remove Russians from the area and cause a meltdown at a NPP they control because Russians are orc. Yes goys Russia did it to themselves, we just shelled it a bazillion times last year but we didn't mean it, this in no way benefits us at all, nope and remember we are true and honest Aryans fighting the orc horde, never forget. Remember to send us money and planes or else Russia will come to take away your Gay Pride parades and won't let the kiddos troon out, it would be another shoah!