Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Ghostse]

I am surprised that fully robotized tanks haven’t appeared in this conflict yet.
Especially with substandard captured USSR shit, why not rig up some servos and cameras to it, add some kind of autoloader and go on a remote control kildozer rampage. Even as a decoy.

tl;dr is that RC Tank, in field conditions, becomes a liability. Forget EM jammers, EMP, or CoD wrist computers, a near miss will often open circuitry with the shockwave. This less of an issue with humans who can right the system or offline it, more of an issue with the system is fully unmanned and now the internal nav system says that west is east.

You can try to do a cable control, but now there is a cable just asking to get cut.

It's funny how the US puts great emphasis on technology, operates an all-volunteer force, isn't afraid of using expensive electronics and complex systems - yet doesn't bother with an autoloader.

tl;dr its mostly a training philosophy. Having a 4th person means you have a spare if someone gets injured, and gives you a place to put a junior solider learning to tank. That is, in an Abrams, the most junior guy - the one fresh from training - is the one putting shells into the gun. In a Russian tank, it is everyone the guy aiming and shooting the gun.

The other part is autoloader issues with ammo sealing. See: T-72's doing the Pringles.

TL;DR it is much easier and better to do business with white people than with others.

And if you can't do business with white people, the Irish and Slavs are a close second and third.

 

[jalopy]

I don't do the "shoot the messenger" thing. It doesn't really matter what lazerPig is. Yes, I know he is a fag and weirdo. But he was still right. The T-14 is a garbage tier tank.

That a glorified production prototype likely wouldn't perform well on the battlefield isn't grand news. LazerPig made an enormous amount of factual errors in his video where he ignored his own cited sources to try and make the T-14 look worse. Everything from engines, to fire control, to thermals, and even NATO weaponry was incorrectly described. This is doubly pathetic because of how much of a basket case the T-14 is.

If a messenger researcher hands you a pile of bad information, then tells you in detail how much he loves furry cock, you should probably judge them more harshly.

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An enormous number of oil and chemical ships are being seized due to failing safety inspections.
The numbers from Singapore put total in the last year more than the previous decade totaled. Even the Chinese are holding up vessels.

Spoiler: Russian Oil Data

Russian oil export revenue versus its export quantity:

Produce 12% more, make 30% less.

And the biggest increase goes to India, whose doubled Russian oil imports:

While trying to pay for them in Rupees

There are also a number of countries purchasing oil, refining it, and selling it on.
The US has somehow managed to increase oil production by funding a war. They did it lads.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Working on an archive now, but it looks like the madlads just fucking blew the Kakhovka Dam:

https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1665904696429518849

 

[Glowie]

While Russia isn't immediately fucked, Russia didn't do itself favors in the long-term with its trade partners and 'strengthening relationships' with them.

China still has border disputes with Russia to the point Xi had maps redrawn and cities renamed, much like how China has vassal states in Africa, CCP drools over potential Russian collapse and would profit off those sweet raw resources and landmass, ever since Mongol empire Asiatic people which includes Russians pretend to be allies then fuck off where grass is greener and backstab their friends.

There's a reason I for one wouldn't call Z fanatics or wumao posters my friends. "Based and red pilled" is a façade to anyone who doesn't know any better. Products of low trust society spread like cancer
.

 

[jalopy]

Kakhovka Dam blown:

Google earth agrees with that drone vid being Kakhovka:

The violence has escalated

 

[WhiteNight]

Unbelievable.

Russians says Ukraine did it. X to doubt.

 

[mindlessobserver]

China still has border disputes with Russia to the point Xi had maps redrawn and cities renamed, much like how China has vassal states in Africa, CCP drools over potential Russian collapse and would profit off those sweet raw resources and landmass, ever since Mongol empire Asiatic people which includes Russians pretend to be allies then fuck off where grass is greener and backstab their friends.

Which is why the US has been sitting on the Japanese and quietly building ties with the Mongolians for the last 30 years. The last thing the US wants is the Chinese border advancing within 30 miles of the United States border. Which is what will happen if Russia collapses and the Chinese seize the Russian far east.

The biggest frustration with Russia as far as the US is concerned is not its imperialist aggression. It's how utterly pointless and counter productive it is. Hell, Russia was the great power friend of the US Federal government in the 19th century. That was how the Alaska deal went through in the first place. In many ways, US and Russian interests should be aligned in the 21st century.

Keep the Muslims down
The Chinese Out
And the Oil flowing.

All three things which both the US and Russia want for strategic and economic purposes, and yet the fucking boomers in both countries keep doing boomer shit and ruin everything.

 

[Thomas Talus]

Wikipedia citing the NYT has notes that the reservoir was abnormally high in May, believed to be because the Russians were keeping too many gates closed.

 

[Ghostse]

Working on an archive now, but it looks like the madlads just fucking blew the Kakhovka Dam:

https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1665904696429518849

Kakhovka Dam blown:
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Google earth agrees with that drone vid being Kakhovka:
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The violence has escalated

This fucks Crimea's water supply, yes?

Agreed to a degree - this ties into the idea of BRICS as an entity in general, but India is a terrible country for exporting things to. As recently as May, Russia and India suspended trade because India wants to buy in Rupees and nobody wants to be stuck holding Rupees because India's largest export is...Refined Petroleum, which they buy from Russia to resell. India has a horrible export economy and their currency is garbage.

China is a 'better' trade partner because you can import more goods from them and their currency isn't quite as dogshit useless as Rupees. Even then, the quality of goods and raw materials exported from China is always suspect on the international stage. The massive influx of Chinese automotives into Russia since 2022 or so has not been well-received and they are by-and-large pieces of shit from the factory.

While Russia isn't immediately fucked, Russia didn't do itself favors in the long-term with its trade partners and 'strengthening relationships' with them.

India is dogshit.
Trading with China is slightly better in that there is a semblence of rule of law, but the state controls the currency with hand-up-ass levels of control so you might find yourself getting assfucked in short.

 

[jalopy]

This fucks Crimea's water supply, yes?

Yes, and the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant will be without cooling.

This is the start of the canal:

 

[WhiteNight]

Ukraine is officially blaming Russia:

https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1665919629930250240

Rumors are that locals heard an explosion at 2:35a local.

Edit: TASS saying the dam "collapsed due to damage":

https://twitter.com/MalcontentmentT/status/1665929143152939008

 

[mindlessobserver]

Holy shit its happening. Blowing that dam is a declaration of total war. Ukraine now has less then a few weeks to secure the Zaporizhia station, and run pump lines to the reactors before a melt down.

So fucking cynical. The Russians have forced the Faustian bargain of binary choice. Peace or War. With no wiggle room.

Oh and let's not forget how many people are about to die down stream of the dan as the Dnieper is unleashed. If these reports are true, all the fears about escalation are meaningless.

This war is now nuclear and all of Europe is imperiled. Even you Turkey, you duplicitous fucks.

 

[Ghostse]

Given this fucks Crimea, and reports of the reservoir being over capacity for months, I'll buy Russian incompetence vs intentional demolition.

"You see comrade, is Russia smedvka. We put naval guns on BMD, and now we create new sea for Naval guns to be used on. Russian tactical genius."

 

[Scout Trooper]

Holy shit its happening. Blowing that dam is a declaration of total war. Ukraine now has less then a few weeks to secure the Zaporizhia station, and run pump lines to the reactors before a melt down.

So fucking cynical. The Russians have forced the Faustian bargain of binary choice. Peace or War. With no wiggle room.

Oh and let's not forget how many people are about to die down stream of the dan as the Dnieper is unleashed. If these reports are true, all the fears about escalation are meaningless.

This war is now nuclear and all of Europe is imperiled. Even you Turkey, you duplicitous fucks.

As some have mentioned from the Ukraine MoD blowing the whistle on the false-flag Zaporizhzhia plot, Russia needs an excuse for the international community to call a time-out so they can extract themselves under the guise of "just implementing this peace plan that isn't us just losing."

Fuck these cynical fucking losers, let them get their shit pushed in by NATO. If they try to launch anything we can put whatever THAAD systems right up their asshole and they can cry about it all they want to the 2 or 3 moron shitholes left that will entertain their schtick.

Fuck that makes me MATI.

Given this fucks Crimea, and reports of the reservoir being over capacity for months, I'll buy Russian incompetence vs intentional demolition.

"You see comrade, is Russia smedvka. We put naval guns on BMD, and now we create new sea for Naval guns to be used on. Russian tactical genius."

You know what, you're right. I'll withhold my condemnation until there's some further evidence available.

 

[jalopy]

Holy shit its happening. Blowing that dam is a declaration of total war. Ukraine now has less then a few weeks to secure the Zaporizhia station, and run pump lines to the reactors before a melt down.

So fucking cynical. The Russians have forced the Faustian bargain of binary choice. Peace or War. With no wiggle room.

Oh and let's not forget how many people are about to die down stream of the dan as the Dnieper is unleashed. If these reports are true, all the fears about escalation are meaningless.

This war is now nuclear and all of Europe is imperiled. Even you Turkey, you duplicitous fucks.

According to this IAEA report (Archive) the power plant doesn't produce it's own power, so control rods all dropped, and is reliant on a single ultra high voltage line for the cooling pumps. After that line there are diesel generators on site. Hopefully a report comes out soon on the water usage rate and how practical it will be to run pipes down to the new level of the Dnieper

I don't know what it's containment structure looks like, but it under the lightest load it could be under.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

This fucks Crimea's water supply, yes?

Yes. And seeing as securing water for Crimea was one of the goals of this war, I say Russia literally just fucked itself.

But more to the point, Russia just fucked with the water supply going to the largest nuclear power plant in Europe. And fucking with that power plant was a NATO red line. The Russians have completely lost it.

 

[Ghostse]

Yes. And seeing as securing water for Crimea was one of the goals of this war, I say Russia literally just fucked itself.

But more to the point, Russia just fucked with the water supply going to the largest nuclear power plant in Europe. And fucking with that power plant was a NATO red line. The Russians have completely lost it.

I give some weight to the people saying this was to try to the IAEA in to stop any southward Ukrainian advance, but given how this is going to fuck Crimea & its industry, I'm still banking on incompetence.

 

[Corette]

I give some weight to the people saying this was to try to the IAEA in to stop any southward Ukrainian advance, but given how this is going to fuck Crimea & its industry, I'm still banking on incompetence.

"Drunken Ivan pressing wrong button and causing nuclear meltdown hundreds of kilometers away" -scenario sounds something that future historians are not going print into clay tablets.
It was probably heteronormativity which caused...
... whatever happens now.

 

[Ghostse]

"Drunken Ivan pressing wrong button and causing nuclear meltdown hundreds of kilometers away" -scenario sounds something that future historians are not going print into clay tablets.
It was probably heteronormativity which caused...
... whatever happens now.

This is not a place of honor. No great deeds are commemorated here, only Ivan's colossal fuck up. Russians incompetence was dangerous in our time, and the danger is still present in yours. The danger is in the form of vodka and tracksuits. They are best left shunned where they squat.

 

[CuzinEd]

That a glorified production prototype likely wouldn't perform well on the battlefield isn't grand news. LazerPig made an enormous amount of factual errors in his video where he ignored his own cited sources to try and make the T-14 look worse. Everything from engines, to fire control, to thermals, and even NATO weaponry was incorrectly described. This is doubly pathetic because of how much of a basket case the T-14 is.

If a messenger researcher hands you a pile of bad information, then tells you in detail how much he loves furry cock, you should probably judge them more harshly.

Oil Tanker news:
Article
Archive

An enormous number of oil and chemical ships are being seized due to failing safety inspections.
The numbers from Singapore put total in the last year more than the previous decade totaled. Even the Chinese are holding up vessels.

Spoiler: Russian Oil Data

Russian oil export revenue versus its export quantity:
View attachment 5151258
Produce 12% more, make 30% less.

And the biggest increase goes to India, whose doubled Russian oil imports:
View attachment 5151265
While trying to pay for them in Rupees

There are also a number of countries purchasing oil, refining it, and selling it on.
The US has somehow managed to increase oil production by funding a war. They did it lads.

It still doesn't change the fact that the T-14 is garbage. Lazerpig was right about that. It's a shitty tank. Everything about it is shit.