DV8tion: I have a simple rule. I tend to trust people who have a religion they adhere too. An aetheist is always suspect, they in the end, make their own morality.
thedeugs: religious folks are probably the most untrustworthy people though.
thedeugs: religious people’s trustworthiness is ranked probably somewhere in the top 5 of untrustworthy people. and its mostly because where ever a large portion of children are there will be people there who want to fuck them
thedeugs: and sure not every religious person wants to secretly fuck kids but a lot of people who secretly want to fuck kids are religious.
DV8tion: Typical heathen think the Godly should answer to
you.
Arttheclown: What a bunch of preachy goddamn bullshit. Nobody knows what happens with life or what happens afterwards.
MEPMEP: I was about to say. Im religious and think people who have sex with children should get the death penalty
thedeugs: lol. cool. im not sure how im arrogant by saying people cant be trusted.
Arttheclown: Anybody acting like they do is just an arrogant liar who's really scraping for the bottom of the barrel of their own personal life.
thedeugs: and that people with power of others specifically should never be trusted
DV8tion:
you said religious people are the least trustable. Making
you wrong.
thedeugs: i definitely said probably the least trustable.
thedeugs: but what ever
Arttheclown: Trust no one. Don't believe it anybody. We're all a bunch of self-serving cunts.
thedeugs: precisely
DV8tion: Hey clown, because
you ignore God doesn't mean
you are immune to his rules.
you get to choose good or ill. The consequences are all on
you.
Arttheclown: Everybody wants to rule the world
Arttheclown: I do not ignore God. I tell him when he's doing a terrible job
thedeugs: i dont ignore God i ignore people who pretend to follow him.
MEPMEP: But people can have belief in those things. It's their personal belief.
DV8tion: Because
you are oniscient right.
Arttheclown: Because I am cut from his cloth
DV8tion: Heresy is a thing, God sent his son in the flesh to earth that doesn't mean
you are his equal. That's precisely how Satan ended up in the condition he is in.
Arttheclown: I don't believe in
your book. And
you will not convince me that I shall
Arttheclown: Nothing will make me believe. Nothing. I will live my life and I will find the truth. Or I will not
DV8tion: Hey that'[s
your right, don't act like
you are anything other than opinionates monkey like the rest of us humans.
thedeugs: i think bible is a good book to read and try to live by. but i also believe that people who wrote were all flawed and also had their own angles.
Arttheclown: Believing in a book is foolish to me. If that helps
you though. I don't demean it
Arttheclown: I could believe in Harry Potter. Maybe that book is right.
DV8tion: See that's
you're human arrogance. God has to prove himself to
you. Why? he can ignore
you nd watch
you burn in hell. Accept
your insignifigance dweeb.
Arttheclown:
you're human arrogance is believing that I need to believe what
you believe.
Arttheclown: I can believe whatever I want
DV8tion: No my job is only to tell
you about
your risk of hell. After that it's ALL ON
you.
MEPMEP: This is true
Arttheclown:
you will find me quite a tough sell. But I also do not shit on
your own personal beliefs. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying I'm stubborn!)
DV8tion:
you've been brainwashed by teachers and professors. Maybe not
your fault maybe it is. I don't get to make the choice.
Arttheclown: Lol. Quite the opposite. I've studied all the world's religions from Mesopotamian, Sumerian all the way to modern Christianity. None of them made sense to me
Arttheclown: But I do want to shit on
your beliefs. That's not what I'm doing.
thedeugs: or alternatively the church has made a mockery of christianity and turned millions of people away from it..
Arttheclown: . I don't think there's a book that can tell humans what to do. I don't think words on a page work to make people change.
Arttheclown: I don't think reading something makes a God damn difference.
thedeugs: i think people find answers in all sorts of religious books… and i think for billions of people that brings them comfort
Arttheclown: If those particular people need it maybe. I never did. All I have to do was look inward.
Arttheclown: Pain. Loss Tragedy. Suffering. Those are the teachers.
DV8tion: I'm so impressed,
you "STUDIED" world religions. Moth theologians spend a lifetime learning one belief system. Yo, in
your spare time debunked all them. Impressive.
Arttheclown: Because I am cut from his cloth
DV8tion: Heresy is a thing, God sent his son in the flesh to earth that doesn't mean
you are his equal. That's precisely how Satan ended up in the condition he is in.
Arttheclown: I don't believe in
your book. And
you will not convince me that I shall
Arttheclown: Nothing will make me believe. Nothing. I will live my life and I will find the truth. Or I will not
DV8tion: Hey that'[s
your right, don't act like
you are anything other than opinionates monkey like the rest of us humans.
thedeugs: i think bible is a good book to read and try to live by. but i also believe that people who wrote were all flawed and also had their own angles.
Arttheclown: Believing in a book is foolish to me. If that helps
you though. I don't demean it
Arttheclown: I could believe in Harry Potter. Maybe that book is right.
DV8tion: See that's
you're human arrogance. God has to prove himself to
you. Why? he can ignore
you nd watch
you burn in hell. Accept
your insignifigance dweeb.
Arttheclown:
you're human arrogance is believing that I need to believe what
you believe.
Arttheclown: I can believe whatever I want
DV8tion: No my job is only to tell
you about
your risk of hell. After that it's ALL ON
you.
MEPMEP: This is true
Arttheclown:
you will find me quite a tough sell. But I also do not shit on
your own personal beliefs. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying I'm stubborn!)
DV8tion:
you've been brainwashed by teachers and professors. Maybe not
your fault maybe it is. I don't get to make the choice.
Arttheclown: Lol. Quite the opposite. I've studied all the world's religions from Mesopotamian, Sumerian all the way to modern Christianity. None of them made sense to me
Arttheclown: But I do want to shit on
your beliefs. That's not what I'm doing.
thedeugs: or alternatively the church has made a mockery of christianity and turned millions of people away from it..
Arttheclown: . I don't think there's a book that can tell humans what to do. I don't think words on a page work to make people change.
Arttheclown: I don't think reading something makes a God damn difference.
thedeugs: i think people find answers in all sorts of religious books… and i think for billions of people that brings them comfort
Arttheclown: If those particular people need it maybe. I never did. All I have to do was look inward.
Arttheclown: Pain. Loss Tragedy. Suffering. Those are the teachers.
DV8tion: I'm so impressed,
you "STUDIED" world religions. Moth theologians spend a lifetime learning one belief system. Yo, in
your spare time debunked all them. Impressive.
thedeugs: my question for
you is how do
you know
you’re right? seems like
you’re the arrogant one
DV8tion: I'm not being condescending
you are.
Arttheclown: It doesn't really matter does it?. There's no proof that
your belief is right. There's no proof that mine isn't.
DV8tion: God is under no obligation to prove shit to
you. That's
your major misunderstanding.
thedeugs: lol. not sure how im being condescending but ok. its not my fault the modern church has spent the last 1000 years chasing people away from the faith.
Arttheclown: I can see
your very devout. But there's still no way to prove that
you're right.
DV8tion: Really when
you insult an entire cultures basic belief system, that's not condescending?
thedeugs: how am i insulting a belief system?
DV8tion:
you're missing the point
Arttheclown: Personal belief systems are personal. They are
yours. They're not mine.
Arttheclown: Doesn't really matter. All
you're trying to do is prove that
your belief system is correct. All I'm trying to do is show that all of them could be correct or incorrect.
DV8tion: Try speaking
your beliefs in person in Qatar. They explain with fire or chainsaws.
Arttheclown: Attempting to understand the afterlife Is arrogance.
thedeugs: ok? i mean ive talked to afghanis about this stuff. ive even done ramadan.
Arttheclown: Read
your books all
you want and believe in them.
Arttheclown: Live
your life long enough, And
you may find something different.
DV8tion: Nope, I am saying Christianity has proven itself time and again. Morality is built on millennia of experience. a single human lifetime is insignificant in comparison.
Arttheclown: I'm not going to argue with
you over this. Arguing over religion is fruitless. Find
your own peace
Arttheclown: Or find
your own anger
DV8tion: The lesson we learn from our ancestors is meant to keep the streets from flooding with our neighbors blood. If we disregard the lessons of history we revert to murderous "Might makes right" beliefs.
Arttheclown: This sounds like a person who doesn't have a girlfriend or a wife.
Arttheclown: Once
you have a wife,
you wouldn't think this way.
thedeugs: its also been bastardized and retranslated a thousand times. the true meaning of the bible has in fact been lost.
DV8tion: That's funny I've been married and divorced. My oldest has about the same arrogant attitude as
you.
Arttheclown: Ha. I'm sorry
you think I'm arrogant. I view myself as well lived
DV8tion: No it's a repeating cycle. we have good record of it.
thedeugs: but also if people wanted to murder each other we would. and quite frankly we do. often times over belief systems
Arttheclown:
you do seem bitter. Hopeless even. Angry.
thedeugs:
you mean to tell me that every word from every language is translated? ancient hebrew didnt have the letter j. just saying
DV8tion: That's idealism, which is a human falsehood.In the end we are human. That means we are pronee to violence like all predators.
Arttheclown: Oh yes angry... I guess I'm going to have to double down on this..
DV8tion: Do
you know how rediculous that sounds? The Armenian Genocide, erased by humans. Does that mean it didn't happen because it's inconvenient for NATO?
Arttheclown: Find someone who loves
you. It's that simple. Someone who sees
your flaws, and
your gifts.
Arttheclown: I didn't believe that I could. I didn't believe that I deserved it. But I did. And
you can too
thedeugs: we saw the might makes right attitude from so called christians in 2003 when the decision to slaughter a million people was made. we saw an alleged christian go along with a genocide in yemen.
DV8tion: Clown, the day
you make me angry is the day snowballs don't melt in hell. Arrogance is thinking
you have that much affect on anyone.
Arttheclown: I like how
you're trying to provoke me but
you won't.

What I said was true.
DV8tion: Was that supposed to be a deep thought.
Arttheclown: Yes it was. Sometimes when
you're least expecting it, somebody walks into
your life and breaks all the pieces of
your shield into bits.
thedeugs: a lot of things get erased by people. not sure what that has to do with anything?
DV8tion: What
you said is
your perception of truth.
you don't decide the truth,
you only judge what
you believe.
you have evey right to believe whatever
you want. Eve ate the apple.
Arttheclown: Sure
you can totally think that correctly Or maybe I've just watched enough people have the same exact experience.
DV8tion: Well if
you decide truth based on what
you read, it's fairly prescient that people make up history as they go.
thedeugs: my whole point in all of this is the biggest enemy of the church is the church. live
your life in accordance to the teachings and perhaps
you can restore faith i. the faithless.
Arttheclown: It doesn't really matter We don't have a crystal ball on
your life. I certainly don't. But I hope for
you what I see in my own personal crystal ball
DV8tion: mmmhmmm... and
you discount what
you didn't see.
Arttheclown:
you just never know.
thedeugs: do
you believe the bible to be the truth?
DV8tion: That's why when people ask how I am I tell them, "Better than I deserve". Because as a christian I have grace to fall back on.
Skull-Leader: Is this some werid religious debate?
Skull-Leader: both sides trying to trigger the other?
Arttheclown: I don't give two shits about
your dumbass religion. Or what
you think is important or not. Life will show
you on its own terms.
thedeugs: not really.
Skull-Leader: Well
you're BOTH wrong! Gorlock is Supreme Leader, and our lord!
DV8tion: I believe the Bible is the word of God and therefore not involved with human fragility.
Skull-Leader: Creator of the seven Cosmos D:
Arttheclown: This is TRUE
DV8tion: That's
your right. It's my right to tell
you you're a dumbass.
thedeugs: then how come the church chose what books belong it and what ones dont?
Arttheclown: I could carry this further and tell
you the God is dead. But I won't. Because I don't really know if he is
DV8tion: God is dead is debunked by God is Not dead LOL
Arttheclown: But he might be. Maybe
you're wrong.
DV8tion: I watched a movie and it said I could do whatever I want.
DV8tion: Pop culture theologians.
Skull-Leader: Well we are all in the matrix.
you just have to concentrate really hard on it, and
you can make anything happen
thedeugs: and just so we are clear im not an atheist.
DV8tion: Hilarious, literally making my point.
Arttheclown: Oh I take it back after watching this. Now I'm pretty sure God is dead.
DV8tion:
you do
you bro
Arttheclown: Adios cabrone
Skull-Leader: lol I'm only just now getting here, so I have NO IDEA what the points are
Skull-Leader: The Moors need to ReConquer Europe!
DV8tion: Don't go away mad.
you state
your beliefs I state mine. Neither backs down. No harm no foul.
DV8tion: That would take care of the women voting problem.
Skull-Leader: I don't *get* the Crusades. If the Muzzies controlled Europe for so many years, like 300+ years? WTF made people born 5 generations later want to take it back?
Charlie101101: Fun time is over
DV8tion: I think
you've been mislead. Islam is a baby "Religion" . Lot's of belief systems have come and gone in the Judeo-Christian Epoch. Islam is no different than the I'm ok
you're ok Secular humanism we are dealing with today.
Skull-Leader: I wonder if there are good videos on this topic...
Skull-Leader: But "The muzzies run things now" should have been pretty normal. They would have been born in this world, and never knew the times before it
Charlie101101: I watch his show with the other dude, there’s something about him that seems like he’s hiding something