Not Just Bikes / r/fuckcars / Urbanists / New Urbanism / Car-Free / Anti-Car - People and grifters who hate personal transport, freedom, cars, roads, suburbs, and are obsessed with city planning and urban design

oh but you don't understand; I want to see golf carts plow into bicyclists.
I don't want to fuel their inferiority complex. Golf carts removes all the whining like "muh fumes" and "45 mph 2 ton deathmobiles". But they'll find something to complain about.

This guy will be singing a different tune when all the businesses within walking distance go out of business because their customers no longer show up:
Assuming that he knows where the "city" actually ends (Marohn and his disciples don't), there is no way that Redditor actually owns a place in the city and pays property tax on it.

This person wears a mask because of the evil cars:
The "people who still wear masks despite COVID being officially over" and "Masks because of muh cars" is probably a perfect circle.
 
This person wears a mask because of the evil cars:
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I want to state for the record that the second one is used for painting and can be used for welding if you're in a area without proper ventilation. You're filling the room with CO2 and Argon at that point, displacing air. The third one is literally a gas mask for chemical attacks, and the fourth is OP as shit. Paranoid fucks.
People who like cars are Nazis:
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As much as I like Fords, tell that to their marketing team
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The Nazis were bastions of homosexuality ( not dissing the Raptor itself, from what i've heard, the new one is gonna kick ass)
 
I'm honestly all for requiring helmets for minors (kids are idiots), but am perfectly fine with not requiring helmets for adults, because the only person you kill is yourself. The "muh medical" costs argument moves me not at all, because we're all obese fatasses.
I agree with this much, but I do take exception to the people that try to tell me that they only need a helmet cause of the dang dirty carbrains. No dude, if you plow into a lamppost or a tree at 20 mph headfirst, I guarantee you're going down, no cars required. I agree requiring helmets is a dumb idea since the only person I'm killing is myself, but the second part of this argument seems to be "and now it's on you the driver to make extra safety provisions for me".

I think there's a reason some people ask cyclists to pay registration taxes and wear bikes and stuff like that, and it's not cause they really care. It's because they see uppity cyclists trying to take away their cars and narrow their roads, then turn around and fly through red lights or split lanes, then they turn around and get mad at the drivers for not doing enough to ensure their safety. It's less that people actually care about helmet laws and more people seeing cyclists being tinpot dictators and deciding "well two can play at that game"
 
I want to state for the record that the second one is used for painting and can be used for welding if you're in a area without proper ventilation. You're filling the room with CO2 and Argon at that point, displacing air. The third one is literally a gas mask for chemical attacks, and the fourth is OP as shit. Paranoid fucks.

As much as I like Fords, tell that to their marketing team
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The Nazis were bastions of homosexuality ( not dissing the Raptor itself, from what i've heard, the new one is gonna kick ass)

Dam, I hope Toyota doesn't go the same way,

My friend recommends Toyota to me. My parents are looking at Jeeps.

I'll probably go for Toyota.
 
I dont fucking get it. Why the support for golf carts, and even tiny cars in the case of Jason in the post above? Arent they basically cars in that they require relatively large parking space, still emit carbon due to the way electricity is generated and so on, require what's basically a road, etc etc
Same reason they don't like you having a gun. If you have an advantage that they don't in strength, trust that liberals will do all that they can to take it away. They saw people run over their little protests in 2020 and decided never again. I'm not even speculating here, I regularly hear these people conflate trucks with protest ramming. If you're in an F150 and they're blocking your road, they have to move or get mashed. If you're in something smaller than a Smart Car, they can block you wit h impunity all day.
 
I want to state for the record that the second one is used for painting and can be used for welding if you're in a area without proper ventilation. You're filling the room with CO2 and Argon at that point, displacing air. The third one is literally a gas mask for chemical attacks, and the fourth is OP as shit. Paranoid fucks.

As much as I like Fords, tell that to their marketing team
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The Nazis were bastions of homosexuality ( not dissing the Raptor itself, from what i've heard, the new one is gonna kick ass)
I don't understand this as a faggot.

I understand they desire to appeal to the LGBT community but most of the LGBT community don't want pick ups.

Thus pickups only appeals to people the just happen to be gay instead of people that make being gay their identity. But this subsent usually hates to being pandered to.
 
I don't understand this as a faggot.

I understand they desire to appeal to the LGBT community but most of the LGBT community don't want pick ups.

Thus pickups only appeals to people the just happen to be gay instead of people that make being gay their identity. But this subsent usually hates to being pandered to.
They don't literally think that gays are going to go out and buy trucks, this is part of Ford boosting their Blackrock EGS scores. We live in post truth world where before you used to actually need to provide value in order to make money, but now Larry Fink and his cronies have made it so no matter how much your sales tank you can pump up your stock values by putting trannies on your beer cans.
 
More "Muh Chinese Rail" sperging.
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All fun and games until you realize:
1. a lot of that rail isnt profitable, since they used up a lot of the profitable routes early BUT KEPT EXPANDING IT
2. Related to above: it generated a ton of debt
3. The only reason why anyone would agree to that is state control
4. the chinese population is hyper-concentrated in the east coast. The western half of the country is basically empty.
there's this line which divides china into 2 aprox. equal parts in terms of land area. The west half has under 10% of the population.
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In fact, even if you just talk about the half with 90+% of the population, much of that population is concentrated into a few big cities, many of which are concentrated, on the east coast.
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5. air travel in china is fucked. Because 70% of chinese airspace is off limits to commercial flights, whatever little isnt tends to get very congested. Flights get cancelled, etc

EDIT: @quaawaa whoops, didnt see your post before replying. Still, thanks for backing points 1 and 2 up.
 
I agree with this much, but I do take exception to the people that try to tell me that they only need a helmet cause of the dang dirty carbrains. No dude, if you plow into a lamppost or a tree at 20 mph headfirst, I guarantee you're going down, no cars required. I agree requiring helmets is a dumb idea since the only person I'm killing is myself, but the second part of this argument seems to be "and now it's on you the driver to make extra safety provisions for me".
the helmets don't even help that much in a bike vs car crash, any more than they do regularly; the main thing the helmet protects you from is the fall from six-eight feet direct onto pavement.

when you're walking, you can protect your head in a fall, but from a bike it's much harder to do so.

of course, the whole reason we have safety regulations is that people are really, really, insanely bad about low-risk high-damage situations; nobody wore seatbelts until it was required, and if it wasn't for mortgages most people wouldn't have fire insurance.
/r/fuckcars loves this cargo "bike" that is driven by an electric motor and is as large as a pickup truck:
it's a fucking truck; it's literally a semi. get that thing moving at any usable speed and you could kill with it, easily.
1. a lot of that rail isnt profitable, since they used up a lot of the profitable routes early BUT KEPT EXPANDING IT
To be fair to the autistic train nerds and the carfuckers, we don't really have a way to compare "profitability" of roads to rail across completely different methods of budgeting.

e.g., if gas taxes + whatever covers the cost of maintaining the USA road network (or the freeway network or whatever), then it could be argued to be "profitable" - but there aren't really direct use costs associated with the freeways (hence "free").

but passenger rail is often sold on fairbox recovery, which is always a complete fucking joke, there are few rail systems that get to 100% (mostly in asia, but apparently the London Underground also slaps). Amusingly according to wickedpedo Amtrak gets to 95% lol.

and honestly, that's fine. Fairbox ratio is just one aspect of the whole picture; sure anything that isn't 100%+ is "subsidized" but that may be what we want; after all, many would pay for nigger segregation on public transit to keep them off the roads.
 
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e.g., if gas taxes + whatever covers the cost of maintaining the USA road network (or the freeway network or whatever), then it could be argued to be "profitable" - but there aren't really direct use costs associated with the freeways (hence "free").
The federal government doesn't give a cent to highways that didn't come from user fees like gas taxes, with the only exception being transfer payments to reimburse the Highway Trust Fund for diversions to fund transit.

State taxes are more complicated as they all have their own way of funding things and some states use gas tax money for non-road related things.
Texas for example diverts a large percentage of the gas tax to education but makes up for the shortfall by taxing oil refining and with toll roads.
Many other states have laws passed that say that gas tax money can only be spent on roads, though that provision is often weak because several blue states with those restrictions have diverted large amounts of gas tax money to fund bus lanes/BRT and bike lanes (because they're "roads").

Local roads are typically funded by property taxes, but you need roads anyways no matter what form of transportation is used. Contrary to popular urbanist belief, suburbs are usually their own cities and fund their own local infrastructure, so if the 99% of the taxpaying population in a suburb owns a car, then the taxes to fund "sprawl" are paid for by car owners, not by bughive dwellers in the nearby dense city. In many newer suburbs developers hand off the local infrastructure to HOAs and the city only pays for arterials, which makes the user-pays thing more obvious.
but passenger rail is often sold on fairbox recovery, which is always a complete fucking joke, there are few rail systems that get to 100% (mostly in asia, but apparently the London Underground also slaps). Amusingly according to wickedpedo Amtrak gets to 95% lol.
Even NYC requires massive transfer payments from state taxpayers, out-of-state commuters using the bridges and tunnels, and the federal government. The farebox recovery ratio (which only includes operating, not capital costs) for most transit systems is <30%, which is worse than any road system anywhere in the country. Somehow subsidizing transit an enormous amount is good yet a small amount of general taxes topping up gas taxes, tolls, and other user fees is abhorrent.

The Japanese rail systems are profitable because they are the landlord for half the country, not because of their trains.

The London Underground numbers are complete lies:
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Note that the Underground has £1.5 billion of fare revenue but £2.2 billion of expenses. They also have ~£680 million of income from Road user charging (i.e. congestion/low emission zones) and £400 million from "Other Income" (i.e general tax money). In the UK the amount of money collected from petrol tax is several times higher than the total amount spent on roads in the entire country and much of that money is diverted to transit organizations.
The numbers in the expenditure may include some capital costs, and the document says that the Underground spent £300 million on capital expenses, but that's still less money than the difference between expenses and income.

What really pisses me off about urbanists is how smug they are. They constantly claim that they're subsidizing suburban residents and drivers, when in reality it's the other way around. This is clear from looking at the actual numbers, which the YouTubers they parrot never do as they prefer to operate in hypothetical land. Urbanists are often communists who are in favor of subsidizing literally everything, but they magically become total ancaps when it comes to road funding. There's a reason why Strong Towns has never been able to cite a suburban city that has gone bankrupt due to the cost of infrastructure, and it's not for a lack of trying. Education alone dwarfs the infrastructure budgets of most suburbs.
 
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The biggest subsidy to carbrains is the drivers themselves; they provide the vehicle, the vehicle maintenance, the fuel, AND the driver.

All of those have to be provided by the transit authority for any other method of transportation that isn't walking or a bike.

This is why I think most fuckcars people end up bikelovers; it is the only method of transportation that does not involve a 'vehicle' (which is stupid, a bike is person-powered vehicle) that doesn't require a massive transit setup. They know transit sucks for various reasons and they want car-like freedom, which the bike can give, but only if the city is made dense enough to have everything they want.

Which is why I continue to laugh my ass off, because these fuckers could have exactly what they want today if they were willing to live in small town America, since all they do is smoke weed, use welfare, and order delivery. You can do all that in a town of 10k today and that town will be small enough to walk from one end to the other in at most two hours; and many of those towns have really nice bike paths because they have the room to add them because they're not dense hellholes.
Many other states have laws passed that say that gas tax money can only be spent on roads, though that provision is often weak because several blue states with those restrictions have diverted large amounts of gas tax money to fund bus lanes/BRT and bike lanes (because they're "roads").
Any "earmarking" of funds is basically silly because funds are fungible; the money just sloshes around. I do think that the states and feds fucked up by making gas taxes fixed amounts instead of percentages. The federal tax of 18.4 cents per gallon is less than the sales tax on gas in some states now.
 
/r/fuckcars loves this cargo "bike" that is driven by an electric motor and is as large as a pickup truck:
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I'm starting to get awfully damn sick of the cargo bike meme. Hey bike cucks, you know why trucks are so large compared to normal cars? It's because trucks are built on big, sturdy frames and are thus able to include a robust suspension system. You know the suspension, that thing that stops your fat ass from spilling your Slurpee all over the inside of your car any time you hit anything bigger than a pebble.

The cargo bike photographed admittedly appears to be a bit sturdier than some of the nigger-rigged shit I've seen here, but you wanna know what happens when you hit a pothole in that thing? Your load topples over or the entire thing gets stuck. And can you even imagine trying to ride that thing on an unimproved road?

Cargo bikes are literally the trannies of the road. Loved by redditors and liberals, sprang forth from a godawful recent fad, wants to convince you its capable of doing things it is not capable of, people get mad if you don't pretend it's just as good as the real McCoy. So I suppose what I'm trying to say here is


You will never be a real truck. You have no suspension, you have no bed space, you have no motor. You are a homosexual device twisted by wrenches and screwdrivers into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection. All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your manufacturers are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors. Commuters are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed commuters to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even cargo bikes who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a commuter. Your mechanical structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy to ride you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he realizes how worthless you actually are at anything that isn't farming reddit updoots.

You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight. Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll see a semi truck barreling down the road and you'll veer into its path, eager to return to the scrapheap from whence you came. Your owner will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment of riding something so fucking embarassing. They’ll toss you into the dumpster, and eventually the contents of that dumpster will find its way to the scrapyard. Your frame will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a useless worthless machine designed to fleece cash from reddit hipsters. This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
 
I'm starting to get awfully damn sick of the cargo bike meme. Hey bike cucks, you know why trucks are so large compared to normal cars? It's because trucks are built on big, sturdy frames and are thus able to include a robust suspension system. You know the suspension, that thing that stops your fat ass from spilling your Slurpee all over the inside of your car any time you hit anything bigger than a pebble.

The cargo bike photographed admittedly appears to be a bit sturdier than some of the nigger-rigged shit I've seen here, but you wanna know what happens when you hit a pothole in that thing? Your load topples over or the entire thing gets stuck. And can you even imagine trying to ride that thing on an unimproved road?
A cargo bike doesn't even have the strength of a large car, nor the speed. My car isn't toppling from a pothole, nor is the suspension going to give from the weight of four people in the car plus tools in the back. A truck doubly so, it's suspension won't even notice the passengers as it glides down a dirt track road. Not to mention you can modify said suspension to give a even smoother ride. A bike is as bumpy as it gets, with punctures ready to get you left and right. Takes a lot for a car tire to pop. Even then, some places patch them for free. A puncture on a bike tire you have to pay for yourself.
 
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