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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 383 26.0%
  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 53 3.6%
  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,036 70.4%

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How does a Pixar movie cost the almost the same as a Marvel movie? I get they constantly are working on their in-house tech on each film, but it should not equate 10's of effect houses compiling thousands of shots, plus live action filming on top of that. At this point, these things should be shat out at about $50-75 million a pop.
They are virtually identical? About $50M of voice acting and motion capture, about $50M of CGI, and then $100M in kickbacks and "consulting fees" to political allies.
 
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Disney never fucking learned from Strange World.
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How does a Pixar movie cost the almost the same as a Marvel movie? I get they constantly are working on their in-house tech on each film, but it should not equate 10's of effect houses compiling thousands of shots, plus live action filming on top of that. At this point, these things should be shat out at about $50-75 million a pop.

I literally don't know but I think it works like they're individual studios. Even though all owned by Disney. Probably structured for tax reasons.

They've decided that movies and TV shows cost $250 million. Disney orders one from Pixar or Marvel. It's not an itemised budget. It's the cost that studio charges. The cost covers the making of the film plus a profit margin.

If the film loses money, the part of Disney that financed it can structure it as a loss when it comes to taxes.

I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I suspect it works something like that.
 
Did you ever see Little Dog Lost?
it's about a corgi who gets PTSD from a broom
nice enough dumb little cute dog movie the Mouse made a thousand years ago
Sadly I only know a very few old non animated disney movies thanks to a bunch of VHS hand me downs from my cousins but it sounds like something I would of liked
Come to think of I might of watched more live action disney films growing up then animated ones, I only recall owning Lion King, Lio & Stitch, Mulan, and maybe one or two direct to dvd sequels (most of them are better left unsaid). But live action I remember having the before mentioned 101 Dalmatians and Homeward Bound, Honey I shrunk the kids and the sequel when the parents get shrunked, the first Mighty Ducks movie, flubber, and maybe 1 or 2 other ones I'm blanking on.
 
I want an ultra realistic Bambi remake where the little retard get's turned into a meat crayon by an 18-wheeler because he refused to get off the fucking interstate. Deer are fucking retarded.
Only if his mom gets shot by a guy off-roading with his buddy in a pimped-out high-lift piece of shit truck.
 
How does a Pixar movie cost the almost the same as a Marvel movie? I get they constantly are working on their in-house tech on each film, but it should not equate 10's of effect houses compiling thousands of shots, plus live action filming on top of that. At this point, these things should be shat out at about $50-75 million a pop.
It really is insane how ridiculously high these budgets are, and that doesn't even include marketing and miscellaneous costs. I'm guessing that there's so much red tape in California that boosts costs, and people are getting overpaid, particularly the actors and writers.

At the same time, it should bring comfort knowing that you could probably make a more quality animated film or a sci-fi/fantasy work at around half the budget at most of what this film cost.
 
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Is anyone surprised? It's the same fucking "what if [x] had feelings" shit that Pixar has done far too many times, only somehow looking even more generic and bland than usual. If Pixar isn't shitting out a low-effort sequel to one of their good movies (do we really need a fifth Toy Story movie?), they're going back to that dead horse.

Anecdotal, but every time I saw the trailer in the theater, I could hear audible groans from others about how awful it looked, when they generally didn't react that strongly to any other trailer, positive or negative. You could guess all the story beats from the trailer (segregated society, wacky introduction of water guy and fire girl, forbidden but quirky haha romance, everyone learns to get along in the end), so it's not like you actually needed to see the movie itself. And when it looks that boring, who would even want to?

It's not that people won't go to see original ideas, they just want something that actually looks interesting. Pixar's lost any of the creative drive they had at their outset, and now all they can produce is generic corporate pablum. Hope you enjoy another box office bomb, Disney. Can't wait for Indy 5!
 
Is anyone surprised? It's the same fucking "what if [x] had feelings" shit that Pixar has done far too many times, only somehow looking even more generic and bland than usual. If Pixar isn't shitting out a low-effort sequel to one of their good movies (do we really need a fifth Toy Story movie?), they're going back to that dead horse.

Anecdotal, but every time I saw the trailer in the theater, I could hear audible groans from others about how awful it looked, when they generally didn't react that strongly to any other trailer, positive or negative. You could guess all the story beats from the trailer (segregated society, wacky introduction of water guy and fire girl, forbidden but quirky haha romance, everyone learns to get along in the end), so it's not like you actually needed to see the movie itself. And when it looks that boring, who would even want to?

It's not that people won't go to see original ideas, they just want something that actually looks interesting. Pixar's lost any of the creative drive they had at their outset, and now all they can produce is generic corporate pablum. Hope you enjoy another box office bomb, Disney. Can't wait for Indy 5!
Is it even originality at that point?

See, we like to complain about Disney's creative bankruptcy based on the amount of remakes, sequels, reboots and the fact that this is all they're doing to try to make money now, but what we don't often talk about is the fact that the same stories are being reskinned over and over again.

Elemental was clearly supposed to be an analogy to interracial relationships, which is a subject that has been beaten to death by Hollywood, Disney included. Even some ideas in the film are ripped off, not even inspired, from other forms of media. This is why blacklisting people is such a bad idea because those people probably have original ideas that we've never before seen displayed on the screen, but because of this trite industry, we're limited to the same topics or types of topics.
 
Is it even originality at that point?

See, we like to complain about Disney's creative bankruptcy based on the amount of remakes, sequels, reboots and the fact that this is all they're doing to try to make money now, but what we don't often talk about is the fact that the same stories are being reskinned over and over again.

Elemental was clearly supposed to be an analogy to interracial relationships, which is a subject that has been beaten to death by Hollywood, Disney included. Even some ideas in the film are ripped off, not even inspired, from other forms of media. This is why blacklisting people is such a bad idea because those people probably have original ideas that we've never before seen displayed on the screen, but because of this trite industry, we're limited to the same topics or types of topics.
Exactly, it's why anyone pointing to this as an example of why original ideas fail is simply incorrect. It's corporate media playing it as safe as possible, pushing the approved message that you can get from any number of similar movies or TV shows. Not only does nobody want to see shit they've already seen before repeatedly, they also aren't in the mood to get lectured to for the umpteenth time, and certainly not in what's supposed to be a family movie.

You're right though, nothing will change as long as Hollywood remains the incestuous bubble it's been for decades now. They've chased out anyone who won't play ball and doesn't have fuck-you money or clout, so all you get is a single perspective that's at odds with a large chunk of the population. And I'd imagine that even the people that agree with their message are finding it tedious, especially when it's being handled by the no-talent hacks that make up the bulk of the industry.

On the bright side, it does provide plenty of schadenfreude watching Disney stumble over itself again and again, so Hollywood can still produce some kind of entertainment, albeit unintentionally.
 
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Wow, A movie with a heavy subtext of dysfunctional race relations fails to appeal to a mainstream audience. What a shock!

People are tired of "socially conscious entertainment" being shoved down their throat because it is no entertaining at all. People just want a fun story, not be preached by coastal elites. International audiences are barely showing up to the screenings because this messaging is entirely culturally detached from their lives, this is too American centric storytelling in the worse way imaginable.

Also the character are a bunch of hideous amorphous blobs. at least with stuff like Zootopia the use of anthropomorphic characters for personality archetypes is an universal theme in storytelling,
 
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