The Square Enix Griefing Thread

Square is doing their best to forget Xenogears ever happened, and now Monolith is beating them at making JRPGs. The underage stuff was Billy's story and it was more of the church being run by global homo elites, not necessarily pushing degeneracy to the players.
Exactly, you were supposed to be horrified at the prospect, not jack off to it.
Just like how we'll never get another Chrono threequel.
I still file that as a dodged bullet. I admit I never played it, but seeing how it was related to the original in the most convoluted way possible, that they axed Magus being a party member and that there are a bajillion party members that I very much doubt I could ever give a fuck about (in Suikoden they at least pimp out your base).
Billy considered selling his body to support himself, his sister, and their other orphan friends he took in because their mother was dead and their father was a deadbeat who had basically disappeared by that point. He didn't actually go through with it though.
True, forgot that he just considered it. On a complete tangent, really liked his ammo mechanic and left right elemental shotguns, they really didn't need to make it that elaborate.

I still have to get to playing the Xenoblade games, but I imagine they did not go anywhere as hard as Xenogears. God I would have loved to see the original execution of that insane fever dream thar couple had... specially when it comes to episode 6 of Xenogears, we have 0 info about what that was going to be about.
 
but I imagine they did not go anywhere as hard as Xenogears.
Xenoblade 1 is completely unrelated other than a plot point similar to the 'have-nots' in the latter half. The ending has a nice visual throwback to Gears but its pretty basic otherwise. 2 is a shonen anime and never get close to anything in Gears other than a location that is very similar to the Zeboim ruins, they expand the story to include the Zohar (under a legally distinct name) and as a result retconned the end of 1, its still very basic. 3 is the most like Gears, the whole story feels like a remix of the Solaris plot and the main character is legally distinct Fei, even with the Id plotline mostly intact, probably the closest to a Gears experience if you can get past the weeb artstyle (I know Gears is anime too, but I think the 90s style looks so much better than the cat ears and street wear of 2/3). Xenoblade X has the set-up and complexity of Xenogears, but the main story falls flat because of various development issues, including a complete re-write of the script, still has the best sidequests and extremely good character development, and in my opinion the best gameplay.

I predict their next game will be a proper re-do of X with the scrapped script, since they pretty much outright confirmed that the trilogy is a self contained side story of episode 1 of Perfect Works in the 3 dlc (along with referencing the Eldridge and Xenosaga), so it seems like they made the Xenoblade trilogy just to cap it off and then are using that to launch straight back into telling Perfect Works, which is based, force the weebs to experience a good story lol.
 
Xenoblade 1 is completely unrelated other than a plot point similar to the 'have-nots' in the latter half. The ending has a nice visual throwback to Gears but its pretty basic otherwise. 2 is a shonen anime and never get close to anything in Gears other than a location that is very similar to the Zeboim ruins, they expand the story to include the Zohar (under a legally distinct name) and as a result retconned the end of 1, its still very basic. 3 is the most like Gears, the whole story feels like a remix of the Solaris plot and the main character is legally distinct Fei, even with the Id plotline mostly intact, probably the closest to a Gears experience if you can get past the weeb artstyle (I know Gears is anime too, but I think the 90s style looks so much better than the cat ears and street wear of 2/3). Xenoblade X has the set-up and complexity of Xenogears, but the main story falls flat because of various development issues, including a complete re-write of the script, still has the best sidequests and extremely good character development, and in my opinion the best gameplay.

I predict their next game will be a proper re-do of X with the scrapped script, since they pretty much outright confirmed that the trilogy is a self contained side story of episode 1 of Perfect Works in the 3 dlc (along with referencing the Eldridge and Xenosaga), so it seems like they made the Xenoblade trilogy just to cap it off and then are using that to launch straight back into telling Perfect Works, which is based, force the weebs to experience a good story lol.
Oooh, you got me interested, specially with that chapter 1 bit. Remind me, was the Kim era chapter 3? 4 I remeber as Krellian's, Lacan and Sophia's age. And would Xenosaga be kind of chapter 2 or another aspect of 1?
 
Oooh, you got me interested, specially with that chapter 1 bit. Remind me, was the Kim era chapter 3? 4 I remeber as Krellian's, Lacan and Sophia's age. And would Xenosaga be kind of chapter 2 or another aspect of 1?
Xenosaga trilogy is pre-planet, so essentially episode 1, but expanded from the original Perfect Works plans. Xenosaga was going to be 6 games in 3 'episodes' in groups of two. So the first two games would be episode 1, the next two would be the on-planet Xenogears stuff, so episode 2 - 5, then the next two would cover episode 6. This failed when ep1 of saga failed to meet expectations and had to cut a bunch, so they changed the saga plans into 3 games covering only the first pair instead. Episode 3 ends when the Xenogears intro movie would start essentially.

The Xenoblade games do not fit into the Perfect Works episodes, but they share similar plot points because its still Takahashi. I suppose if you need to compare directly then XC3 is closest to episode V, but thats just because of the similar themes to Gears. When I said the episode 1 thing what I mean is that the Xenoblade trilogy is essentially a side story spinoff from a major event in the perfect works timeline. This is kind of hard to explain without outright spoiling things, but just think of how Earth vanished in Xenosaga, due to Zohar experiments, Xenoblade trilogy would be a spinoff from that point, not the main story with the immigrant fleet that leads into Xenosaga episode 1, but is instead a side story that starts from that same event. Inconsequential to the overarching story of Perfect Works, but still connected to it.

Kim was Zeboim, episode 3. I just grabbed my copy of Perfect Works to check but forgot there were no screenshots for each episode and I don't speak Japanese lol. Here is the translated version:
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You can sort of match up events of some of the episodes with events in the Xenoblade games (2 and 3 only, 1 was never meant to be a Xeno game), but I don't think its meant to actually be Perfect Works episodes.

As for Xenoblade X, since from what has been said from the end of the XC3 DLC, I regard as the new starting point for Perfect Works, that would be the earliest point ever told. It's post Earth vanishing like Xenosaga, but before all the interplanetary colonies exist. It also starts with the ship crashing like the Xenogears intro, but I would still consider it to be episode 1 or episode 0 to an extent. That is if they still intend to keep X mostly the same with the probable re-writes they do now that they are doing Perfect Works again.
 
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Xenogears is too based to be made today because one of its central plot points is that God is real and he is willing to orchestrate events behind the scenes so that (You) can have heterosexual sex with your qt redhead mommy gf.
 
I will respect the gay decision if they allow us to kill his ass. lol
 
Xenogears is too based to be made today because one of its central plot points is that God is real and he is willing to orchestrate events behind the scenes so that (You) can have heterosexual sex with your qt redhead mommy gf.
Monolith Soft is known for this. Xenogears and Xenosaga oozed Christian, Gnostic and Nietzschean symbolism.
 
Monolith Soft is known for this. Xenogears and Xenosaga oozed Christian, Gnostic and Nietzschean symbolism.
Xenogears is too based to be made today because one of its central plot points is that God is real and he is willing to orchestrate events behind the scenes so that (You) can have heterosexual sex with your qt redhead mommy gf.
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The world is also conspicuous for its ethnic homogeneity, which producer Naoki Yoshida has explained as a reflection of the "geographical, technological, and geopolitical constraints" of medieval Europe. Leaving aside the fact that there were Black and brown people in medieval Europe, this justification rings hollow given that several locations take open inspiration from north Africa and the Middle East, with towns that, for example, riff on Islamic architectural traditions and attire, but are predominantly or exclusively populated by anglophone white people (I hedge, here, simply because I haven't been around and talked to everybody). I find the deletion of people of colour from these spaces more sinister than the racial stereotypes of older Final Fantasies, particularly in a game that wants to talk about overcoming structural injustice and bringing people together. That "togetherness" is worth fighting for, but it's characterised here by what it excludes.
uh oh chuds
 
"There's limited to no racial diversity in XVI because it wouldn't be accurate to the worldbuilding and historical accuracy parallels."

Absolutely based.

"There's gay dudes having gay boyfriend gay kisses in XVI."

ABSOLUTE TRAVESTY.
 
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That's the kiss, it's a pan out shot, not even a close up one. I don't think it's worth to get upset for, even in the context of itself.

Video, depends on how long SE will strike this down.
 
"There's limited to no racial diversity in XVI because it wouldn't be accurate to the worldbuilding and historical accuracy parallels."

Absolutely based.

"There's gay dudes having gay boyfriend gay kisses in XVI."

ABSOLUTE TRAVESTY.
there were probably more dudes having gay kisses in private than nogs running around. ffs just look at the french being french.

as @Hammr2 said not really worth to get anyone's panties in a twist, besides they're still TWO WHITE DUDES, squeenix should check it's privilege and fire it's transphobe sjw council for not doing it's job.

if anything I blame the sjw shit for turning everyone into oversensitive pussies on either side of the spectrum, no one would've given a fuck about this 20 years ago (and then only that it showed up in one of japan's biggest known franchises), now not even context or amount matters. gg no re you fucking faggots.
 
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Xenoblade 1 is completely unrelated other than a plot point similar to the 'have-nots' in the latter half. The ending has a nice visual throwback to Gears but its pretty basic otherwise. 2 is a shonen anime and never get close to anything in Gears other than a location that is very similar to the Zeboim ruins, they expand the story to include the Zohar (under a legally distinct name) and as a result retconned the end of 1, its still very basic. 3 is the most like Gears, the whole story feels like a remix of the Solaris plot and the main character is legally distinct Fei, even with the Id plotline mostly intact, probably the closest to a Gears experience if you can get past the weeb artstyle (I know Gears is anime too, but I think the 90s style looks so much better than the cat ears and street wear of 2/3). Xenoblade X has the set-up and complexity of Xenogears, but the main story falls flat because of various development issues, including a complete re-write of the script, still has the best sidequests and extremely good character development, and in my opinion the best gameplay.

I predict their next game will be a proper re-do of X with the scrapped script, since they pretty much outright confirmed that the trilogy is a self contained side story of episode 1 of Perfect Works in the 3 dlc (along with referencing the Eldridge and Xenosaga), so it seems like they made the Xenoblade trilogy just to cap it off and then are using that to launch straight back into telling Perfect Works, which is based, force the weebs to experience a good story lol.

Xenosaga really could have used several more trips to the cutting room floor. There's no real characterization of the cast in between the movie length cutscenes and insane amount of exposition. Not even a full length anime season and two VN spinoffs were enough. They clearly have a different definition of what constitutes a video game. Which is a far more interactive medium than the glorified picture books of the visual novel genre, books, and movies.
 
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