Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Much smaller post than usual:

A t-90 makes all the Ukies jealous as it takes.multiple hits and still engages the enemy:








Footage of the nord stream aftermath released by German news:




Drone gets some action in a trench:



Idk where this was filmed but a couple of fags decide they are going to settle a Russian army convoys hash. Goes about as expected:




I posted this yesterday but enjoyed it so much I'm reposting for... Educational reasons. How to escape the Ukrainian draft officer:



Eta: map of territories captured by AFU since the counteroffensive began:

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Just another public service announcement, don't breach threads. Also don't respond to those that breach threads, just report them and pretend they don't exist. The point is to prevent derails and this is the most effective way to do so. I've deleted the offending post and responses.

I'm also done just deleting this shit. People who break containment will be threadbanned from both Ukraine and Russia threads and will only be able to post about this shit in the mass debate thread. I feel like that's a harsh enough punishment.
 
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Afghans are not Arabs, nor do they worship in temples. Afghans are Muslims who worship in mosques.

Also the nation of Afghanistan did not plan, finance or execute 9-11.

Al Qaeda was an organization created and financed by the USA that attracted disaffected Muslims from all over, but especially Arabs, to fight the USSR in Afghanistan, just like we're doing now in Ukraine with Russia. The head of Al Qaeda was a wealthy Saudi of Yemeni descent living in Afghanistan. After the Taliban succeeded in making the Soviets leave Afghanistan. Osama bin Laden turned on the US, who he also considered his enemy.

Afghanistan offered to arrest and try bin Laden as long as the US provided proof of his guilt. We refused, so we went to war not because Afghanistan was guilty but because we wanted bin Laden without exposing our clandestine agencies' shenanigans to the very people we exploited during the Cold War.

Your father is smart man.
Stop being a conspiracy slurping retard.

Al Queda was formed because OBL was asshurt about Americans in the ME (especially after the Saudis went with a real military and not his couple of hundred light infantry to get rid of Saddam in 1991) and he hated the great Satan the USA, the Jews, and the west in general. The ideological fountainhead of Al Qaeda was an asshurt Egyptian fundamentaliat named Sayyed Qutub. Everything he preached for decades was lapped up by OBL and company.

The Taliban were letting him live in Afghanistan and he directed global terror attacks. They can get fucked too. They are given a a chance to hand him over and they didn't because their Bronze age tribal sensibilities might have been offended. Yeah piss off and go back to raping boys and stoning people to death.

Oh and the fucking Taliban weren't formed until 4 YEARS after the USSR left Afghanistan dumbass. Fucking CHRIST some of y'all literally suck jihadis off and believe whatever retarded grifter tells you the JEWS DID THIS.

As for the Moskva even Russia's own reporting said the ship was almost falling apart and major systems didn't work

Now for more fun

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Good to know that relying on the US for protection is heavily reliant on if they feel like it or not.
That's how it's always been, and if you provide the US with a critical resource or commodity. There are retards at the state department who think, at the same time, that the US military is evil yet it should stop every civil war or conflict on earth as well....
I saw this cope on Twitter dot com. This is exactly the same cope that the Russian side was pushing during Bakhmut offensive. It was dumb then. it's dumb now.
The "attrition battle" was first tried by Germans at Verdun. "We have more artillery, better motivated soldiers and superb officer corps," - the generals from Oberste Heeresleitung thought - "we will trade with the French at a favorable rate and run them out of reserves". To say it didn't end well is an understatement.
In most cases, the attacking side takes higher losses at the breakthrough stage. Once the enemy line is broken, this "investment" is returned and multiplied during exploitation and envelopment/encirclement phases. If there's no breakthrough, attackers will suffer higher attrition than defenders, unless their tech is vastly superior ("machine-gunning Sudanese from steamboats"-levels of superior).
In case of Bakhmut, Wagniggers were losing more men for marginal gains right until they captured the high ground to the north and south of Bakhmut, enveloping it and gaining better spotting for their artillery. This happened in Jan-Feb, 2023 and at that point, clinging to Bakhmut was pointless (Ukrainian generals were preparing withdrawal at this time, but the Z-man decided to play Hitler for a while).
And the fact that the counteroffensive started immediately after Bakhmut means that "meatgrinder" has failed to drain reserves from AFU. Stellar job, Wagniggers
The VAST majority of Wagner's losses at Bakhmut were convicts on their 6 month ticket to freedom. Russia views most prisoners as absolute scum, especially drug addicts, dealers, and other felons. I doubt 99% of Russians care one bit if 15,000 convicts got wasted taking that city. Wagner kept their true professionals back until the very end.

As for Wagner's purpose, it's a transnational economic enterprise that happens to have a 10,000 man armed win that can be bulked up with convict cannon fodder now. Wager runs gold mines, diamond smuggling, arms trading and all kinds of businesses. Eric Prince at Blackwater WISHES he had the same kind of juice Yevgeny has.
 
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Stop being a conspiracy slurping retard.

Al Queda was formed because OBL was asshurt about Americans in the ME (especially after the Saudis went with a real military and not his couple of hundred light infantry to get rid of Saddam in 1991) and he hated the great Satan the USA, the Jews, and the west in general. The ideological fountainhead of Al Qaeda was an asshurt Egyptian fundamentaliat named Sayyed Qutub. Everything he preached for decades was lapped up by OBL and company.

The Taliban were letting him live in Afghanistan and he directed global terror attacks. They can get fucked too. They are given a a chance to hand him over and they didn't because their Bronze age tribal sensibilities might have been offended. Yeah piss off and go back to raping boys and stoning people to death.

Oh and the fucking Taliban weren't formed until 4 YEARS after the USSR left Afghanistan dumbass. Fucking CHRIST some of y'all literally suck jihadis off and believe whatever retarded grifter tells you the JEWS DID THIS.

As for the Moskva even Russia's own reporting said the ship was almost falling apart and major systems didn't work
You know, regurgitating Wikipedia isn't the own you think it is; tell me you have no clue regarding the US role in the creation of the Mujahedin (thanks Stallone for that shout out in Rambo III) and the clandestine agencies involved in Al Qaeda/The Base, the network of Islamic militant volunteers and the wealthy Saudi Osama Bin Laden our glowniggers put in charge of raising funds for the Islamic brigades in the secret CIA/ISI insurgent camps located Pakistan and Afghanistan. Al Qaeda was simply the name for the data containing a list of those that came to Afghanistan for the jihad, and Bin Laden kept it as well as the list of rich ME oil sheikhs who financed them, after we abandoned Afghanistan to focus on Iraq and Saddam Hussein.

Talib merely means student in Pashto, and the talibs in the religious schools in Pakistan flocked to the jihad against the USSR in droves, and became a faction after the USSR left during the civil war that followed. Hence the nickname Taliban, something American journos invented for gullible burgers like you, dumbass. They eventually won so the name stuck.

Before you scream about conspiracies like the good little NPC you are, let me remind you this is not secret but freely acknowledged, to the point Hollywood made a sappy and convoluted 2007 film with Tom Hanks about Operation Cyclone, the official name for the CIA glow op to arm and finance the Afghan mujaheddin in Afghanistan. Look it up on cia.gov, its all there.

Fucking CHRIST some of y'all literally suck neocons off and believe whatever retarded grifter tells you the COMMIES DID THIS. :story:

Since you mention Sayyid Qutb, a religious scholar Gamel Abdel Nasser executed for riling up fundamentalists in Egypt, he indeed proposed a return to the basic tenets of the Koran and Islam to counter the growing Western influence in the Middle East, having experienced first hand as a university student in the US, and his critique has been completely vindicated given that the current position of the President of the United States, Congress and judiciary is to promote fag and troon rights, to the point of saying your children are not yours, but theirs, to do with as they please, and it pleases then greatly if boys cut off their penises and girls hack off their breasts, ensuring they gobble up HRT pills for life.

As far as the Moskva I never even mentioned it, so take a break from gargling Bill Kristol's shriveled cock and pay attention.
 
Ironic that Joseph Stalin made a similar mistake with his own military, and he sure as shit paid for it in the long run.
The amazing thing is Stalin as opposed to Hitler swallowed his pride and realized he had to let his generals command. He'd pressure them timetable wise when it came to launching attacks without regard for life but he would actually fucking listen to them.
 
The amazing thing is Stalin as opposed to Hitler swallowed his pride and realized he had to let his generals command. He'd pressure them timetable wise when it came to launching attacks without regard for life but he would actually fucking listen to them.
So did Hitler when his generals weren't braindead retarded and suggesting repeating WW1 on the Western front instead of actually winning. The fags wanted to spend over 2 years and entirety of German equipment just to destroy netherlands, belgium, and luxembourg
 
I still don't understand why Prigozhin is so zealously repeating Strelkov's takes, even though they had beef over him talking shit not so long ago.
It seems there's a fine tradition for Pro-Russsian warlords to start shitting on their higher-ups once their relevance starts to decline.
 
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Happy Operation Bagration 79th anniversary. 79 years ago the Soviet offensive meant to kick the Axis forces out of all of Byelorussia (Belarus) commenced today. The offensive also retook land in Ukraine and the Baltics with it pushing deeply into Poland with it reaching the Vistula. The offensive had begun specifically on the 3rd anniversary of the start of Operation Barbarossa.
 
So did Hitler when his generals weren't braindead retarded and suggesting repeating WW1 on the Western front instead of actually winning. The fags wanted to spend over 2 years and entirety of German equipment just to destroy netherlands, belgium, and luxembourg
True. Hitler's initiative in the beginning was very effective, but the key problem with him is two fold. One he had an OBESSIVE complex about taking and holding land. So much so that he'd send entire units to hold and fortify strategically useless areas for the entirety of the war like the channel islands. (great gig if your a german solider though)

Secondly and most importantly, he was very VERY bad at allowing his forces to retreat. The phrase not one step back is popularly associated with the Russians, but Hitler took it to another level. Most general's were simply not allowed the tactical flexibility to strategically retreat, especially on the Russian front. To the point where popular and proven generals were sacked for going against Hitler's directives to save their men against hopeless odds. Even Rommel got shit for retreating against Hitler's orders. It essentially forced troops to either fight to the last man or retreat well past the point they should have.

Stalingrad is the number one example. thousands of surrendered troops lost that could have been pulled out to fight another day. Another one I remember was in france when the allies invaded. A lot of troops were lost defending the various ports and docks because they were not allowed to breakout even when the allies made a foothold at the beaches and started to encircle them.
 
Before you scream about conspiracies like the good little NPC you are, let me remind you this is not secret but freely acknowledged, to the point Hollywood made a sappy and convoluted 2007 film with Tom Hanks about Operation Cyclone, the official name for the CIA glow op to arm and finance the Afghan mujaheddin in Afghanistan. Look it up on cia.gov, its all there.
You don't even need to look it up, they just straight-up posted that shit on Twitter

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Do you ever get kind of a bad feeling in your gut from the way Russians treat the Ukrainian EPWs? This is going to be a pretty big hot take, but I just don't like it.

So, it wasn't but a year ago that we had Russian EPWs being shot in the knees and Ukrainian soldiers posting it on Twatter to brag about it while the typical scum of muttmurican politics clapped about it. Any severely wounded Russian soldier was just executed on the spot, and you had "people" here, mostly baby boomers, arguing unironically that this was fine because "Russia was the aggressor." This in spite of the fact that most of the people that were furiously clapping were the same people who had found ways to sit out the Vietnam, Gulf War, or GWOT wars, or had found ways to participate in them from well behind those disgusting infantrymen and those weird things they called COPs. It just seems like at the very least, there should be some reprisal. For instance, I'd have a policy of refusing medical treatment for any Ukrainian officers and all foreign forces until the persons involved in such actions were adequately punished.
 
zelinsky is saying there is going to be an attack by "Terrorists" on the nuke plant.
https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1671805650106474497


I have a really bad feeling about this. Everything is telling me that's the last play to be had. They have nothing else to force NATO into the conflict. And it could all snowball into a clusterfuck if Russia cant protect the plant.


They will try something, there's no doubt of that on my mind. This is false flag 101. But what are their chances of success? and by success I mean starting a meltdown or something that could seriously pollute the surrounding area?






Do you ever get kind of a bad feeling in your gut from the way Russians treat the Ukrainian EPWs? This is going to be a pretty big hot take, but I just don't like it.

So, it wasn't but a year ago that we had Russian EPWs being shot in the knees and Ukrainian soldiers posting it on Twatter to brag about it while the typical scum of muttmurican politics clapped about it. Any severely wounded Russian soldier was just executed on the spot, and you had "people" here, mostly baby boomers, arguing unironically that this was fine because "Russia was the aggressor." This in spite of the fact that most of the people that were furiously clapping were the same people who had found ways to sit out the Vietnam, Gulf War, or GWOT wars, or had found ways to participate in them from well behind those disgusting infantrymen and those weird things they called COPs. It just seems like at the very least, there should be some reprisal. For instance, I'd have a policy of refusing medical treatment for any Ukrainian officers and all foreign forces until the persons involved in such actions were adequately punished.
Mmm, that might not be half a bad idea to go after the officers. Might make them think twice on ordering some things.

Foreign forces and regular infantry need to be treated decently when captured. The more infantry you treat justly the more incentive you give them to surrender. Frankly im surprised I haven't heard of them setting up someone as a mouth piece to talk to the Ukrainians and ask them to give up like tokyo rose. It's worth a shot to plant some measure of doubt in their minds.

As for the mercenary's and NATO I figure you can get some kind of blackmail and or embarrassment out of confirming their existence. plus prisoner exchanges.
 
an OBESSIVE complex about taking and holding land
"Keep men, lose land; the land can be retaken. Keep land and both men and land are lost" - Mao
As for the mercenary's and NATO I figure you can get some kind of blackmail and or embarrassment out of confirming their existence. plus prisoner exchanges.
One clever thing the Donbass republics did was to have far worse punishments for mercs than Russia. It forced the UK to engage with a nation it didn't formally recognise.
 
zelinsky is saying there is going to be an attack by "Terrorists" on the nuke plant.
https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1671805650106474497


I have a really bad feeling about this. Everything is telling me that's the last play to be had. They have nothing else to force NATO into the conflict. And it could all snowball into a clusterfuck if Russia cant protect the plant.


They will try something, there's no doubt of that on my mind. This is false flag 101. But what are their chances of success? and by success I mean starting a meltdown or something that could seriously pollute the surrounding area?
Ahh yeah, the good old prepare the population for war by drip feeding it and riling up the population over time with a daily 2 minute hate. We've seen the process of dehumanization and social conditioning on a large scale occur for a long ass time with the term "orc" now becoming common practice as what can be best described as a slur. - The goal as such being to villainize a group such the people support action against it. This basically occured in the lead up to the start of the war in 2022 with the glowies stating that Russia was preparing a series of false flag attacks which means the glowies have probably planned for it. Most of the tranny jingoists will likely find a way to sit it out for mental health reasons and they can scream on twitter about how it's actually a good thing. Why it's good for the cis white men to die in the name of trans rights and how it makes up for the experiences trannies have been through. Gotta fight for big homo whilst herr zelensky screams for a total war with a plethora of wonder weapons because we all know how well a Storm Shield or Leopard 2 will do against a couple thousand nukes. Sure, some may not work. It's normal for ICBMs and rockets to have launch failures. Maybe only 10% of the warheads will work, who the hell knows at this point. - But I don't want to find out as that's still millions dead over a pointless war that's fueled on as war supplements the boomers Viagra.
 
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