Titanic tourist submersible goes missing with search under way

[Secret Asshole]

There's been a lot of stupid, vile, and self-destructive ideas that have taken hold over American businesses the past few decades, and the Silicon Valley Startup mentality has got to be one of the worst.

Its equally retarded because all Zuck did was make Facebook (from which he stole from people to rake in the profits himself), so breaking things in that space didn't really herald any major consequences other than shitty social media sites or failed sources of revenue. Not actual harm.

Now its applied from everything to submersibles to fucking lab grown meat to drugs to medical testing, shit I'm pretty sure he didn't fucking intend for that methodology to be used on. And its having disastrous consequences.

 

[DootSkeleton]

I don't because he went went to the Titanic 37 times as a leading researcher and knew what a sub should be like and yet he saw that piece of trash that was the Titan and thought it's worth paying fucking $ 250.000.

The kid was the only one who didn't deserve it. But the rest was a bunch of idiots with way too much money.

I was under the impression the scientist wasn't a paying customer and wasn't a submarine expert but was rather an expert on the crash site. If he was an expert on subs or paid to go (or both) then I no longer feel sorry for him because he was being a humongous fucking retard.

 

[RodgerDodger]

It's interesting, in that picture the glass in the port hole is missing. I wonder if there were multiple points of failure. Not only the glass, but also the carbon fibre? How would it work if the glass popped, what would happen to the fibre or vice versa? 's interesting, in that picture the glass in the port hole is missing. I wonder if there were multiple points of failure. Not only the glass, but also the carbon fibre? How would it work if the glass popped, what would happen to the fibre or vice versa?

It's a possible sign that the failure was not at the porthole, but probably the carbon fiber hull.

In deep diving vessels the portholes are beveled in such a way that the outside pressure seats the glass or acrylic more solidly into the frame. they assume a high pressure differential pushing from outside to in. but they don't need or have. a lot of strength when that differential reverses. The implosion would have caused a pressure wave that popped the glass out like a champaign cork.

There are 2 things that lead me to suspect this. One is the front titanium dome looks fairly intact. If the window was the failure point we would expect it to be mangled. And two. Rush apparently dropped both the ballast and the landing skids before it imploded. This indicates something spooked him. Either loud crackling sounds from the hull, or his supermagical audio hull sensors going off. A failure of the window or end caps would not have given a warning.

A previous passenger reported some loud cracking noises from the hull 2 dives prior that Rush dismissed as "don't worry we still have 5 inches more carbon fiber that needs to crack through" when asked about delamination. So I'm betting that the investigation is focusing on the carbon fiber. Or where it attached to the end rings.

Five Fools, One Coffin.

 

[1962s Godzilla]

So, they imploded a coffin made out of carbon fiber (which is the new meme in tech), screwed the screen to the hull, ignored tons of safety regulations remaining unpunished, killed 5 people including the CEO, drove the whole tube with the controller i give my cousin when he wants to play Mortal Kombat...

And their website still cheerful and merry without a single comma as to what happened.

https://oceangateexpeditions.com/

 

[Oxyjen]

The implosion would have caused a pressure wave that popped the glass out like a champaign cork.

The end dome was also separate from the titanium ring, I notice. It had been bolted on with 17 small-ish fasteners, threaded into the ring.

So, either the recovery crew unbolted it for some reason before we see it being moved, or, the pressure spike was enough to blow out the porthole, AND snap all the bolts as it blew the entire door off. The presumably the ring itself separated from the tube as it crumpled.

Violent stuff either way.

I’m impressed with the French ROV thing. It got down there, visually found the wreckage, inspected it, and then hauled it up piece by piece in the space of a few days. Just goes to show nobody needs to be going down there for rubberneck tourism reasons. We have the technology.

And their website still cheerful and merry without a single comma as to what happened.

Stockton Rush took the CMS password to his grave.

 

[The Ugly One]

Imagine making a protein shake with a plucked chicken and your blender craps out halfway. But with bits of clothes, undergarments, and possible a cock ring or Prince Rupert.

I always take the underwear off the chicken before I blend it.

 

[Procrastinhater]

I was under the impression the scientist wasn't a paying customer and wasn't a submarine expert but was rather an expert on the crash site. If he was an expert on subs or paid to go (or both) then I no longer feel sorry for him because he was being a humongous fucking retard.

He wasn't, he was just there as the "guide" part of the "guided tour" he was supposed to explain stuff about the wreck and point out any interesting things they saw on or around the ship.
That said he'd been involved in numerous dives on Titanic, you'd have thought he'd have noticed the many things wrong with the sub, compared to something like the Alvins Cameron used, but I guess he trusted that the people operating it knew what they were doing.

 

[Sand Mega]

One fun thing I noticed is that people have been memeing the Iron Lung movie trailer because of this

But besides the jokes, they do make the interesting point of the movie maybe getting cancelled becaused of the tragedy

Obviously, the trailer and the game it's based of came out way before this happpened, but not only would the normie audiences not know this, but the incident in general would take the air of the conversation when it comes to this movie, anyway it would be interesting to see if how it would affect the film, if at all.

 

[mindlessobserver]

As far as the commentariat goes about James Cameron being just another Hollywood guy with opinions, I feel this is a rather unfair characterization. Manned Ocean Floor exploration is an incredibly niche line of activity, and as far as it goes Cameron is probably the only guy deserving of his masters certificate in the enterprise. More people have been in orbit then have been on the floor of the Atlantic Ocean (alive). Lets also not forget the dude literally reached the lowest elevation geologically possible on Earth, and then came back, so I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt when he claims to know what he's talking about.

This incident has probably shown there needs to be a more formal process about the whole thing. Not necessarily government, but maybe something similar to PADI, that serves as a non-governmental certification organization for scuba diving, and does everything from testing equipment to surveying commercial diving locations. Cameron is probably uniquely situated to start just such an organization.

 

[PixarsTedKennedy]

As far as the commentariat goes about James Cameron being just another Hollywood guy with opinions, I feel this is a rather unfair characterization.

I think he went to college for physics before transitioning to be a director. The dude seems extremely well educated and driven so I give him far more credit than most people, especially 99.9% of zoomers.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

I place my bets the next one could happen in Dubai.

We need a "fingers crossed" Reaction.

 

[1962s Godzilla]

We need a "fingers crossed" Reaction.

We also need that plastered shitshow of a city to just sink, it would be better for everyone.

Dubai poop snake

Where does al lthe poop go in Dubai? Millions of people and no sewers, just holding tanks and "poop" trucks. We found this lineup out on the highway and neve...

www.youtube.com

https://iigsa.org/iigsa-publications/modern-day-slavery-in-dubai/

 

[Falcon Sebben]

all in all, I still don't get the thrill. sitting 8 hours in a metal tube, to watch some poorly lit wreck of a once mighty ship through 4 inches of glass?

Bragging rights. You can say you went down there and saw it. Some people are impressed by the fact you've done something others haven't.

 

[The Ugly One]

A previous passenger reported some loud cracking noises from the hull 2 dives prior that Rush dismissed as "don't worry we still have 5 inches more carbon fiber that needs to crack through" when asked about delamination.

Of all the WTF things, this is the most WTF thing. So you made your nigger-rigged sub, and miraculously, it managed to get down to the Titanic and back multiple times without failing. But you know it's not good for infinity dives. You know that at some point, it's gonna make its last dive. If that last dive isn't, "when I hear the hull cracking," when the fuck is it gonna be? You've heard it crack with your own ears. You know it now has hull integrity issues. How is that not the time to replace it? Well, now we know the answer. He thought he could wait for clear evidence of impending, catastrophic failure, then surface in time before the pressure collapsed the sub and killed them all.

 

[BikeLock]

Of all the WTF things, this is the most WTF thing. So you made your nigger-rigged sub, and miraculously, it managed to get down to the Titanic and back multiple times without failing. But you know it's not good for infinity dives. You know that at some point, it's gonna make its last dive. If that last dive isn't, "when I hear the hull cracking," when the fuck is it gonna be? You've heard it crack with your own ears. You know it now has hull integrity issues. How is that not the time to replace it? Well, now we know the answer. He thought he could wait for clear evidence of impending, catastrophic failure, then surface in time before the pressure collapsed the sub and killed them all.

In his hubris he clearly thought that he could treat an underwater emergency like an in-flight emergency. He figured that he would have time to "figure it out". It turns out, the time that physics gives you to "figure it out" at depth is measured in milliseconds instead of minutes. Whoops.

 

[RodgerDodger]

A good analysis of some recovered wreckage

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Gonna need to see a pic of these supposed "human remains", for science.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Has anyone mentioned the name of the company itself? It's clear this incident has been producing a lot of commotion in many spheres. With the trend of suffixing some big fiasco where shenanigans could be at play with "-gate," it's quite funny this company has that in its name preemptively. It's not an Oceangate yet, but it appears to be getting there since big money is at play.

 

[AnOminous]

If it breaks after he sells it, the company who bought it would be blamed, and his name would barely be mentioned. The company that bought it might also be more afraid of being sued than he is and scrap the sub, and then that will never make the news.

That’s not how tort lawyers work. They sue you, they sue the previous owner, they sue the manufacturer, or more than one if they can, they sue whoever made the parts, they sue some dude you talked to in a bar, they sue your mom, etc.

 

[Marc]

Gonna need to see a pic of these supposed "human remains", for science.

I'll be surprised if there's enough of them left to cover a dick. Any meat recovered is more likely to be the sea life unlucky enough to have been scooting by.