US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Still Exceptional]

Hell Trump's abortion policy is pretty much "Safe, legal and rare" plucked straight from one of the only real Ws Bill had in calming down the Abortion debate. The entire reason Abortion became a hot topic again is because the Democrats decided to platform crazy baby killers straight out of a 1980's evangelical strawman about pro-choice and now we have blue hair feminists trying to firebomb pro-life clinics that offer mother support.

My stance was the same as Trump's. Safe, legal, and RARE. Because newsflash, abortion is not a GOOD thing. It's a necessary evil that should only ever to be used in extreme circumstances like rape, incest, or if the life of the mother is threatened.
But that's not how it turned out, is it? No, as it turns out the overwhelming majority of abortions are American whores who have no modesty, no shame, no self respect, and too little impulse control to use a fucking condom.

Now my stance on abortion is: Ban that shit and tell the hoes to keep their legs closed.

 

[northstar747]

Hell Trump's abortion policy is pretty much "Safe, legal and rare" plucked straight from one of the only real Ws Bill had in calming down the Abortion debate.

Trump is a 90's democrat.

I honest to god used that term about abortion last year and got dog piled about stigmatizing women.

I even explained to those people that that kinda extrem rhetoric hurts their position especially since obama and crew never enshrine RvW in federal law.

 

[Glowing In The Streets]

Oh no Trumpbros. We got cocky and now Desantis won the pizzas

Nobody outpizzas De Santis

Spoiler: Spoiler

 

[NickDigger]

If dumb whores want to abuse abortion rights to kill fetuses so they can get on the cock carousal without spreading their shit genetics then so be it, they made their choice. Less retards born, less money wasted on taking care of someone else's genetic refuse they won't even be brought up in a stable household, the better.

Now my stance on abortion is: Ban that shit and tell the hoes to keep their legs closed.

They aren't going to listen to you and they don't care, if they're whores, they'll be whores until they make the choice to stop. If their maternal instincts to raise a child don't kick in then their a lost cause.

 

[Scale Smerch]

Oh no Trumpbros. We got cocky and now Desantis won the pizzas
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Nobody outpizzas De Santis

Spoiler: Spoiler

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What gets me lmao'ng the most is how these retards are unironically copying Trump without even acknowledging it. His profile pic is an obvious emulation of Trump's without admitting it, and you can bet your non-existent pension he'll never admit it when some midwit journalist catches onto the strategy. These poor fuckers want all the fame and reward without any of the responsibilities purely because they're willing to deep throat the Jewish cock on demand.

 

[pylosurf]

Oh no Trumpbros. We got cocky and now Desantis won the pizzas
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Nobody outpizzas De Santis

Spoiler: Spoiler

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The pizza looks like a clown with a bright red nose and green hair. Ron looks like he want to kill himself, the guy on the left wants to cry, and the guy on the right wants to punch somebody in the face. Meanwhile, the master troll in the middle is laughing his ass off. Perfection!

 

[Meat Target]

Nice non-sequitur.

And I'm asking you to point out who exactly you think needs to be told this, in this thread. Because I haven't seen anybody fitting this description:

Or, in lieu of that, what post spurred your response.

As far as your point goes, loudly and to nobody in particular stating that anybody who doesn't immediately soak their pants in piss at the notion of the system collapsing like you apparently do, must only refrain from doing so out of ignorance, isn't the "own" you apparently think it is.

Okay, then, tough guy. Don't take my word for it.

Rather, take from a guy who taught SERE courses in the military.

Still not good enough? Too many mean facts for you?

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

Nobody outpizzas De Santis
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Same energy

 

[pwnest injun]

If dumb whores want to abuse abortion rights to kill fetuses so they can get on the cock carousal without spreading their shit genetics then so be it, they made their choice. Less retards born, less money wasted on taking care of someone else's genetic refuse they won't even be brought up in a stable household, the better.

I used to feel this way, but I'm sick of living in a culture of death. The second hand effects of living alongside scum, who kill their children for precious convenience, are poisonous and intolerable. No man is an island, etc.

 

[NickDigger]

Abortion will filter some of the scum. Personally I'm tired of tolerating being around adults who won't show any agency in their lives and expect everyone to clean up after them.

 

[Bakarina]

Abortion will filter some of the scum. Personally I'm tired of tolerating being around adults who won't show any agency in their lives and expect everyone to clean up after them.

We've been more or less tolerant of abortion since the 70s and the only thing that's occurred is the Overton window moving from "unfortunate but sometimes necessary" to "shout your abortions and be proud and if you don't you're a bigot".

Plus there's all those women that use abortion as a type of powerplay against men.

 

[God of Nothing]

We've been more or less tolerant of abortion since the 70s and the only thing that's occurred is the Overton window moving from "unfortunate but sometimes necessary" to "shout your abortions and be proud and if you don't you're a bigot".

Plus there's all those women that use abortion as a type of powerplay against men.

women just love killing children, if the recent articles are anything to go by

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I used to feel this way, but I'm sick of living in a culture of death. The second hand effects of living alongside scum, who kill their children for precious convenience, are poisonous and intolerable. No man is an island, etc.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/20-million-black-babies-have-been-aborted-since-roe-v-wade-where-is-the-equity-in-that/ar-AA12X6xk

Nearly 40% of women who seek abortions are African American

This likely means that over 20 million black babies have been aborted during the past 50 years.

It’s also approximately 45% of the current black American population of 45 million. And, had these children been born, blacks would represent about 20% of the total population

It's safe to say that things would be far, far worse without Roe v. Wade and those extra 17-18 million Democrat voters (and their own chilluns). Remember, 250,000 to 300,000 of those black people would be in prison at any given point (around 1.5% of all blacks are in prison). Margaret Sanger was right.

 

[pwnest injun]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/20-million-black-babies-have-been-aborted-since-roe-v-wade-where-is-the-equity-in-that/ar-AA12X6xk

It's safe to say that things would be far, far worse without Roe v. Wade and those extra 17-18 million Democrat voters (and their own chilluns). Remember, 250,000 to 300,000 of those black people would be in prison at any given point (around 1.5% of all blacks are in prison). Margaret Sanger was right.

What if we outlaw blacks also?

 

[Betonhaus]

What if we outlaw blacks also?

Many of them have been born here and cannot be exiled to another country, so our options are limited.

 

[Canned Ham]

Many of them have been born here and cannot be exiled to another country, so our options are limited.

If we can forge a birth certificate for Barry Soetoro, we can forge birth certificates for all negroes.

 

[Betonhaus]

If we can forge a birth certificate for Barry Soetoro, we can forge birth certificates for all negroes.

...that wasn't the final solution I was thinking of, but sure that'll work.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

Which question did I raise that you find frivolous? Do the complexities of reality offend you?

I just want everyone here to have good information and know what they're getting into. Real life is not a game. I would be doing everyone a disservice if I were saying "Yeah! We can take 'em! There will be no consequences for hellraising, cuz we're the good guys!"

With no disrespect I can understand the concept, but some of us are fully well aware who prefer such outcomes. The alternative is slow burn and the outcome ends up even worse, or more factors lead to the deaths of many innocence, or families in far worse ways *potentially. All actions have consequences, it's only a matter if you consider the weighted option of acceleration superior choice for the context of modern era.

Comfort and easy survivability is good but not if the line in the sand is crossed that leads to inevitable demise. Many will argue we're not at that precipice yet, but the issue comes down to throughout history by the time it's too late, fate is set, and there is no take backs if you wait too long in such a concept. Often there's no major penalty for preparing or such an act going early, there is always a price for waiting too late though.

In regards to losing, allowing enemies to play more pieces grants them more advantages and paths to solidifying ultimate control the more time they are granted. Generally in any event in real life letting anything gain traction for long term/late game plans will always make the issue worse over time or in simple terms the "win con" far less likely to be possible in such an event. *Using the term loosely for win con.

Either way, there is a thought out argument for and opposed and not just merely COD wannabe larpers the musical despite what some think. I'm sure some are, but I thought I'd clarify some of us have thought at great lengths about it.

You said what I could not. Thank you. Protagonist syndrome is real, and the chance you get your happy ending is only one possibility of many. I would rather suffer a decade than risk my nephews and my family dying from some random bomb strike. That is the price I am willing to pay. America has survived it's fair share. It'll survive a few more years. With luck, another 100 years. Anyone saying otherwise is dooming.

They could die from a random illegal that decides he wants your nephews kidneys for supper, or a criminal let out of the justice system by democrats, or a plethora of current events just as well. The issue with one potential outcome doesn't dismiss the other negative outcomes of "waiting" It only matters in the amount of variables for both situations such as if you think the slow burn will have less chances of death vs. the alternative. America is barely America anymore, the land is fine, the culture and more is far removed from what it was.

Also I doubt most people are like boomers or cold war fanficers who think no matter who wins it'll be good outcome or that the new rulers or domineers won't have their own corruption issues, or be just as problematic as the previous to some extent. Happy endings are for fairy tales and most with double digit IQ or above realize this throughout most events in life. It's just the matter in the multitude of outcomes do those beneficially seem more profitable then the current trajectory.

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Both of you aren't wrong about protagonist syndrome, but that is mainly by boomers and R/donald types who in reality wouldn't probably fight in the first place, which is often in their delusions of grandeur . They want others to fight and believe "good always triumphs" fantasies. Again perpetuated by big man in little tents routine. Those kind of people should never declare any such action as they are bluffing thinking they can scare others into a submissive defeat. (The powers that be to be specific)

In a sense I'd rather take a risk of dying for an acceleration event now than a guaranteed death via slow burn and variables surrounding it later. The more variables the more risks, the more risks the less chance you have any chance of "winning" or setting a goal.

*Note: Not fedposting talking hypothetically of such concepts.

Okay, then, tough guy. Don't take my word for it.

Rather, take from a guy who taught SERE courses in the military.

Still not good enough? Too many mean facts for you?

I think both of you are arguing past each other. You're not being told you're claim is wrong, merely that @LurkTrawl feels most within these boards are well aware of the danger and many proposing said solution aren't naive tards and that many hoping for that solution see the long game and risk/reward of said action/outcome.

Again, I mean no disrespect for your mere warning but you are already preaching to the choir whether they are for acceleration or not within these boards I would assume. With a few exceptions here and there.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

 

[Jonah Hill poster]