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tehpope said:
Mormons are natural preppers. And the state is pretty high up in the mountains. At least 4000 ft.
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Prepping as you call it is what allowed the pioneers to survive here in the first place. The traditions just kinda got passed down lol. We'd be able to hold out for a while, even if the mountain passes got cut off.
 
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mandatorylurk said:
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The judge finds so much evidence the government agencies censored conservatives online with big tech there is an injunction to prohibit it before the trial even begins. Joepedo will waddle on stage somewhere tomorrow and say censorship is a good thing.
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Here's the article referenced.

The Trump-appointed judge’s move could upend years of efforts to enhance coordination between the government and social media companies.
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Don't be shy, WaPo. Tell us how you really feel.
 
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davids877 said:
Luckily they can just tell the Californians to drink out of the Great Salt Lake and then there will be plenty of fresh water left for the normal people.
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It depends on snowfall honestly. It stores up in the mountains then melts and fills the resivours. We've implemented water saving programs, and if we have as good of a snow fall as last year/this year, we're set.
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Here's the article referenced.



Don't be shy, WaPo. Tell us how you really feel.
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Imagine having to be told NOT to censor your own people on public records. Shit has to st8ng
 
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tehpope said:
Mormons are natural preppers. And the state is pretty high up in the mountains. At least 4000 ft.
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They also have a giant salt field as well.

Like an entire desert made of salt.

northstar747 said:
No one is leaving the dollar.

Again BRICS for over 10 years has "talked" about leaving the dollar, countries "talk" about settling payment in other than dollars, this talks are always about some small fixed amount...and it never fucking happens.

China's belt and road gave out billions of....DOLLARS... not YUAN NOT EURO, DOLLARS.

Fucking hell you ever had that one guy whose totally gonna go on a diet and eat clean and run that marathon he posts from his twitter while he eats morning noon at night at mcdonalds? That fucking brics man.

The BRIC countries also have national debts that are in dollars, so to leave the dollar they would need to get enough dollars to pay those debts back, or default. So lets say brazil decides to not use the dollar but still needs to get dollars to pay back those dollar denominated debts.

The dollar did not rise artificially, the EURO dollar system grew organically because the US had the fucking biggest navel, and security. Before that it was the English Pound because the while british empire thing.

Yes the US monitary policey is fucking stupid, the fucking PPP had like half a trillion dollars in fraud so 500 billion of new money hit the system. along with other shit.

But I also think us regulators like the FED etc would rather not have to deal with other countries central banks, of the Eurodollar system didnt exist it would make the feds job easier.
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I heard the same fearmongering about BRICS in the late 2000s.

I think its a fearmongering meme by the Western Corporate Press to hide how much the G7 and WTO and IMF and other Westoid Neoliberal organizations fuck everyone up the wazoo.
 
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MrJokerRager said:
They also have a giant salt field as well.

Like an entire desert made of salt.
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It's the second saltiest body of water on earth, only over taken by the Dead Sea. Only Brine Shrimp, the ones you get in those sea monkey kits, live in it. It's quite profitable. We also have the world's deepest copper mine here, and a fair bit of uranium, not to mention gold. We could operate independently if we needed to.
MrJokerRager said:
I heard the same fearmongering about BRICS in the late 2000s.

I think its a fearmongering meme by the Western Corporate Press to hide how much the G7 and WTO and IMF and other Westoid Neoliberal organizations fuck everyone up the wazoo.
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I see the dollar taking a hit, but it isn't dying. Too many countries rely on it.
 
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northstar747 said:
No one is leaving the dollar.

Again BRICS for over 10 years has "talked" about leaving the dollar, countries "talk" about settling payment in other than dollars, this talks are always about some small fixed amount...and it never fucking happens.

China's belt and road gave out billions of....DOLLARS... not YUAN NOT EURO, DOLLARS.

Fucking hell you ever had that one guy whose totally gonna go on a diet and eat clean and run that marathon he posts from his twitter while he eats morning noon at night at mcdonalds? That fucking brics man.

The BRIC countries also have national debts that are in dollars, so to leave the dollar they would need to get enough dollars to pay those debts back, or default. So lets say brazil decides to not use the dollar but still needs to get dollars to pay back those dollar denominated debts.

The dollar did not rise artificially, the EURO dollar system grew organically because the US had the fucking biggest navel, and security. Before that it was the English Pound because the while british empire thing.

Yes the US monitary policey is fucking stupid, the fucking PPP had like half a trillion dollars in fraud so 500 billion of new money hit the system. along with other shit.

But I also think us regulators like the FED etc would rather not have to deal with other countries central banks, of the Eurodollar system didnt exist it would make the feds job easier.
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You know what the US defecit is? 1 trillion dollars that's 1 trillion dollars in bonds that need to be sold yearly to break even and not default. The USD is backed by trust so the more unlikely it seems that the US will payback its debt the harder it is to sell debt.

The USD is in such demand because it is required for the trade of gas and just recently you have nations like Saudi Arabia and gas comapnies in France use Yuan instead of dollars. All of that has recently happened in the span of a few years which would have been unthinkable in the 2010s the army also wasn't a joke in the 2010s or at least could appear intimidating. You think countries like China or Russia towed the line all those years because they like the US? Look at the fucking money velocity it ain't pretty.

Then you had the US pulling the rug from under Russia which made other nations fearful of also having their money taken away for ideological reasons.

The amount of USD being traded globally has also fallen to a record low of 58%, you have the Fed Reserve Chairman testifying infront of congress about the danger of the dollar being knocked off its throne. You had congress asking Janet Yellen to make a plan for a scenario where China dumps its bonds. Argentina is so desperate for cash they are letting bank accounts be opened for Yuan.

To deny the dollar is on shaky grounds and not in danger is idiotic. You don't fix a problem by shoving your head in the dirt and ignoring it. All of this is discussed out in the open by the central banks and government if you pay the least bit of attention it isn't a Zerohedge conspiracy theory. Historically any Fiat currency has fallen no amount of hubris changes that. The USD might be around for a longtime but it can lose all its buying power.
 
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The USD is in such demand because it is required for the trade of gas and just recently you have nations like Saudi Arabia and gas comapnies in France use Yuan
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The USD or Eurodollar is in demand because its used to settle more than energy. Why did china do the belt and road in dollars and not yuan?

How much oil did the house of saud sell in yuan as a percentage of totall sales?

I just googled saudi arabia and yuan and all the articles have the words "could" and "consider" again when it fucking happens I ll take note.

yes the US creates more money than it should, Yes the global order of US hegimony is over, its over not because of CIA, NiGGER homosexuals.

Its over because it existed to fight the USSR when the USSR fell we got the deflationary conditions of the 1990s where you had a billion chink hands ready to work for basically nothing, and you had all the raw materials of the USSR HITTING THE MARKETS AT THE SAME TIME.

But since the fall of USSR the US leadership and military has bit by bit been moving away from the US lead security order.

I would think kiwis here would like that, let Iran and the Saudi's duke it out.

Fuck like the above shit about fucking Mormons and Utah, America has some seriously OP geography the largest swath of arable land, with a fucking 1000's of miles of river networks to move the fucking food around. We have enough fucking land to metabolize to avoid so much shit, the fucking mormons went out and settle the west and were/still allowed to do their fucking thing.

Dont like the homo faggot antifa bug hives? leave and yes I know people are doing that. Those shitty places are gonna have to adapt or just suffer.

America can frack our own oil we can use mexico for labor, fuck mexican labor is moving up the value added chain we can pull other central american countries into the supply chain.

The global fucking supply chain is over.

China can only exist in its past form because of the US lead order and if it thinks it can step up and allow global trade at the scale the americans did I would love to fucking see that.
 
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The USD or Eurodollar is in demand because its used to settle more than energy. Why did china do the belt and road in dollars and not yuan?

How much oil did the house of saud sell in yuan as a percentage of totall sales?

I just googled saudi arabia and yuan and all the articles have the words "could" and "consider" again when it fucking happens I ll take note.

yes the US creates more money than it should, Yes the global order of US hegimony is over, its over not because of CIA, NiGGER homosexuals.

Its over because it existed to fight the USSR when the USSR fell we got the deflationary conditions of the 1990s where you had a billion chink hands ready to work for basically nothing, and you had all the raw materials of the USSR HITTING THE MARKETS AT THE SAME TIME.

But since the fall of USSR the US leadership and military has bit by bit been moving away from the US lead security order.

I would think kiwis here would like that, let Iran and the Saudi's duke it out.

Fuck like the above shit about fucking Mormons and Utah, America has some seriously OP geography the largest swath of arable land, with a fucking 1000's of miles of river networks to move the fucking food around. We have enough fucking land to metabolize to avoid so much shit, the fucking mormons went out and settle the west and were/still allowed to do their fucking thing.

Dont like the homo faggot antifa bug hives? leave and yes I know people are doing that. Those shitty places are gonna have to adapt or just suffer.

America can frack our own oil we can use mexico for labor, fuck mexican labor is moving up the value added chain we can pull other central american countries into the supply chain.

The global fucking supply chain is over.

China can only exist in its past form because of the US lead order and if it thinks it can step up and allow global trade at the scale the americans did I would love to fucking see that.
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That's the thing though there doesn't have to be some huge new currency to take the dollars place. What can happen is the world splintering and returning to a multi-polar system where different currencies are backed by commodities instead of dollars that would be traded amongst allied nations, each currency that makes gains and is used more is a hit to the dollar and a reduction in the need for a dollar or a "death by a thousand cuts". It's like I said the dollar will still be around and used by whoever wants to side with the US but it will lose it's spending power.

I mentioned Saudi Arabia because they are so vital to the Petro-dollar system and granted yes they are merely playing with the idea. What should be worrying is how much Saudi Arabia is cozying up with China to the point that the Middle East is seeming to unify against the US.

You have other countries making very real efforts to step away from the dollar like Japan recently dumped a ton of bonds and China buying significantly less bonds because they no longer trust the dollar will hold value. The more people that shy away from the dollar is less people purchasing bonds. This wouldn't be as big of a deal but the US debt is already at an absurd level to the point that the deficit is at 1 trillion dollars a year. The bank failures have made it less likely that the banks will want to purchase bonds so that means we'll need more foreign bond purchasers than ever. Places like China or Russia see this and are attacking while the US is vunerable.
 
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northstar747 said:
Fuck like the above shit about fucking Mormons and Utah, America has some seriously OP geography the largest swath of arable land, with a fucking 1000's of miles of river networks to move the fucking food around. We have enough fucking land to metabolize to avoid so much shit, the fucking mormons went out and settle the west and were/still allowed to do their fucking thing.
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I basically agree with your entire post, but some context  why we went west. We kept getting shot at. And after a long journey, we finally just said "hey, they can't get us here!" when we found Utah. There definitely is a lot a land to colonize, but places out here in the rockies, unless you've been terraforming it like we have for 200 years, and kinda were forced to stay out here, you're in for a rough time. On the plus side, most of the resources are un tapped
 
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