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[Markass the Worst]

I really have yet to understand how a bus or fucking TRAIN can stop faster than a car, and how walking drunk in front of one of those (they have REALLY BIG AND BAD HOODS) isn't going to result in a thin red line.

oh wait it does lol

Because if you downsize a bus or train, that would be "killing public transit" because all the previous excess capacity was "inducing demand" even though it doesn't work that way and you can't just spawn in riders from nowhere like that.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I really have yet to understand how a bus or fucking TRAIN can stop faster than a car, and how walking drunk in front of one of those (they have REALLY BIG AND BAD HOODS) isn't going to result in a thin red line.

oh wait it does lol

Train stop faster than a car? Lol. Especially these high speed trains they want. And if they jam on the brakes too hard, they risk derailment. If you're walking on the tracks, you deserve the Darwin award. A car at least has the choice of swerving, even if that means damaging the car itself if there are no other options. A bus really doesn't have that option, because passengers.

 

[Non-breath oblige]

It looks like Skyline will be a flop, as ridership was down 90% yesterday (1,245 yesterday, compared to ~18k riders on July 4), after the free trial period ended, and riders need to pay to get on.

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Compared to other rail lines elsewhere, how bad of a flop is Skyline so far?

Imo it was doomed to flop from the start. Maaaaybe we'll see more ridership once school is back in session but I'm not getting my hopes up. Cost overruns and delays and government bureaucracy kekw aside, my main criticism of the rail is the route.

1) The current available route as it is doesn't take you to a whole lot of places, and is generally limited to the west side. The east terminus is Aloha Stadium, which has been permanently closed since COVID, and the west terminus East Kapolei is still a 20 minute walking distance to the nearest shopping center.

2) Segment 2 does include the airport, but it doesn't go to the places it should be taking people. For tourists, it should be at least going to the densely touristy areas like Ala Moana/Waikiki (right now a big gray TBD) but it's not even stopping at minimum Downtown. It's ending at...Middle Street/Kalihi, the friggin ghetto/industrial business side of town of all places to run out of funding. It'll eventually hit Kaka'ako, the closest area to Waikiki...in 2031. Scheduled in 2031 I might add, you just know it'll get delayed.

3) One of the biggest contributors to the traffic are commuters to UH Manoa (the big college campus) and the big private schools in the surrounding vicinity but nowhere on the current or planned route does it stop near there, requiring extra transferring to buses at some point. And at this point, it'd probably take until like the 2040-50s even if some sort of extension is approved. It is stopping by most of the other main community colleges and the smaller UH West Oahu, which I'll give some credit to that, but the main terminus I believe should've been UH Manoa.

 

[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

No, it's not "victim blaming", it's taking responsibility for your own actions.

"Victim blaming" is one of those words that are designed to shut down debate. Except when it's a troon bathroom invasion, then it's the women's fault for being there.

In the real world, contributory negligence is taken into account in courtrooms every day. Not everything is a sexual assault.

They can never explain how delivery vans, busses, ambulances, and other vehicles are going to be accident free. I've never been hit by a car as a pedestrian but a faggot on a messenger bike ran over my foot once. I guess we should ban bikes.

 

[Markass the Worst]

BlueSky recently introduced support for OGP embeds (OpenGraph Protocol), which means I can archive posts there using a service that previews the embeds like opengraph.xyz.

In response to a post by 12tone (some music youtube fag):

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Jason writes that his wife owns and runs the @notjustlikes Instagram account, not him:

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And he refuses to use Instagram because they won't give @notjustbikes to him:

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It does make me wonder how he got a wife that bought into his entire worldview to the point of running his Instagram for him

 

[quaawaa]

Although there should be a responsibility to politicians to not unnecessarily defund the police like Seattle and Portland has, but urbanists are ACAB-adjacent people who will never connect the dots between defunding and rise in crime no matter how many people are killed.

Seattle lowered speed limits city wide to 25 MPH after a few literal crackwhores wandered into the street and got hit. Ironically, the average speed in the city went up because 25 MPH is so ridiculously slow that people just speed, and once you’re speeding, you might as well go as fast as you want. Plus, it’s not like there’s any risk of being pulled over because the police are so overwhelmed by actual crime that they have no time to waste catching speeders and they’re also afraid that they’ll have a riot and end up as the next Chauvin if they pull over a black driver.

 

[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

It does make me wonder how he got a wife that bought into his entire worldview to the point of running his Instagram for him

Sorry, I had a little stroke when I read "all this threads discourse." But I imagine she tolerates it for now the way wives tolerate hobbies and gets a purse out of it now and then.

 

[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

t is stopping by most of the other main community colleges and the smaller UH West Oahu, which I'll give some credit to that, but the main terminus I believe should've been UH Manoa.

Seems like maybe they're just trying to keep the west side plebs away from tourists and people who live Manoa & west, like most transit projects do. You used to hear how transit contributed to segregation but now it can do no wrong.

What's the deal with all these projects that take forever and don't include all the obvious destinations?? I guess I should mute these criticisms because it's a poison pill and they will fail if they don't fix them.

 

[quaawaa]

It does make me wonder how he got a wife that bought into his entire worldview to the point of running his Instagram for him

Maybe she’s the family’s chauffeur which allows him to live car “free”? It doesn’t count if you’re not behind the wheel, right?

Also, there are a lot of women who would love an excuse to spend all day on Instagram. Maybe she tells him, “Sorry Honey, I’m busy posting about how evil SUVs are” when she’s actually just scrolling through her feed full of non-urbanist feminine content and posting cute selfies.

 

[LaxerBRO]

He then claimed that the protestor pulled a gun on him, but the guy puts his gun on the center console as the cyclist rides up on him

More reasonable Redditors are telling the the OP that brandishing does not apply as Oregon law only covers menacing where a gun is pointed at you.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Portland/comments/14q3st9/protestor_blocks_bus_and_bike_lanes_on_division/

Compared to other rail lines elsewhere, how bad of a flop is Skyline so far?

Come on,

You and I both know that even if the Skyline has barely any use the r/FuckCars cadre won't give a shit.

Adam Something has stated he does not care about the 10× cost overruns of the California high speed rail so why will he care about low ridership.

In fact, low ridership will just motivate them more to push to restrict lanes for personal automobiles more, banning parking spaces, or encouraging more density.

Heck, they will just argue that they are building for 20 years out know that even if you were to keep track and prove them wrong 20 years later most people won't give a shit as half of those faggots would have died of AIDS, Monkeypox, or whatever new STD is yet to be discovered.

and they’re also afraid that they’ll have a riot and end up as the next Chauvin if they pull over a black driver.

These progessive bugmen don't even understand what the hell they want.

Parking Enforcement Does Not Belong in SPD

From an bugman publication known as The Urbanist.
https://www.theurbanist.org/2022/10/17/parking-enforcement-does-not-belong-in-spd/

Dismantling structural racism within transportation means rethinking how it involves police.

From Seattle Bike Blog

These faggots don't even know what the hell they want. First, they want to police to stop enforcing minor traffic laws, then they lose their shit when police do what they want.

 

[Markass the Worst]

These faggots don't even know what the hell they want. First, they want to police to stop enforcing minor traffic laws, then they lose their shit when police do what they want.

https://archive.ph/SIgo3

https://archive.ph/8EUDO

https://archive.ph/PhyiC

Of course Seattle Bike Blog advocates for red light cameras:

Transportation departments can also increase use of red-light cameras [...] For those interested in seeing what happens to your Vision Zero numbers when you ban red-light cameras check out Houston, Texas.

Road Guy Rob has a good video going over the opposition to RLCs.

There's also redlightrobber.com (archive), it actually fits quite perfectly with the urbanists' brand of hating on traffic engineers and city planners for being retarded. (Sidenote, Mats Järlström, the person who raised awareness that yellow light timings are horrible, has a better being-sued-for-no-reason story than Charles Marohn does.)

 

[LaxerBRO]

Of course Seattle Bike Blog advocates for red light cameras:

That support for Red Light Cameras will last until Blacks start protesting as they tend to speed more.




I have significant doubt that Jason Slaughter or the people on NJB / r/FuckCars will cross a line of Black protestors and tell them that their concerns are wrong.

Basically, deny the Black mans lived experience or something.

 

[Markass the Worst]

That support for Red Light Cameras will last until Blacks start protesting as they tend to speed more.


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I have significant doubt that Jason Slaughter or the people on NJB / r/FuckCars will cross a line of Black protestors and tell them that their concerns are wrong.

Basically, deny the Black mans lived experience or something.

https://archive.ph/cvzH8

B-b-but I thought cameras weren't racist!

The next best option for making streets safer is camera enforcement — cameras aren’t racist, don’t profile, and don’t escalate a ticket to a dangerous encounter.

(from the archive you previously linked (archive))
Could it be that enforcing the law against crime disproportionately affects blacks because black people commit the most crime? No...The FBI statistics must be racist.

 

[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

I live in an area with a chain of small towns and the local campusfags are of course trying to make the whole area into this urbanism paradigm (population is under 50,000 ffs) but trying to tell me it's about race when the ONLY people you see on the enormous bikelanes are boomer dentists in spandex LARPing as Lance Armstrong. NO ONE uses them to commute.

So I guess spending huge amounts of public funds to tickle some bikefags' nuts is better spent on fighting racism than putting some paint up on an inner city school.

Of course that's bullshit. They just know that EVERYTHING has to have muh antiracist angle even if it's a massive sellout to upper-middle class whites' hobbies.

I wonder what their angle is with the junkee homeless don't sleeping all over their bike path is. Haven't heard.

 

[quaawaa]

Uh oh Dutchaboos, looks like the Dutch don't agree with you:

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/r/fuckcars member writes a wall of text and gets owned with a short four sentence response:




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/r/fuckcars member finally messed with the wrong guy (if you believe him, the video shows no wrongdoing on the part of the driver):

Halfway through the video a bus drives through the supposed "pedestrian zone".

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[teriyakiburns]

Excuse the shitty meme, but I don't know why this made me laugh.

This guy is a fucking retard. Just about every country in the world has enacted minimum height requirements for the nose of motor vehicles, in order to reduce what is known as "wrap-around distance", or how far a pedestrian's head travels if they happen to be hit by a car. Manufacturers build down to the minimum because people like low noses on their cars, but the safer design is to have a taller nose so that the head isn't accelerated down and travels less distance on impact. A high-nosed truck is actually safer than a car in a low-speed impact.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

It would probably take a few months to tell, because activity during the free period doesn't mean anything (and the people who think it does are retards).

The incomplete station shown in the news show is a bit concerning (for some reason half-finished stations tend to stay that way for a long time - Berlin had some on their underground line which took 30 years to finish and Moscow has some "planned" stations that weren't done after 50 years (IDK what their status is now).

That Skyline official wanting to extend the track without having real data yet or even finishing the infrastructure properly looks bad and almost like they're trying to fuck up.

IME the successful HS rail lines are ones that don't duplicate existing public transport, connect places which make sense and interface well with other transport.

A good example of a functioning one would be the Pretoria-Johannesburg HS rail line ("Gautrain"), which has its own bus service for areas around the stations, a station at the airport and others which are joined to existing train stations. They also don't run trains in the dead of night because these would be very empty, a waste of money, and attractive to criminals. (r/fuckcars would hate this train line, because it has a rule that bicycles are only allowed on off-peak trains and cyclists have to leave the train and wait for the next one as soon as all the seats are full).

The maxim "If you build it, they will come" does not apply to rail transport (unless you're talking about Thomas the Tank Engine enthusiasts and their sexual kinks).

Rail transit kinda works under specific circumstances, like an area that's harder/more expensive to drive in, and a cheap/free park-and-ride on the perimeter. Despite this taking cars off the road and contributing to numbers, rail advocates hate this idea because park-and-rides involve cars, and would rather have just have hive clusters around stations.

Ala Moana Center, the large and popular mall that Skyline still doesn't connect to, has plenty of free parking (for customers), so there's no reason to outsource parking like that (and frankly, retail makes for lousy transit anchors, since you have to carry your bags onto the subway and have your purchases lost/stolen).

And he refuses to use Instagram because they won't give @notjustbikes to him:

I wonder if they actually WERE considering selling @notjustbikes to him (no way Meta wouldn't budge when some money), but Jason, being the entitled cunt he is, was probably insulted they weren't kissing his ass.

Jason's at least a millionaire, and I assume NJB is a profitable venture.

 

[Yamamura]

And he refuses to use Instagram because they won't give @notjustbikes to him:

I wonder if they actually WERE considering selling @notjustbikes to him (no way Meta wouldn't budge when some money), but Jason, being the entitled cunt he is, was probably insulted they weren't kissing his ass.

Jason's at least a millionaire, and I assume NJB is a profitable venture.

I guess it's not surprising how petty he's being about this, given we know what he's like. But this happens a lot even in the corporate world. For example the domain nissan.com actually belongs to some random jewish guy who refused to sell the domain to the car company. So the official Nissan site is nissanusa.com, which is not a big deal since the first search result on google is nissanusa.com anyway and anyone who goes to the other site will obviously know it's the wrong one.

I just find it funny he thought the loophole is having his wife run the Instagram so that he can say he's boycotting it technically while also trying to reap the benefits of having a presence there. Jason strikes me as the sort of guy who wants to have his cake and eat it too when it suits his needs.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Manufacturers build down to the minimum because people like low noses on their cars

I thought it's for that low coefficient of drag too, no? For sports cars and econoboxes it serves them both positively.

 

[quaawaa]

so there's no reason to outsource parking like that (and frankly, retail makes for lousy transit anchors, since you have to carry your bags onto the subway and have your purchases lost/stolen).

Tyson's Corner Center, one of the largest malls in the United States located in Tyson's Corner, Virginia, is located right next to the WMATA Silver Line. They have a problem with "certain people" taking the train in from DC, shoplifting, and sprinting to the train to escape with their stolen goods.

WMATA, being located in DC, also has an enormous federal subsidy because of connections:

They also have enormous subsidies from the Maryland, Virginia, and DC state governments.

Of their revenue, over $80 million, or around a fifth is also not from riders:

It's not entirely fair to call all of that non-passenger revenue, as some of that is from park-and-ride garages.
$13.9 million of that is from ISPs paying to run cables along the tracks.
$10 million is from property sales to developers.
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They have ~363k daily riders:

In 2022, the system had a ridership of 93,049,300, or about 362,900 per weekday as of the first quarter of 2023, making it the second-busiest heavy rail rapid transit system in the United States, in number of passenger trips, after the New York City Subway, and the fifth-busiest in North America.

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The total subsidy per rider is $9264.26, or enough money to lease a car for every single rider (or buy one outright every few years). The federal subsidy per rider is $3208.32. I hope every federal taxpayer knows that they spend $3k per person to get politicians' staff, NGO employees, and lobbyists to work.

Keep these numbers in mind whenever urbanists complain about drivers being subsidized.