DeutscheKatze
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Furry Fandom and Drama General
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Wouldn't really matter, if it had aids on it.
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Yeah, maybe it was a bug chaser. One of those freaks who get horny at the idea of contracting and spreading STDs even going as far as to infect unwilling or clueless "participants".
I think they have a presence in the furry community though I don't know if needle stabber is some kind of bug chaser degenerate or just some weirdo poking furries with needles for... reasons?
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That kinda shit pops up every few couple years without fail. Some bugchaser/spreader goes full sociopath and starts stabbing people, or buttfucking strangers bareback in room orgies, and the idiots around him then spend the next two weeks going "oh god we must do something about bug chasers in our community!".
And then nobody does anything about bug chasers in their community.
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Well you're certainly doing your job today Mr. Sun
True & Honest Fan
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New furry rapist just dropped. Twitters are both dead but the Google Doc outlining his victims' stories is still up.
Marcie’s 2 cents
I began talking to Griff in October 2021. We ran in adjacent circles, and found each other on Twitter. I’m down for flirting on the internet. I’m down for hanging out. What I’m not down for is feeling pressured to fuck. A majority of my conversations with him were sex or kink related. We talked about meeting at cons. I took a gamble to fuck this guy. I had no idea what he looked like. Sure, I had seen his dick plenty. I saw what his body looked like on Twitter. Come time to fuck, I lost most of my interest in him. I was hesitant to commit to what we had flirted about days before the con started. I was guided into sex. I didn’t want to make a scene at a room party. It felt as though I would disappoint people. I told him my guts were upset during the remainder of BLFC 2021.May 2022 I agree to room with him at BLFC because the person I trust the most would be there with me. I felt safe enough. Mental health issues took a toll on me for the first two days of the con. Weed is something I used to combat bad headspaces. I knew I didn’t want to have sex with Griff again, yet I did it to please him. I was visibly and audibly different while getting fucked. Enough so that my most trusted person could tell that I wasn’t enjoying myself. I didn’t mention anything until months after. I didn’t want to be the one to cause “con drama.”
Anonymous
I’ve partied with Griff a few times and while nothing I’ve experienced is as bad as what others are saying, I did have some uncomfortable interactions with him that in hindsight I think are in line with how he’s been presented here.
Griff was extremely forward with me when we hung out. Several times he tried to cuddle me without getting my consent first, when I don’t think I sent any signals that I was interested. He also frequently brought up the subject of filming adult content together in ways that were uncomfortably forward. I’m pretty well known for my adult content and I’m used to people asking to work with me, so I didn’t think too hard about it at the time, but he always seemed to word it in ways that implied I had already expressed interest in filming when I hadn’t. For example: “I’ve got this idea for something we can make” “come back to my room any time you want to shoot something” etc. I got the sense he expected to make porn with me from the beginning and was annoyed it hadn’t happened yet. (I don’t film trade content with men, or with people outside the adult industry, so I don’t know what gave him that idea.) Admittedly I still hung out with him after these interactions, but they made me uncomfortable and I regret not putting up more boundaries.
Anonymous #2
Hi, I'm an anonymous adult worker who has had my own experiences with Griff backing up a lot of the behavior displayed in this document.
Griff's interactions with me started when he followed my SWer (sex worker) profile with his own. He immediately began complimenting and praising the content I was putting out as well as me. Both myself and my partner became mutuals with him. He showed both of us a lot of support which we appreciated. At the time I was a smaller account so it was nice to feel supported by someone who had more connections in adult spaces than me. We eventually began talking and I didn't realize at the time but a lot of his comments and some of our conversations ended up with him expressing how he wanted to fuck me or my partner. As a SWer this is pretty common with my content so I didn't see the red flags in it at the time.
The problems I noticed began later. Fast forward a little bit to one of the furcons I was attending. We talked about and planned a shoot. I brought up boundaries and we discussed them as well as talked about when we could shoot around my schedule. The first night of the con I arrived early due to a flight change. My room wasn't prepared so I ended up staying with Griff in his room. That night he exposed himself to me despite it not being our shoot or on set. Outside of professional work and the occasional trade shoot I don't have sex since it steps on a boundary. That night I felt pressured to be ok with what had happened as it was brushed off as something that was ok since we were going to be shooting. We had already seen eachother nude online so at the time I didn't notice how much it bothered me.
Over the course of the con I used any excuse I could to avoid him due to this. As I said I didn't realize it at the time but that first interaction made me incredibly uncomfortable and I was subconsciously avoiding him. He asked me to attend room parties he was at the weekend and continued to push for me to hang out but would back off when I would tell him I wasn't feeling well or was dealing with a lot. I convinced myself because of the language he used and how he brushed things off that my boundaries were being respected. The last night of the con I finally hung out with him again and ended up doing our shoot. Our hangout was good perfectly fine. Nothing sexual happened and I had a lot of fun. After hanging out we ended up preparing to shoot. He asked me to warm up for the shoot with him and we did. I got him hard by playing with his dick and got him "ready to shoot" off camera. I didn't think anything of it at the time since we were setting up and he needed to put a condom on, we even joked about me being the "fluffer" for our scene. I was really excited to do a trade shoot with someone bigger at the time and the language he used made me feel like everything that happened outside of shooting was ok.
During the shoot he didn't push any of my boundaries but did express how excited he was to play and fuck me repeatedly. At the time I wasn't aware but this was a big red flag. It's now clear our plans were more about him getting to fuck me then doing a scene. He expressed how much he wanted to cuddle after. I was staying in his room so as uncomfortable as that made me I went ahead and pretended to enjoy it. I had a bed to sleep on and we had just shot, I didn't think much of it.
After this our interactions were sparse. They really only amounted to him hitting me up when we were in the same space to see each other and hang out. Occasionally this would be followed with "I brought my suit" or "I brought my kink gear" when we'd only be talking about hanging out as friends. This is when I really began to avoid interacting with him and stopped promoting our video. It made me uncomfortable our only conversations became about him wanting to fuck because we had shot before. This is a pattern of behavior he's displayed a ton throughout this document. The only other time I saw him we hung out and he expressed how "sorry" he was that we didn't get to shoot. Our hangout was ok, nothing happened and he didn't pursue me sexually (since he was there with someone else he expressed in person to me about wanting to fuck.)
As I said our interactions after our initial shoot were sparse but they did include him trying to bring me and even my partner into sexual situations. I didn't realize until combing back over our interactions. I regret not being more firm with him about things. I feel taken advantage of when I was more naive about trade shoots and collab work. I wish I hadn't blocked what I felt pressured to do out for so long.
Anonymous #3
My memory on the situation is a tad fuzzy but I believe I started talking to griff around 2018, I spent a lot of time in Bay Area fur groups trying to make friends with locals and I initially approached them because I had seen explicit photos of them and decided to talk. I had exchanged photos and chatted off and on and mentioned later that I wasn’t 18 at the time, they didn’t ever voice any opposition to this so I had continued talking to them. Fast forward to 2019 this was around November I had only been 18 for more than a few months and had recently started my onlyfans, I was trying to record some videos for my page and griff agreed to help me. We had met up in a forest at the bottom of a creek I had made it clear before hand I was trying to take videos but once we had arrived he would become incredibly anxious and didn’t seem at all interested in helping me beyond getting off, This wasn’t the last time I’d have a bad interaction with griff though. I had also met them at their apartment in SJ I hung out with them after they had got off work we initially had planned on getting dinner and then having a sleepover this was just the beginning, the plans continued to change and by the time I arrived in SJ they were getting dinner and I had to wait for them to finish, eventually we met after I spent awhile trying to find their apartment. Prior to us hanging out griff had mentioned that they were going to clean their apartment but when I had arrived it was almost so overwhelming I thought I was gonna have an anxiety attack everything was knocked over and there wasn’t any blankets on the bed, i was willing to give it a shot because I didn’t want to upset them asking to leave however it just kept getting worse we were going to make a video at his place but there wasn’t any lighting so it kind of became just having sex in a dimly lit room but griffs breath was extremely rank at the time and I was really distracted because they kept trying to kiss, I had asked them if they could brush their teeth to which they got annoyed because the bathroom was outside. After we had finished it was too late and Bart wasn’t running so I was forced to sleep the night and it was painful having to be next to them the room was so uncomfortable I didn’t feel super safe because of the state of the room. My last interaction with griff was sometime in 2020 they had pressured me into getting a room to sleep with them in and after confessing to them that I wasn’t feeling great mentally and didn’t want to meet up with them, they decided to get emotionally manipulative and act depressed I had felt bad so I ended up paying for the room so they would leave me alone. I had initially started speaking to them before I was an adult and could make rational choices. a lot of the things I did were out of trying to find an escape from other trauma I was dealing with and honestly it was a regrettable time.
Anonymous #4
CW: sexual assaultMy experience with Griff went as follows. We were both at a party in October of 2022, I had never met Griff before but they seemed polite if maybe a little ignorant of personal space. In the sparse conversation we had earlier in the night they stated an interest in doing a specific sub dom scene with me as later on in the evening the party would be moved to a more sexually open setting. I expressed interest but nothing came from it until they approached me much later that night after I had become very heavily intoxicated and began, without asking consent after I had finished giving head to another person, grabbed my head and forced themself on me multiple times throughout the rest of the night. I struggled to say no in the situation (i was houseless at the time and in a fairly vulnerable state after recent trauma and they were at that point aware of that) and just went along at first, but over the course of the night I tried multiple times to break contact or relocate myself to another part of the party after becoming overwhelmed but each time they would find me and pull me back and force themself on me as if I'd agreed to it. Eventually I hid in one of the host's bedrooms for the remainder of the night. It sucked, however we were both intoxicated, I didn't know if I communicated my boundaries well enough, I didn't know the hosts as well at the time who had both know griff longer than I had known them, and I was an anxious wreck, so I stayed silent about it, defaulting to fawning when then began flirting the next day which I still regret knowing now about his track record. I broke what little contact I had with them by the end of the month, and after hearing that I wasnt the only one who had had problems with griff and talking to my partner about it we decided to ask Griff to no longer contact us or make advances toward us. My only other encounter with the was at FC23 (some time after we asked them to leave us alone), where they recognized me in line for the bar at a party and began to reach an arm around me before I had to re-communicate my boundaries to them again.
Woufe’s Experience
CW: Sexual Assault, RapeI met Griff in 2017-2018ish and he quickly became close friends with my ex and I. I believe at the time I was 19? and one of the first times i met him was at pawcon 2017. This was the first time i had ever been to an orgy, and my ex bf at the time had agreed to be in a somewhat open relationship. there wasn't much issue during this event, all of the encounters I had were fully consensual, but I noticed that Griff would always try and rope me back onto him whenever I had downtime. I think there were a couple other encounters with him but it was the same kinda deal, consensual for the most part but he was definitely very needy and clingy
We met up a couple more times as friends to a few local furbowl meets, but my next damning encounter with him was FC 2018. he would always try and talk to me in length about personal stuff unprompted, and he was always very dominating even in conversation - he would always talk over me and I could barely get input in, and eventually it led to him forcibly making out with me. it was extremely unpleasant, whenever he would make out with me it was like he was trying to stick the lower half of my face down his throat. my ex at the time was okay with it (for some reason he trusted Griff after the orgy,,idk), his perception of open relationships was always pretty skewed, like he was allowed to get some but I usually couldn't, especially if he wasn't getting anything (fucking awful in hindsight I know lmao). Griff would always bum off other people's rooms during cons as well - during this con my ex and I were rooming with my current bf, who I had just met at the time, and Griff decided to tag along. Griff and my ex both encouraged our group to drink a bunch and ushered us into parties while my ex and I were under legal drinking age. from what I recall, Griff was the biggest source of peer pressure while my ex encouraged it. he blindly sided with my ex quite a lot actually, whenever I got close to my current bf Griff and my ex would always pry me off of him, and then Griff would do the horrible vore makeout thing with with me saying "this is how a real man makes out" to some degree.
and then comes the most damning instance,,, I was single at this point and hanging out with my ex-friend in my hometown (I think this was mid 201
and Griff takes the 17 metro bus over to meet up with us and hang out. we have a pretty good time and end up crashing at my aunt's house with a few drinks (which he bought for us i believe, i think i was still below legal drinking age). we watch a couple movies and Griff pulls me into his lap while we watch them, and I keep feeling his stupid dick get hard under me. I had a couple drinks already but I knew I just wanted to hang out and not really get sexual, but I kept feeling the situation escalate beyond my control. eventually, my exfriend gets uncomfortable and leaves to go home, and immediately Griff starts vore making out with me and even though I didn't want it, I let it happen anyways. in the moment I felt obligated to because I didn't want to ruin the night, but I realized it's never supposed to be like that and my consent was definitely violated. we end up having sex in one of my aunt's spare rooms, at one point he got extremely sweaty and for me it was generally pretty unpleasant and uncomfortable. I ended up sleeping on my aunt's couch while Griff slept in that sweaty musty hotbox of a room, and i put the pieces together that I was definitely just raped by him. in the morning he was talking to my aunt casually like nothing happened last night, and I later apologized to my aunt for crashing at her house at such short notice. from what I knew Griff didn't drive, so when my mom picked me up she drove him to the metro station, while he just kept trying to push casual conversation. I'm not sure if he was even aware of how forceful he was on his part that night and during past instances, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was. and judging from the other accounts I've heard, he hasn't changed a bit since his encounters with me.no matter what he says, Griff is absolutely a chronic rapist and sex offender and he hasn't changed his ways since 2017, and I don't think he ever will.
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If you're stupid enough to fuck someone who constantly talks about sex, don't bitch about the egg on your face. You know exactly what you're getting into when you give in to a sex pest. Shut the fuck up with your degenerate selves.
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Saying "Yes" once doesn't mean that subsequent "No" responses are invalid. Refusal is still refusal, and no matter how socially awkward and inept furries may be, that doesn't excuse pursuit after refusal.
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Yeah. He's 100% a sex pest, no contest. That said, with some of these stories my only question is "what did you expect?". They sexually engaged with this guy, they roleplayed with him, and when it came time to get busy they didn't even offer a "no" or any meaningful resistance. Seeing a lot of similar stories these days "I didn't say anything, but I didn't want to fuck" well how the hell do you expect the other party to know? It's a two way street. If body language and attitude aren't enough to indicate consent, they aren't enough to indicate non-consent either. How fucking hard is it to say "STOP"? It's not like there's any power dynamic here. It's some random faggot degenerate.
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the first guy who said “he took his penis out and i felt socially pressured to touch it” where? it’s not a social thing to just grab the cock of someone you’re not interested in fucking.
that’s why furries always have this issue because the majority go to cons and meet ups with the expectation of hooking up. if you go into any nsfw telegram chat, it’s all degenerates posting how horny they are.
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Can confirm, was at an airport waiting for a flight and the guy sitting next to me at the gate was in a furry Telegram group and had all kinds of horny posting of the visual kind in full view of kids, because he was using a 10" ipad.
That was special.
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So, I came upon this wonderful individual.
tweet/arch
Author doesn't seem that bad, in comparison. Searching by authors name, nothing really horrifying turned up. No shitting dicknipples, nothing. No wonder this person doesn't even have a thread(onion).
From what I've gathered, this was prompted by some "evil nazis" saying that liking dog penis is degenerate. Degeneracy is a nazi dogwhistle, of course. But you should promote degeneracy(cub not included).
Not only that is confusing, I don't understand how is this compareable to putting people in death camps or burning entire willages because of a suspect partisan activities in the area.
There's may be some deep lore I am not aware of, but so far the only notable thing is that this person tries to come off as anti-prudish, rebellious, etc, while being less edgy than that rhymed story about helping jackalope gett down from a horse.
UPD: just noticed this
Now I feel like a bloody conformist and my day is officially megaruined.
Author doesn't seem that bad, in comparison. Searching by authors name, nothing really horrifying turned up. No shitting dicknipples, nothing. No wonder this person doesn't even have a thread(onion).
From what I've gathered, this was prompted by some "evil nazis" saying that liking dog penis is degenerate. Degeneracy is a nazi dogwhistle, of course. But you should promote degeneracy(cub not included).
Not only that is confusing, I don't understand how is this compareable to putting people in death camps or burning entire willages because of a suspect partisan activities in the area.
There's may be some deep lore I am not aware of, but so far the only notable thing is that this person tries to come off as anti-prudish, rebellious, etc, while being less edgy than that rhymed story about helping jackalope gett down from a horse.
UPD: just noticed this
Now I feel like a bloody conformist and my day is officially megaruined.
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DeutscheKatze
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i'm done with furries.
these spineless fucked up coomer people.
alphabet mafia infused dumb fucks. critical thinking and other opinions in adult debates, not possible.
who will set you up and crush the last bit of your soul and then paint you in the bad light. disgard you for any fresh 18 year old asap.
where are the normal men with brains left?
these spineless fucked up coomer people.
alphabet mafia infused dumb fucks. critical thinking and other opinions in adult debates, not possible.
who will set you up and crush the last bit of your soul and then paint you in the bad light. disgard you for any fresh 18 year old asap.
where are the normal men with brains left?
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You realized it only now?
DeutscheKatze
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No, i knew sooner.
i just lost my last respect for the ones i thought were not all fucked up.
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Gutterbunny is a troon, so it makes sense that they sperg about the farms and try to justify degenerate shit to "own the fascists", whatever that even means anymore.
Less than 1% of the fandom can be classified as being somewhat normal, the rest are varying degrees of perverted freaks.
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Only now I noticed the text on the edges of the image. "Keep furry weird and unmarketable"? But furries yearn to be accepted by normies, which is why any time there's an interview or a documentary about the fandom they always try to downplay the role of yiff art in the community.
You wanna keep furry weird and unmarketable? Tell the interviewer that you jerk off to pictures of Fox McCloud fucking Falco in the ass.
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I'm going to assume that they have fucked dogs if I saw a picture like that
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Falco fucks Fox McCloud in the ass, not the other way around, weirdo.
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It's the exact same dilemma that's been causing infighting in the LGBTQMAP+++ "community" for decades. Some members are looking for societal acceptance and understand that wagging their dicks in front of kids in public is a bad look (even if they're fine doing it in private because they're covert perverts), while others are just out-and-proud perverts who get off on forcing their shit on other people.
The out-and-proud crowd has been emboldened by the current zeitgeist, and now they're panicking every time they see any kind of backlash because they instinctively know their situation is unsustainable and the pendulum is going to take their heads off on the way back. Can't happen quickly enough.