Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

His parents are lovely but yes, very very naive. I think it's because their parents were very judgy, and therefore have tried to be the opposite, leading them to accepting too much

"nice" is the fertile soil where grooming thrives. I really wish good people weren't so conflict adverse that just tolerate bad ideas and bad behaviour until a point that the infection spreads. The road to hell is paved with good intentions

 

[Spaded Dave]

I had a friend that I kept in touch with from high school that was highly suicidal. About 4 years ago his shitty and abusive girlfriend broke up with him and then out of nowhere he blocks me and a couple other mutual friends and I didn't hear from him. I legitimately assumed he had killed himself.

Well about a year ago I get a random message from a new profile. It's him with makeup and long hair. He'd trooned out. He tells me how he's decided to start forgiving people, without really telling me or anyone else what it is we did in the first place, and wanted to get back in touch. It was weird, and the fake girl voice really doesn't fit with the naturally weirdly deep voice this motherfucker had beforehand. But he was like a brother to me in high school and for those years afterwards so I just say fuck it and let it all go and continue talking. If he's just going to be his old self with a weird(er) voice and long hair it would be strange but I'll still game with him and use the dumb new name he picked out. No big deal.

Well that's not how it worked out. The attempt at friendship lasted about a month before I just had to stealth-restrict and ghost because EVERY single conversation got on to sexual topics. He's a dude who thinks he's a girl dating a girl who thinks she's a dude and every single conversation had to somehow, rather quickly, get to either how he wants to start a Findom business or how his "boyfriend" gives great head, or something similar. I don't remember the order of the final two messages so I don't know which was the one where I finally was like "Fuck this, I'm out" but the last two messages sent were, apropos of nothing, a borderline hentai image of a transgender Pokemon and an unnecessarily scantily clad image of a witch with a bulge in their panties.

This shit is a mind rot that gets into the brain through pornography and turns you into a diseased base-level animal incapable of functioning in modern society. I knew this dude for a long time growing up and he was your basic nerdy Warhammer lover who was incredibly irresponsible with his money (hence Warhammer figures) but very much a male. A porn addiction and one breakup too many turned him into a hypersexualized troon reject.

By the way, if you live in the US your tax dollars paid for his boobjob. But if it makes you feel any better, from the (thankfully clothed) picture I saw it was a really fucking shitty one so it probably didn't cost you much.

 

[ducktor]

I've mentioned in this thread before about my boyfriend's brother's tranny boyfriend (AFAB) that also pretends to be a toddler and a dog. My partner and i maintained a good relationship with his brother despite this until last week. We were at his parent's house for a meal and the brother decides to bring his tranny boyfriend down to eat with us in facetime (weird, I know but they're in a different country). The troon doesn't know I'm there until my boyfriend mentions my name. The troon asks to see me on facetime and says 'Hey Ghostie, you know i love your SM posts, but I hate the fact you like Marilyn Manson'.

Literally how it happened, so out the blue. For context, I listen to MM but that's about it, not that it should matter because music is music. I try laugh it off and change the subject because I cba for an argument but the troon won't drop it. I try to ignore them until I hear the words 'Nazi Sympathiser' come out their mouth. I was shocked because what has that got to do with liking a musical artist? I called them a bitch (lol) and then I got the 'fuck you, you bitch ass hoe' (if you're imagining Rasputia from Norbit at this point, that's basically a dead on comparision) to the point the brother had to take the angry troon to a different room.

I wouldn't care but now the brother has blocked me and my boyfriend on troons orders. I just feel bad and sick to my stomach at what they're doing to him. They're isolating him from his family, since his other siblings and parents are so fed up with it. We hung out without him later on (since everywhere he goes, troon on facetime goes) and had a great time, and i couldn't help but feel so angry at what they've done to his family relationships.

I would have thought trannys would like Marilyn Manson because of his album Mechanical Animals.

 

[Ghostie with the Mostie]

I would have thought trannys would like Marilyn Manson because of his album Mechanical Animals.

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You would think lmao. I think it's bc of the allegations against him (which I am 100% are bullshit having looked into it properly). Troon loves to cancel people over the slightest allegation or transgression, so I assume this is why they have a hate (imaginary) boner over MM and now me.

 

[ducktor]

You would think lmao. I think it's bc of the allegations against him (which I am 100% are bullshit having looked into it properly). Troon loves to cancel people over the slightest allegation or transgression, so I assume this is why they have a hate (imaginary) boner over MM and now me.

From The Guardian:

Marilyn Manson was accused of “childhood and adult sexual abuse, sexual battery, assault and molestation”.

Looks like he should fit right in with the troon crowd.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I would have thought trannys would like Marilyn Manson because of his album Mechanical Animals.

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It kind of skewers a lot of their foundational beliefs, though. Intentionally or not.

 

[The King-In-Chains]

I lost another one. Unlike the first I wrote about, this is one I can't opt out of interaction of.

I came to this site specifically because of this thread.

You try to steel yourself from it all. You know what to expect, you know how the song and dance works with people who are of this ilk after years of reading and watching socials.

But, it's not enough. It finds a way to really fuck with you mentally and emotionally. I hate these people. I hate that they have made me disenfranchised from my original beliefs and values. I hate that they take and subvert every hobby that I have enjoyed. I hate that they claim to be happy and know whats best for everyone when they have the most hollowed out eyes a living body could ever have.

I have to be vague about all details here for sake of PL:

My subject is an in-law. (MTF)

We have always been on good terms. He has historically had problems with his mental health, but had gotten better entering higher academia with a very specific focus. I would say just from a glance that he has very high functioning autism which helps with his academic career choice in a very intensive hard-scientific field.

One thing of note: He has a habit of taking on other peoples personality. It has been a reoccurring issue since we were introduced. His closest friend was a climate/covid/govt.-conspiracy nut, which pushed him to the point where he was convinced that in 5 years the coasts of the US were going to be submerged, that they needed to create a self-sustaining bunker in the plains with a stocked armory before the US govt. tried to seize or make it illegal to own land and that people who didn't take the vax were going to become spreader zombies. I wish I made that up.

Having a significant other changed that up. Things were looking better, until she cheated on him. We( friends and family) helped him out, and got him focused on what's going good in his life. It was during this time we really connected, and I was told through family that he really liked and respected me because of my intelligence. The family saw me as a positive figure for him.

Then came the new girl. I could see the red-flags from a mile away. Met on a dating app (call me old soul or old fashioned, dating apps just host lonely leftovers) and essentially moved in within a month of knowing each other.

The new girl claimed to be NB, was overweight, white, and loved to complain about everything you'd see on a breadtube 'deo. No fucking fashion sense, at this point I'm willing to enroll in the fashion Stasi.

My real first impression was just "Really? This is the stock you're betting on?"

More peculiar weird shit came out of her consistently as we hung out over time:

• She would talk shit constantly at every opportunity about her family.
• She would correct him at any talking point possible, even if he was in the right.
• She loved to talk about how much of a whore she was with her previous relationship as if it was "cool".
• If the topic even uttered the word sex, she'd be all over it.

I mentioned to others that these were definite red flags and maybe we should talk to him about it, but people in my social circles have a habit of telling me I was right after the damage has been done.

After a year or two, it finally came for him. He started getting injections, and his focus zero'd in on only trans subjects. Before her, he was a heavy skeptic in the belief of trans people. All clues pointed to her being responsible for the change.

Things only became more alarming to the family when it came out that apparently she became angry and full of envy when he was called to go out of the country for a work trip due to the nature of his field. I don't have to explain why that's fucked up.

When it came time to see him, I don't know, the emotions are hard to describe and its why I read these threads in the first place. It felt like there was never any closure, no "here's why", no pull to the side to have a heart-to-heart. Everyone in the family just kowtowed and used the new name and pronouns and acted like everything was fine.

It later came to me through other channels that the Mum was very, very concerned and did not trust the girl. Mum is hurt that this was hidden from her, fearful that he will cut of his penis in the future. The whole thing about left-leaning White women being cool with T+ until it hits their own son is true I guess because she is a card carrying liberal type. I've been dropping counter-narratives subtly in the meantime in order to help console and convince others that we need to separate them before it moves into the isolation stage where she gets him completely out of their reach.

I don't have a satisfying way to end this post, but to be honest the trans movement as a whole is never satisfying to deal with.

 

[AMHOLIO]

I don't have a satisfying way to end this post, but to be honest the trans movement as a whole is never satisfying to deal with.

Not everything requires satisfying endings. You came here to talk about a shit situation, and it's an ongoing shit one, so none was expected. It's one reason why life sucks sometimes.

 

[NerdShamer]

One thing of note: He has a habit of taking on other peoples personality.

Yeah, he's essentially an lost cause until he finds someone else. Although, it might be too late to get him to an shrink.

he was convinced that in 5 years the coasts of the US were going to be submerged, that they needed to create a self-sustaining bunker in the plains with a stocked armory before the US govt. tried to seize or make it illegal to own land and that people who didn't take the vax were going to become spreader zombies

Sounds like the setup of an half-decent B movie.

 

[Lady Bizness]

I've mentioned in this thread before about my boyfriend's brother's tranny boyfriend (AFAB) that also pretends to be a toddler and a dog. My partner and i maintained a good relationship with his brother despite this until last week. We were at his parent's house for a meal and the brother decides to bring his tranny boyfriend down to eat with us in facetime (weird, I know but they're in a different country). The troon doesn't know I'm there until my boyfriend mentions my name. The troon asks to see me on facetime and says 'Hey Ghostie, you know i love your SM posts, but I hate the fact you like Marilyn Manson'.

Literally how it happened, so out the blue. For context, I listen to MM but that's about it, not that it should matter because music is music. I try laugh it off and change the subject because I cba for an argument but the troon won't drop it. I try to ignore them until I hear the words 'Nazi Sympathiser' come out their mouth. I was shocked because what has that got to do with liking a musical artist? I called them a bitch (lol) and then I got the 'fuck you, you bitch ass hoe' (if you're imagining Rasputia from Norbit at this point, that's basically a dead on comparision) to the point the brother had to take the angry troon to a different room.

I wouldn't care but now the brother has blocked me and my boyfriend on troons orders. I just feel bad and sick to my stomach at what they're doing to him. They're isolating him from his family, since his other siblings and parents are so fed up with it. We hung out without him later on (since everywhere he goes, troon on facetime goes) and had a great time, and i couldn't help but feel so angry at what they've done to his family relationships.

A friend of mine who is very politically correct and refuses to recognize that woke is a thing just complained to me about a new intern. They were at a company barbecue so my friend was casual, wearing a band shirt. New intern sucked air through his teeth and asked my friend if he knew how problematic one of the band members is. I can't recall what the transgression was, but it wasn't trans. Anyway, I asked my friend, "did you show him your tattoo?"

Now that I think about it, it's kind of funny to wear a band shirt of a band that you have pretty much the same tattoo of. Anyway, he hates this guy now and I'm just counting the days until my friend gives up the anti racist shtick.

 

[NoReturn]

If the last several pages have taught me anything, it's that porn is to Euros what firewater is to the native americans.

 

[Real Mayun]

Myself

 

[Flexo]

If the last several pages have taught me anything, it's that porn is to Euros what firewater is to the native americans.

I am not convinced any particular human race is immune to porn's effects.

 

[pursuitsnail]

Myself

People have given you solid advice, so I'm just going to repeat it:
Turn off the computer.
Call your doctor and make an appointment.
Take your meds.
Clean up your diet for a couple weeks (or more).
Go outside, talk to people, get some fresh air and exercise.

Spend time getting back in touch with reality. It's not going to go away just because you shut your eyes and wish real hard.

 

[10 More Years]

Just had a second of my brothers "find out" that he is trans. He told me he's been reading about it and he never gave it serious consideration, but now that he's talked directly to the cult, he realized he's been trans all along. All the difficulties in his life was because he rejected his true self. It's not that he's been broke as fuck since he moved out. It's not that he grew up isolated from anyone in his age group. It's not that he's paying child support. The only reason he's not happy is because he's not wearing a dress.

He is 40 years old and has a wife and kids. It's one thing to destroy yourself, it's another to destroy your family.

Don't forget that this cult preys on the sick and needy. The common threads between him and my other MTF brother is recreational drug abuse, personality disorders, and legal troubles. Our family was poor and our parents would likely be considered abusive. I've also struggled with mental health issues, and in another timeline, I would have been brainwashed too.

If you guys have anything I could tell him to try to snap him out of it, then I'm all ears. It just really fucking sucks that another person I love and respected is dying.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Don't forget that this cult preys on the sick and needy. The common threads between him and my other MTF brother is recreational drug abuse, personality disorders, and legal troubles. Our family was poor and our parents would likely be considered abusive. I've also struggled with mental health issues, and in another timeline, I would have been brainwashed too.

You have your finger on the exact problem, but the hell of it is that that means the victims won't listen.

30 years ago your brother could have found Jesus instead, or Amway. Maybe a more palatable comparison, for cult victims, would be a fad diet? Everything is totally going to change now that he's on keto, yes everything, yes even his arrest records and employment history, keto will fix it, trust this video I found the science.

The problem with this cult is that it gets support from people outside the cult as well. Nobody's saying "wow, that sounds great for you" when a friend tells them they're getting really into Scientology, just edging away because they know the friend just announced they're becoming a relationship time bomb. The first leg of the road to troon hell is paved with ass-pats.

I don't know what to tell you. Help his kids, if you can.

 

[Flexo]

If you guys have anything I could tell him to try to snap him out of it, then I'm all ears. It just really fucking sucks that another person I love and respected is dying.

I wish I had magical words that would help. Only thing I can advise is to try and get him to think about his kids. They already got a mom, they need a dad. He can try being "second best mom" to them, or he can be "best dad" period.

 

[On a Journey]

Hi, I first posted to this thread 2 years ago, so here’s a couple depressing updates.

First, my childhood best friend, an autistic, homeschooled girl who in adolescence came out as trans/genderfluid. She became obsessed with anime, especially yaoi, and was a classic tumblrina for some time. I am convinced her desire to medically transition (thankfully, her parents were not about to mess around with hormones) was at least partially due to severe PCOS, she would even talk about starting T so she never had to have a period again. We drifted apart after my family moved and we had less and less in common, but I just looked at her social media and it seems like she's mostly stopped with the genderspecial shit and her pfp has a Lesbian flag.

I saw on social media that she just started doing testosterone. She is dating a non-binary TiM and currently going by “he/she/they” pronouns, whatever that means. I want to warn her about how dangerous T is but we haven’t talked in years so it’s probably a bad idea to be forward about it. If anyone has ideas for something I could say in case the subject comes up that doesn’t sound transphobic lmk. I think I might frame it as trying to give helpful advice about watching out for side effects.

My younger brother came out as trans to me a few months ago, not long after I started reading KF and picking up TERF ideas. He is an asocial, potentially autistic NEET who has never shown any signs of femininity before this. I want to be supportive and for him to be happy, but I've seen how miserable most trannies are. I've made it clear that I have serious issues with the trans community and am against medical transitioning, but this clearly upsets him. I am fully convinced being trans is a mental illness, and I haven't seen any signs of it being a fetish for him (he says he's asexual) so I do think it's real dysphoria, but the way that's treated should be criminal. I don't think I can bear to see him suffer through transition, doing procedure after procedure to chase an impossible goal, only to realize when it's too late that it can't fix what was actually wrong. I keep showing him the classic peak trans threads here in the hope he'll see the dark side of transgenderism and use his damn head, but other than that I've been supportive of him (using name/pronouns, teaching him about fashion and makeup, not calling him delusional, etc), even when it makes me uncomfortable. If I can't stop this, I'm at least gonna make sure he's one of the "good trans".

He’s still a useless NEET and is constantly selfish and disrespectful to our parents. He lives with our mother and I don’t know how she takes it, his entitlement is seriously off the charts. He rarely leaves the house and apparently doesn’t care about anything that isn’t on his computer. I resent him more every time I see him. Anyways, he began doing DIY hormones and blockers he ordered from Hong Kong behind everyone’s back when he was 17.

Edit: Just realized I somehow deleted the last bit of this post:

Though he now gets them from a doctor, I was glad to see that the Chinese are shutting down these DIY HRT operations. Two years later he is still obviously male, as he always will be.

 

[Catman from cat town]

I recently learned a few of my cousins decided they are trans. They are either in middle school or starting high school so I’m starting to believe that the schools are pushing this shit really hard. I’ve decided as the eldest cousin that I’m gonna have to teach them that they are at the age of figuring out their identity and that puberty sucks. I find it crazy that I’m having to tell my aunts and uncles that this is similar to the cutting or eating disorder trend when I was in school too. I don’t believe none of them believe their children are trans though.

 

[Blue Slushie]

Just found out through one of my friends that my ex-boyfriend is questioning his gender identity. The last time I interacted with him was during our senior year, when he broke up with me. My friend is still in contact with him and I recently asked him how he was doing since it's been a while since we last spoke. And that's when he mentioned the gender identity issues my ex-boyfriend's going through. He said he's been questioning it for a while now. He never showed signs of a possible troon out during the time we were together. Honestly, I hope he doesn't troon out but since we're zoomers, I think the likelihood of him trooning out is pretty high.