Plagued Consoomers / Consoomer Culture - Because if it has a recogniseable brand on it, I’d buy it!

[Cuntspiracy Man]

Because, at that point, you would be satisfied. If you were satisfied with the product, you theoretically wouldn't have any reason to continue shopping, right?

oh please, when has that ever been the case?
we discussed luxury consumers in this very same thread, people who just need to own the next design from some expensive, big name brand, over and over again

a healthy attachment to a quality brand can still very quickly turn unhealthy with the right marketing and business practices

what youre describing is absolutely a real phenomena, why put effort and care into an item when you can make cheap trash, sell it for slightly less and have it end up in the bin before your consumer wants something new?
but this isnt the same situation, this isnt a person making a plastic varient of something that nobody would buy anyway for pennies and selling it for more than its worth in plastic alone
this is a company making absurdly small amounts of money, and sometimes even losses, on large quantities of cheap crap which they have so sell in the millions to make any kinda profict- when they could be making bank by making decent quality items and selling each one for the same amount of money that several of their garbage pieces cost, and make the same profit just with less materials

im almost wondering if this is just an oversight, something that looks brilliant on paper... assuming that paper is an old, wet napkin... but isnt actually that smart in practice

i mean, we ask ourselves how an indian man can think its a good business practice- sitting in a call room for 8 hours a day getting told to fuck off by people who arent buying his bullshit, just to FINALLY hit that goldmine when he manages to convince a grandma to send him a 100 dollar apple gift card.... why do that, when you can just work in your local bodega and earn just as much for half the work?
but to them i dont think it seems like some kinda genius, well thought out plan, just a quick scam that sounds more profitable than it is

 

[WelperHelper99]

@Rusty Cheeseknife take a sit, please
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Thats a lot of chibi figures in the making, good lord

The worst thing about the Funko Pops I think is their sheer cynicism and lack of merit as objects of art. I mean a Gundam or Transformer is also a useless piece of Chinese plastic with no practical purpose, but at least some effort went into making each one look unique and interesting. A Gundam figure is at least worth looking at even if you don't know what a Gundam is because it's a cool-looking robot with an intricate design. A Funko Pop, by contrast, is just a plastic cube with a few bits tacked on to it, just enough to indicate that it's supposed to be [thing] from [thing]. The same soul-less, dead-eyed vinyl abomination, but with literally the least amount of superficial signifiers of what it's supposed to be that someone familiar with that thing might recognise it (though often it's incomprehensible, and I think that's why most are displayed in the box; without the label you might not even figure out it's supposed to be Indiana Jones or Katniss or whatever). The very essence of symbolism, the absolute bare minimum. It's not intended to be a recognisable depiction of the thing or to even resemble the thing in any real way, or carry any inherent value as a piece of art, it just carries signifiers to indicate that it's owner has heard of the thing and is a fan of the thing. It conveys so little artistic value or reference to the original that you could achieve exactly the same thing by just writing "Davros out of Dr Who" on the wall in permanent marker.

That's my real contention. Funkos are soulless, injection molded paperweights that fail at that even, since they're so light. A Gundam by contrast- may of which are made in Japanese factories too- knows what it is. A toy/ poesable statue that anyone can enjoy even without watching the show because, hey, cool robots. Same with Transformers to a extent. It all just matters that you don't get consoomed by it. That's the main problem with Funko Consoomers, it's never enough. Even when they run out of shelf space, instead of taking it as a sign, they just get another shelf, spend 80 bucks on a rare funko, and Consoom harder

 

[Cheeseknife]

this is a company making absurdly small amounts of money, and sometimes even losses, on large quantities of cheap crap which they have so sell in the millions to make any kinda profict- when they could be making bank by making decent quality items and selling each one for the same amount of money that several of their garbage pieces cost, and make the same profit just with less materials

im almost wondering if this is just an oversight, something that looks brilliant on paper... assuming that paper is an old, wet napkin... but isnt actually that smart in practice

i mean, we ask ourselves how an indian man can think its a good business practice- sitting in a call room for 8 hours a day getting told to fuck off by people who arent buying his bullshit, just to FINALLY hit that goldmine when he manages to convince a grandma to send him a 100 dollar apple gift card.... why do that, when you can just work in your local bodega and earn just as much for half the work?
but to them i dont think it seems like some kinda genius, well thought out plan, just a quick scam that sounds more profitable than it is

Are you talking about class restraint issues? In other words people being forced stifle their own ambitions due politics or religious beliefs?

 

[Spunt]

One way I've been seeing this done in recent years is how many AAA video games are released early in a state of unplayability. Almost immediately the online anger machine whirs to life and everyone complains about how unprofessional video game developers are...

...but they still buy the games. They still buy the consoles. Gamers constantly whine and complain about the quality of their products, but they still buy the products. To an extent, this would lead one to believe that some developers are purposely releasing their products in a broken state in order to maintain a sense of dissatisfaction, but with promises that, "We'll fix it." Such promises ensure the people buying said products will continue to spend their money on the belief that "It'll be fixed...someday."

Bugfixing is hard, costs money, and delays the launch of products. If people will buy it anyway, why bother? It's not just about being greedy or evil either, the laws relating to Fiduciary Responsibility place an obligation on the boards of publicly traded companies to maximise profit for shareholders. As a shareholder, you want, probably need, your shares to perform as well as they possibly can. If bugfixing gets in the way of that, then bugfixing has to go. People whine about "fat cat shareholders" but the fact is that many of these shareholders are pension funds. who carry the responsibility for the retirements of hundreds of millions of people. It creates a situation where in order for grandma to afford groceries, companies have to release broken video games.

So you can see the strength of the economic forces at play here. Going boo hiss at AAA developers isn't going to budge them an inch. The only people in this entire system who are not forced into this situation are the consumers buying these broken games. If they stopped, which they could, the entire polarity of the system would be inverted, but most of these people don't know or don't care, mostly because they're teenagers.

Personally, if xXx_EpicGamer666_xXx is going to buy Medal of Battlefield 7 even though it's a broken piece of shit and his $70 is helping grandma buy milk, then that's not the worst outcome in the world, the only person who is really getting shafted is xXx_EpicGamer666_xXx and he had $70 to waste. My personal responsibility is to be the change I want to see in the world. I haven't bought a AAA game on release since Skyrim. I tend to buy games from smaller devs, in particular those who are not publicly traded. That's not an actual policy of mine, I just wait till I can see the Youtubers I trust actually playing the thing before I decide whether to buy it or not, and it turns out that 90% of my games are from LLCs because I don't buy broken shit at launch.

You could extend this to the healthcare industries as well. How often are people being prescribed drugs but experience zero improvement to their health? How often are people told to make regular visits to their doctor even though nothing is wrong with them? "So, we had you on Oleptro and that didn't work; so we're going to start you on Zoloft..." Healthcare companies stand to profit more by keeping you sick and unhealthy for a longer period of time.

Chinese Emperors used to pay their doctors when they were well and stop paying them when they got sick. This model is long overdue a reintroduction.

 

[Cuntspiracy Man]

Are you talking about class restraint issues? In other words people being forced stifle their own ambitions due politics or religious beliefs?

im talking about scams and easy money

usually theres a reason why people do it, its, well, easy and makes more of a net profit
but this is just a bad scam is all, its not rational to work this way when working better wouldnt actually be any harder

its like if you had access to a grand bakery but instead of selling delicious cakes for a higher price, even tho you COULD make them, you mixed boxed cake mixes together but then sold the result to homeless people for nickels and bottle caps
yes youre using cheap products but youre also selling cheap results, when you clearly have the skills and means to make something better and sell it for much, much more

I haven't bought a AAA game on release since Skyrim.

that not saying much in regard to how long ago you bought is, now is it

 

[Cheeseknife]

but this is just a bad scam is all, its not rational to work this way when working better wouldnt actually be any harder

My guess is it's all a result of living under oppression and constantly being cowed into a state of submission. Rational thinking, high-IQ solutions, creativity, imagination--that all puts you into the radar.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

My guess is it's all a result of living under oppression and constantly being cowed into a state of submission. Rational thinking, high-IQ solutions, creativity, imagination--that all puts you into the radar.

Perhaps darkies are simply genetically inclined to have poor work ethic and make cheap easily broken shit.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Chinese Emperors used to pay their doctors when they were well and stop paying them when they got sick. This model is long overdue a reintroduction.

The mental health grift would crumble overnight.

 

[WelperHelper99]

The mental health grift would crumble overnight.

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Actually paying when the job is well done would solve a lot of issues. Less buggy games, more positive mindset since you're actually seeing the good shit, lower prices due to competition, etc.

 

[Cuntspiracy Man]

Actually paying when the job is well done would solve a lot of issues. Less buggy games, more positive mindset since you're actually seeing the good shit, lower prices due to competition, etc.

that applies well to products and single-use services like games, but not so well to something like healthcare which a person is supposedly meant to engage with thruout their whole life

the "you pay only if the work was done so well than you no longer require it" model would be much better in things like healthcare, since its a continious service, not a product
but then again, i suppose healthcare IS sold to us as a product nowadays anyway... so its only fitting isnt it

 

[WelperHelper99]

that applies well to products and single-use services like games, but not so well to something like healthcare which a person is supposedly meant to engage with thruout their whole life

the "you pay only if the work was done so well than you no longer require it" model would be much better in things like healthcare, since its a continious service, not a product
but then again, i suppose healthcare IS sold to us as a product nowadays anyway... so its only fitting isnt it

Healthcare basically is a product anymore, from hip replacements to pills to supplements. And really that's people's fault for begging for it so much instead of taking it when they need it. That's the crux of many Consoomer issues

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

some tiktok retard is reselling Off-White shoelaces for $270 on the TikTok shop

after going to the link on his TikTok profile, his website officially sells them for $3.50 and you can get a nice little 10% discount

he states you can get them for $245-$250 but after a quick bing search, you can buy the shoelaces for $5 and can get an off-white sneaker, and still have money left over before you buy from this guy

 

[Shig O'nella]

its interesting how individuality has always been 'sold' to us
"hey kids, wanna be DIFFERENT and express YOURSELF? well come pick your choice of mask color to pair with your safe and inoffensive mainstream tv show tshirt and your side shave haircut. now THATS what i call being original, isnt that right, number #18873?"

Late reply, because I had my first holiday in 20 odd years:

From June, 1959. Seem familiar?

 

[Computer Guardian]

Jirard "The Completionist" is mad that companies won't let him buy old goyslop every new console generation.

 

[Vingle]

some tiktok retard is reselling Off-White shoelaces for $270 on the TikTok shop
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after going to the link on his TikTok profile, his website officially sells them for $3.50 and you can get a nice little 10% discount
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he states you can get them for $245-$250 but after a quick bing search, you can buy the shoelaces for $5 and can get an off-white sneaker, and still have money left over before you buy from this guy

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This might be a stupid question, but what is off-white in this context? Because I only know it as a colour, and the laces aren't even close to that.

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

This might be a stupid question, but what is off-white in this context? Because I only know it as a colour, and the laces aren't even close to that.

it's just a streetwear brand started by virgil abloh

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Jirard "The Completionist" is mad that companies won't let him buy old goyslop every new console generation.

I understand the concern. There are plenty of gems that become unaccessible due to out dated hardware or servers shutting down. But I would rather just have a DRM free PC port that fans can upkeep or companies just leave emulation projects alone than being forced to rebuy it every generation.

But his bit about how piracy isn't the solution and it gatekeeps normies is dumb as fuck.

For one, normies don't care about classic games, even if you make it easily accessible. Unless it is trending on twitch most people don't care. It is the same as other hobbies that do have easily accessible old media like movies, music, or books.

Two, if someone wants to play these old games, they are willing to jump though the hoops. And honestly the finding and trying to get shit running is part of the fun of the hobby too.

 

[𝕺𝖑' 𝕯𝖎𝖗𝖙𝖞 𝕱𝖆𝖙𝖘𝖔]

That's my real contention. Funkos are soulless, injection molded paperweights that fail at that even, since they're so light. A Gundam by contrast- may of which are made in Japanese factories too- knows what it is. A toy/ poesable statue that anyone can enjoy even without watching the show because, hey, cool robots. Same with Transformers to a extent. It all just matters that you don't get consoomed by it. That's the main problem with Funko Consoomers, it's never enough. Even when they run out of shelf space, instead of taking it as a sign, they just get another shelf, spend 80 bucks on a rare funko, and Consoom harder

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

But his bit about how piracy isn't the solution and it gatekeeps normies is dumb as fuck.

And this right here is how you know that the guy is some combination of:

A) Corporate mindslave

B) Not actually in it for playing the games but instead the perceived status he has for owning them

C) A pussy who supports piracy but is too scared to say it (I highly doubt this as he is a Nintendrone and Nintendrones do not support piracy as a rule)

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

and it gatekeeps normies is dumb as fuck.

And this is why so many hobbyist communities have gone to shit. Not enough gatekeeping.