Off-Topic What is YOUR fundamental issue with troons outside of their batshittery.

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At the heart of it is the false belief that they are created in their own image, that if they feel like a woman they are one (nevermind that being male they cannot know what that might feel like).

It's a perverse rejection of the truth, and their state as a mere creation, in most cases a twisted and pathetic failure with mostly themselves to blame. The gender BS is probably a scapegoat for most of them to blame their wickedness and failure on. Sadly by rejecting the truth they are turning away from the Savior, rejecting his Grace and doubling down on their lies.
 
Twitter was really pissed at a poll saying "Would you rather a troon or a NAZI babysit your kid?" and the results were 75% Nazi.

Maybe the results would be different if they hadn't watered down the definition of Nazi to everyone right of Socialism. As is, most people don't read the question as Josef Mengele vs. a troon, they read it as: would you rather have your kid watched by your grandma, or a pervert male in a dress who will tell him the minute you leave, "Hey kid, wanna try on my heels and makeup without telling your parents? If yes, you should take pills to grow boobs and cut your dick off! If your parents tell you not to, it's because they don't love you and you should only listen to people like me!"

Of the two, Josef Mengele would be less likely to mangle a kid
 
Their aggressive insistence that you don't just have to tolerate their repulsive kink, you have to participate in it and foster their delusions and hallucinations. Also the pedo thing.
Of the two, Josef Mengele would be less likely to mangle a kid
I'm pretty sure if Mengele were alive today he'd be a quack practicing troon surgeries and making bank.
 
I wouldn't care what people do in private if it wasn't for the emotional manipulation, twisting of language, and fakery they push on people to justify their fetishes and/or unwillingness to deal with their mental problems. And that's BEFORE taking into consideration the fact they push this shit on kids.
 
They think getting lesbians is super easy because women have to put in no effort to have admirers left and right, so if they become a "woman" they will automatically get lots and lots of pussy.
That's what perplexes me. Has it occurred to AGPs that the majority of admirers that are sexually attracted to women are men? A heterosexual woman may find other women beautiful or attractive, but that doesn't mean that they'll schlick the pussies together. AGPs should be expecting more dick offers, solicited or otherwise.
 
I didn't care until the mass hysteria began, when it wasn't enough to just let trannies be, you had to worship trannyism, governments had to pass laws for trannies, corporations had to fund and employ trannies regardless of qualifications, taxes should go to trannies so they didn't have to pay for their insane transformation while millions go without healthcare for their very real actual illnesses.

That's my fundamental issue, isn't it enough?
 
7) Trannies are invariably insufferable to be around. If you enjoy anything socially, whether it is boardgames, cricket, hanggliding or gardening, trannies will inevitably infitrate it and make everything about themselves and their insane requirements. They are so God damn needy.

Hobby takeovers: Man, I remember being younger and thinking games done quick was fucking neat, then like two years later somethings off. It's different, it's soul is gone. It's just a husk, and more and more of these shapeshifters come into the fray, hosting the event, running it. It was pathetic. I was thankfully never one to speedrun, but I did enjoy viewing those events early on, but not anymore. They inject themselves into hobbies, and start pushing their faux identity onto it.
This infestation and inevitable takeover of every niche hobby, pastime, and activity is especially infuriating. You see it with the GDQ and bullshit like announcers with booming, deep, manly radio voices announcing pronouns as "she/her" before anything else, and everyone is expected to fall in line, and play along. Or especially vindictive actions like the young teen recently kicked out of a Pokémon tournament for nervously laughing when asked his pronouns...🙄
What annoys me about pooners or FTMs is that as soon as they are called on to do a traditionally “manly” task which involves physical strength or hardship, they drop the act pretty quickly
Oh the zippertits are definitely manly. So manly in fact, that they walk around showing off their mutilation scars as a badge of honor, every chance they get. And when things get even the slightest bit difficult, they do the most manly thing possible. They cry about it, of course!
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They are rebelling against God's creation of male and female as separate beings.

Pro tip: troons flourish under atheism. You NEED God fundamentally in your argument otherwise it falls apart.
I see your point, but I disagree, if only because the troons have an easy "out" with the "catholic priests" argument whenever you bring up their sexual perversions and degeneracy, as if that somehow makes their abuses any better. I'll agree on the religion=morals aspect though, even though most religions have vastly different beliefs, most have many of the same fundamental moral and societal beliefs as their backbone. Even most hard-core atheists will agree that these moral and societal beliefs are necessary.
They demand "medical care", by which they mean a doctor destroying and disrupting their completely healthy human anatomy and body chemistry, forcing those doctors to violate their basic oaths. They say that legislators are trying to kill them, but they're really just threatening to harm themselves if they don't get their way. The overdramatic victim complex reaches its insane heights when the word "genocide" is mentioned.
It's the same with their watering down and misuse of other words like "euphoria", "dysphoria" etc. And everyone who doesn't toe the line is "literally Hitler" or a "Nazi". If it weren't such a controversy in Current Year, I'd love to see more people call their bluffs on their suicide-baiting whenever they don't get their way. It really reminds me of the little kids who would throw tantrums and hold their breath when they didn't get what they want
I’m a woman. From an early age I was trained to sit with my legs closed or crossed. I had to wash my long hair more often than my brother had to wash his short hair. My parents were way more involved with keeping tabs on me in my teen years than my brother, too. Every time I see a trans “woman” claiming to be a real woman, I always want to ask them a bunch of pointed questions. How many times have you gone to work in pain because menstrual cramps can be the devil but arent an excuse to miss work? How many times have you told a friend “going on a date, call the cops if you don’t hear from my by this time?” You know that glorious feeling when you get home and “unhook” for the night? Never? Then you’ve never experienced womanhood. Just like I can’t write another paragraph about male experiences because guess what I’ve never been?
It's even more insane nowadays. Some of the top-tier degenerates openly flaunt their "dysphoria" over the fact that they'll never experience these things. They literally turn normal everyday pain in the ass things that women have to deal with into a fetish that they can pine for. Yet you can't point out their hypocrisy over it, because they revert back to their suicide-baiting and throw out the usual buzzwords at you. 🙄
It is amazing how the uneasy equilibrium between trannies and normies -- the former kept to themselves; the latter laugh but largely let them be -- that prevailed between the 1960s to 2000s has degenerated into the present state of affair, where trannies openly flaunt their sexual fetish, strongarm their way into women's sports, women's prisons, and women-only shelters, and freely convert children at schools, while normies are cowered into silence. This is all with the blessing of governments, "Science™", and sometimes even the Christian churches
You've got to think, grouped into one big thing, "Science" at its core has always been about furthering knowledge and understanding, while progressing our world further. Yet it has always been tethered/hindered by the fact that most parts are funded by people and corporations with their own interests. In even more recent times that reliance has warped into an outright perversion to where "Science™️©️" isn't just tainted by the people who fund them, it's become a wholly corrupted propaganda mouthpiece for the corporations and governments who outright control them. This isn't like the sugar vs fat studies in the 1960's where paid research and biased looks at studies can manipulate an outcome. The Coronavirus bullshit over the past 3 years has shown that outright lies, manipulation, willfully deleting and withholding critical information, and government pressure is now the norm. It's to the point where "Questioning the Science™️" can literally get you un-personed in many places in the world.
Their incessant need to relate everything back to being a tranny; I've seen Slack channels in the workplace that announce things like "helpdesk will be open these hours". People emoji react to these with thumbs up, thank you....and several dozen tranny  flags. Not even the grossest faggy attention-seeking gays do things like that, not nearly with that frequency. I get it, it's one of those tiny things that seems like a nitpick to any disinterested observer, but it's because they do this shit with everything. Every facet of a troon's life becomes about being a tranny.
No other mental illness or personality issue that I can think of is so flawed and based in fantasy that it ABSOLUTELY REQUIRES constant affirmation and validation from everyone else, and from every aspect of society. These people are so fucking mental, and have gaslit the proper powers that be so much, that they're practically infallible in every situation as long as they're waving their ugly-ass flag. From women's bathrooms and sports, to the entire worldwide medical and pharmaceutical industries and governments, they sound the drum of "phobia" and "oppression" while trampling on others with a zeal not seen since the end of the Weimar Republic.
I actually do feel sorry for the truscums. Don't get me wrong they are still fucking crazy. But being a person with actual dysphoria who has to watch their own community get taken over by fetishists and narcissists must be like being someone born without legs watching people intentionally cripple themselves because wheelchairs have become trendy
I believe, and I'm sure most everyone else will agree, that in very few, very rare circumstances, gender dysphoria is a legit mental illness. The vast majority nowadays is social contagion, fueled by social media, identity politics, and, quite simply, a "get out of jail free" card. So you're a middling, failed male athlete who never rose to the height you've always wanted? BOOM! TRANS! Now you're "Lia" Thomas winning NCAA scholarships at the top of the national rankings, while living out your fetishes and kinks from your secret social media accounts.

So you're an over the hill former Olympic champion, who slips fuether into irrelevancy while watching your daughters whore themselves out to niggers on reality TV, and you just killed a woman while driving? BOOM! TRANS! Now you're Caitlyn Jenner, the stunning and brave trans "icon" winning woman of the year awards and receiving praise and accolades, all less than a year after you've literally killed an actual woman.

So you're a Hollywood actor with a few minor roles under your belt, have struggles with your bisexuality and mental issues for years, and now are in legal trouble for your many run-ins with the law, including theft, harassment, assault, and grooming of minors. And you're in danger of being "cancelled" and losing your Hollywood career? BOOM! NON-BINARY! Now you're "they/them" Ezra Miller, and at the very least you've bought yourself some time to either straighten up and fix your issues and try to salvage your career. Or he could go completely off the deep-end and end up homeless or dead in an alley somewhere... 🤷‍♂️ stay tuned for updates I guess?
I think this also could be why so many troons are determined to end the site and routinely smear the forum as a breeding or rallying ground for fascist bullies who think nothing of hounding people to suicide.
The troons know that most of what is discussed here is valid criticism, but they really can't face the possibility of their fantasies and imaginary worlds falling down around them.
This goes back to their need for constant affirmation and validation of their mental illnesses. Much like a demon recoiling at hearing it'd true name, a troon recoils when faced with undeniable reality and fact. They cannot handle any criticism or opposing thoughts, and either respond with violence (It's Ma'am!) or societal/legal pressure when people refuse to buy into their bullshit. Look at what's happening in Canuckistan right now, threatening people like Jordan Peterson with his license for refusing to play along with their mind games and gender ideology bullshit, unless he gets "re-education" and "training" that the government deems appropriate.
The biggest red flag for troons is them saying "Don't listen to any detransitioners, they don't know what they're talking about because they were never REAL trans people!"

It's the same tagline as every cult, "Don't believe exmembers, they were never REAL believers, they're just bitter because they didn't have the strength of character to stick with it! Only listen to people still in the thick of believing it, that's a more credible source!"
It's funny, but not really, how closely the troon agenda parallels a cult in almost every single aspect. You can literally replace all of the troon-specific words with Scientology and it would be the same damn thing.
 
That's what perplexes me. Has it occurred to AGPs that the majority of admirers that are sexually attracted to women are men? A heterosexual woman may find other women beautiful or attractive, but that doesn't mean that they'll schlick the pussies together. AGPs should be expecting more dick offers, solicited or otherwise.
These men are autistic/narcissists who are looking at lesbian porn and yuri anime all day everyday. They think all woman must be sexually attracted to woman to some degree because they like woman themselves. They lack theory of mind.

They don't consider men because they're not thinking of other men. In a narcissists world, they only care for themselves and objects for desire.
They only consider their desire for woman, but they don't understand their desires stem from being male.
 
The grievances here are well-founded, but for me, it's their sheer disrespect, entitlement, and narcissism. I can be cordial with people from all walks of life — of vastly different religious, political, or philosophical leanings, no matter how much I may disagree with them, simply because I find value in understanding one's position.

When it comes to troons, however, they never give others the benefit of the doubt, nor even consider why someone wouldn't address them with their preferred pronouns. It can't be because demanding someone to do so is both extremely entitled and delusional, no, they have to be hateful bigots.

Then there's the fact that they coopt ostensibly apolitical communities, demand that others make pro-troon content and bend backward to them, and when someone tries to be diplomatic and tries to be the neutral voice of reason, the cowardly mods take the troons' side while blaming the neutrals for involving politics. The result is the enthusiasts either self-censoring or leaving for greener pastures while a bunch of talentless narcissists and their asskissers run amok.

You just can't argue with troons, nor try to be reasonable with them while being polite. They gain affirmation from their cult by denying reality and giving people shit in something as innocuous as pronoun usage. If there's any group in all of human history that's embodied the core of solipsism more than any other, it's troons.
 
Of the two, Josef Mengele would be less likely to mangle a kid
As twisted, evil and sick things Mengele did were, there was a purpose to them - if nazi science was worthless there would be no Operation Paperclip. He wouldn't mangle the kid just for the hell of it or for sexual gratification.
 
A lot of reasons… but most of all the MtF’s who have children and are selfish enough to look at their wife and kids and say “Sorry, daddy doesn’t exist anymore, don’t call me that. It’s Lilith or other Mommy now.” Basically, fuck troons
 
A lot of reasons… but most of all the MtF’s who have children and are selfish enough to look at their wife and kids and say “Sorry, daddy doesn’t exist anymore, don’t call me that. It’s Lilith or other Mommy now.” Basically, fuck troons
The Mr.Beast scenario. There is no way that anyone that understand a family dynamic that is ok with him doing this over his wife/kids.
 
The Mr.Beast scenario. There is no way that anyone that understand a family dynamic that is ok with him doing this over his wife/kids.
That is a PERFECT example of what I mean. Doing that to the wife is bad enough, but it hasn’t been too long since this tranny bullshit really picked up… but give it 10 years. I’m no psychologist but I guarantee seeing dad go full AGP at about any age will have some pretty fucked up long term effects on any kid
 
That is a PERFECT example of what I mean. Doing that to the wife is bad enough, but it hasn’t been too long since this tranny bullshit really picked up… but give it 10 years. I’m no psychologist but I guarantee seeing dad go full AGP at about any age will have some pretty fucked up long term effects on any kid
I think there were mentions of the Mr. Beast troon also putting his child in women's shoes and saying something along the lines of slay queen, my memory is fuzzy.
 
The clear 1984 double-think their very existence promotes. The authoritarian collective of powers is basically saying "2+2=5, and if you disagree you are a bigot" and instead of the torture that happened in the book to make them love big brother, it is simply the vain virtue-signalling egotism of today's insufferable morons that allows them throw away all reason and say "men are women, and this proves I am a good person".

That is the enabler of all the horrible things they are allowed to get away with using trans identity as a shield and the root cause of this insanity imo.
 
It's a lie, and I don't like lies. If you pointed to a pigeon and called it a crow, I will feel the same. Then comes the primal disgust that I feel when I see a man act and dress feminine, and the ominous skinwalking aspect of it. After it comes the public sexual deviation, almost all of them are exhibitionist. And most important of all, the cult aspect of it and the propaganda that you see pushed and spread in front of your eyes.

How this symbol of butt fucking and men putting on dresses became a religious sacred cow for a lot of people, and with it came a fanatic believe of smug moral superiority and righteousness, all mixed with baked communist believes and mental illness. I don't know.
 
As twisted, evil and sick things Mengele did were, there was a purpose to them - if nazi science was worthless there would be no Operation Paperclip. He wouldn't mangle the kid just for the hell of it or for sexual gratification.
There was very little he did that produced worthwhile science. Much of it was just worthless sadism, like what John Money did on a smaller scale. Now their rocket scientists were fucking awesome and we'd have had to be retarded not to take them. They were generally not ideological at all.
It's a lie, and I don't like lies. If you pointed to a pigeon and called it a crow, I will feel the same.
And if someone said that, I'd think they were ridiculous and would mock them.

The idea of the utter madness troons say not only being tolerated but enshrined as actual "science," with fake scientists promulgating it and real scientists having their careers ended for working on objective reality, cements them as fundamentally anti-reason authoritarians. And all such people deserve death.
 
There was very little he did that produced worthwhile science. Much of it was just worthless sadism, like what John Money did on a smaller scale.
Ideology-driven science will always be mostly worthless - soviets had their Lysenko, nazis had their Mengele. But I thought he - or nazi doctors in general - had some successes in their research into transplantology.
 
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