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[Drag-on Knight 91873]

There are chunks of eastern Oregon and Washington trying to break away and join Idaho (who has said they'll happily take them in, those parts of OR and WA are pretty damned red).

There's not a lot of precedent for it, but then again, long train of abuses and usurpations and so on.

One of the problems people (especially Euros) get confused by is that the U.S. really isn't a super-unified country like a European one. Theoretically it's fifty smaller countries all bound together. Granted, the concept of federalism has taken some serious hits, first from Lincoln (and while I am sympathetic to the issues he faced it's hard for me to not want to slap him for not seeing what was coming down the road) and then later on from FDR and the rise of the federal 'super-gov'.

But the structures are there, waiting. You don't need to cobble together a new government from scratch. The state govs will function just as well as the federal retards and I would wager with fifty percent more efficiency.

The nightmare scenario for statist WEF faggots is one where more than two states tell the feds to go fuck themselves for their latest mandate. The left has already set THAT precedent with their sanctuary city/state faggotry. Nice job fucking the llama, retards.

Seems like the trick is directing the tax revenue from Oregon to Idaho IMO. If it's all automated, then their taxes go to Oregon anyways, which is why nothing is happening.

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

Generally there are cases of that sort and of the opposite where a state's districts want to vote out another (Read: Illinois residents trying to remove Chicago/California and all kinds of districts calls to remove or be removed) but of course it never happens.

I wouldn't call that really balkanization more than wet dreams from a political perspective, generally balkanization is neither that peaceful or just solved by a vote.

What's more likely to happen in the near future is the Federal Government becoming insolvent and defaulting on it's obligations once it becomes clear they can't print anymore money.

Once that happens the US would go through something similar to a bankruptcy where the states and other forms of Government would come together and negotiate how to reform the Federal Government to never let a giant debt crisis happen again. There's never going to be some massive war or even any civil conflict because all the problems come from the idiots in Washington. There have been times in US history where the citizenship could get along fine and they weren't egged on by elites.

People talk about the States all wanting to fight each other but really that's just the extremists on both sides who have always been a tiny loud minority propped up to distract the populus from the massive issues the Government has. The real issue has ans always will be the Federal Government and when things get bad enough for it to collapse, the States would much band together than fight each other.

It's like that joke about Commisar Cletus and Commisar Jamal. Both them will have more in common with each other than a Karen in a gated community and they'll come to that realization eventually.

 

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The real issue has ans always will be the Federal Government and when things get bad enough for it to collapse, the States would much band together than fight each other.

I'm pretty sure when shit hits the fan and suddenly California can't live off federal welfare for it's massive deficit, they'll directly demand aid from the states they can reach nearby. Hell they already do the same thing with water rights -- sucking all the water from every state to the west of the Mississippi to fund several batshit insane ag industries that should have been left to die decades ago. (Almonds and IIRC Avocados).

 

[Back me up!]

There are chunks of eastern Oregon and Washington trying to break away and join Idaho (who has said they'll happily take them in, those parts of OR and WA are pretty damned red).

There's not a lot of precedent for it, but then again, long train of abuses and usurpations and so on.

One of the problems people (especially Euros) get confused by is that the U.S. really isn't a super-unified country like a European one. Theoretically it's fifty smaller countries all bound together. Granted, the concept of federalism has taken some serious hits, first from Lincoln (and while I am sympathetic to the issues he faced it's hard for me to not want to slap him for not seeing what was coming down the road) and then later on from FDR and the rise of the federal 'super-gov'.

But the structures are there, waiting. You don't need to cobble together a new government from scratch. The state govs will function just as well as the federal retards and I would wager with fifty percent more efficiency.

The nightmare scenario for statist WEF faggots is one where more than two states tell the feds to go fuck themselves for their latest mandate. The left has already set THAT precedent with their sanctuary city/state faggotry. Nice job fucking the llama, retards.

Which is why I'm starting to suggest that people start looking more into helping out the Republican State Leadership Committee. Instead of pozzed federal elections like the GOP they focus on winning state houses on a state by state level. And since it is not federal elections there is no cap on how much a person can donate. (Depending on State).

The Gov of Virginia, Youngkin, talks about them here along with his plan on voting early. And its not just talk, Youngkin personally put down 700k to win VA State elections.

 

[draggs]

There are chunks of eastern Oregon and Washington trying to break away and join Idaho (who has said they'll happily take them in, those parts of OR and WA are pretty damned red).

There's not a lot of precedent for it, but then again, long train of abuses and usurpations and so on.

One of the problems people (especially Euros) get confused by is that the U.S. really isn't a super-unified country like a European one. Theoretically it's fifty smaller countries all bound together. Granted, the concept of federalism has taken some serious hits, first from Lincoln (and while I am sympathetic to the issues he faced it's hard for me to not want to slap him for not seeing what was coming down the road) and then later on from FDR and the rise of the federal 'super-gov'.

But the structures are there, waiting. You don't need to cobble together a new government from scratch. The state govs will function just as well as the federal retards and I would wager with fifty percent more efficiency.

The nightmare scenario for statist WEF faggots is one where more than two states tell the feds to go fuck themselves for their latest mandate. The left has already set THAT precedent with their sanctuary city/state faggotry. Nice job fucking the llama, retards.

Lincoln did see what was coming. That's what his second inaugural speech was about. Malice towards none, charity towards all was a rebuke to the Radical Republicans who wanted to use the huge federal government wartime apparatus to crush the defeated South. Then Lincoln got domed and the Thaddeus Stevens had no effective counter to them in the party. The huge mess of Reconstruction was the result. The Party corrected itself in the 1870s and then Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson created the administrative state and cranked it up to 11, respectively. Then Silent Cal did a pretty good job reversing course, and FDR fucked it all up creating the permanent bloated overbearing federal government we've had ever since

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

I'm pretty sure when shit hits the fan and suddenly California can't live off federal welfare for it's massive deficit, they'll directly demand aid from the states they can reach nearby. Hell they already do the same thing with water rights -- sucking all the water from every state to the west of the Mississippi to fund several batshit insane ag industries that should have been left to die decades ago. (Almonds and IIRC Avocados).

Well that's the thing big chunks of California are fine and normal it's the coastal cities that cause problems. No more Federal Welfare would mean California would have to pull itself together to survive.

 

[Freedom Fighter]

Which is why I'm starting to suggest that people start looking more into helping out the Republican State Leadership Committee. Instead of pozzed federal elections like the GOP they focus on winning state houses on a state by state level.

uhhh, I don't know, chief.

 

[Canned Ham]

Which is why I'm starting to suggest that people start looking more into helping out the Republican State Leadership Committee. Instead of pozzed federal elections like the GOP they focus on winning state houses on a state by state level. And since it is not federal elections there is no cap on how much a person can donate. (Depending on State).

That faggot Karl Rove is one of their advisors.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

uhhh, I don't know, chief.

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The Republican Party leadership grew up with the Democrat Party leadership. They went to the same prep and Ivy League schools, they all got their starts at the same Wall Street and white shoe law firms, and many of them marry their relatives and each other. They share the same values because they’re the same people. So expecting them to be different is a fantasy. Ask Nick Fuentes how entryism worked with the Gay Old Perverts. Speaking of groypers:

That faggot Karl Rove is one of their advisors.

Just a reminder that one of Turdblossom’s catamites was Ali Alexander, who solicited naked photos of underage groypers.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

One more L for the dollar

https://www.reuters.com/world/india-ties-up-with-uae-settle-trade-rupees-2023-07-15/

https://archive.is/Gp1JL

 

[JustSomeDong]

One more L for the dollar
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https://www.reuters.com/world/india-ties-up-with-uae-settle-trade-rupees-2023-07-15/

https://archive.is/Gp1JL

The "DO NOT REDEEM" jokes write themselves.

 

[The Ugly One]

The nightmare scenario for statist WEF faggots is one where more than two states tell the feds to go fuck themselves for their latest mandate. The left has already set THAT precedent with their sanctuary city/state faggotry. Nice job fucking the llama, retards.

The reason sanctuary cities get away with it is both parties' leaders agree with their objectives. Republicans and Democrats alike would love it if we could just abolish immigration law entirely, but they politically can't get a bill passed without pissing off those pesky voters. Sanctuary cities allow them to say, "Aw, gee, what can I do? The city said it won't cooperate! Guess we'll just have to table this issue and get onto things Americans really care about, like sending HIMARS ammunition to Ukraine."

Imagine if a state declared it to be a sanctuary from federal bans on new automatic weapons. You'd see a very different outcome.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Imagine if a state declared it to be a sanctuary from federal bans on new automatic weapons. You'd see a very different outcome.

Some people are actually moving to do that, declare "2nd Ammendment sanctuaries" to get around to laws. And indeed for some reason they have a much harder time doing it than the immigration faggots ave.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Some people are actually moving to do that, declare "2nd Ammendment sanctuaries" to get around to laws. And indeed for some reason they have a much harder time doing it than the immigration faggots ave.

Well at that point the civvies are armed as well as the troops, possibly with more range time. Uncle Joe and the ATF can't have that now.

 

[Snekposter]

There's not a lot of precedent for it, but then again, long train of abuses and usurpations and so on.

All we need is a second Civil War so we can get lucky like those West Virginians did.

 

[The Last Stand]

And this was Meatball again trying to copy Trump, to sad effect. It just feels mean to see him think he's cool:

No lie, Trump influenced me to visit my DQ to get a Blizzard. If that's not marketing, I don't know what is.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

I just watched the Blaze interviews. I'm calling it. The last two standing will be Trump and Ramaswamy.

It's looking like it unless the press and the courts miraculously cancel Trump. Vivek is catching up to DeSantis in the polls fast.

 

[WelperHelper99]

It's looking like it unless the press and the courts miraculously cancel Trump. Vivek is catching up to DeSantis in the polls fast.

Interesting. Two rich guys duking it out. Honestly glad it isn't more of the same old uniparty vs Trump. We'll actually have a somewhat solid lineup- a miracle, and no doubt a upset to the swamp rats

 

[WeDon'tNeedToWhisper]

Allegedly, supposedly, my conspiracy is that Desantis has cut staff from his campaign. There's no official number, nor is there an actual source. The uh, African News guy posted it on twitter...

This is very embarrassing for Ron and could be the biggest mistake he ever made, at least as far as his political career goes.

I really like Ramaswamy, BUT, I'm so pessimistic/jaded that I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop, sadly.

I can appreciate RJK's stance on vaccines, especially since he's said that covid may have been "ethnically targeted" to save jews, lol.

Anyway, so glad I got that off my chest. whew

 

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Remember, none of the RINOs have to beat Trump. None of the bullshit fake DOJ campaigns have to stump Trump.

They just have to get him within rigging distance. In 2020 he wasn't in rigging distance and it literally cost them every ounce of credibility and political capital they had left, and then some, to push Biden's desiccated corpse over the finish line.

They have only lost power, influence, and capital since then.

They CANNOT rig it in the same way to the same extent next year. So they HAVE to blunt his campaign to the point that it's feasible with the remaining media power and political capital they have to claim "oh, guess people were just tired of Trump after all."

Meatball isn't supposed to win. It'd be great for them if he did, but his real purpose in life is to suck up time energy and resources that would otherwise go to Trump's 3rd election.