Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

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My only complaint is that they desecrated the venus of willendorf to make that meme. It's a european statuette (which, appropriately, might be made of oolite sourced from ukraine. maybe.)

anyway, she's not a nigger. it's just a tan.
 
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My only complaint is that they desecrated the venus of willendorf to make that meme. It's a european statuette (which, appropriately, might be made of oolite sourced from ukraine. maybe.)

anyway, she's not a nigger. it's just a tan.
It's a pre-indo-european statuette (made by some people only distantly related to present europeans) symbolizing BAP's concept of the longhouse, which is itself borrowed from a Lithuanian feminist revisionist historian Maria Gimbutas.
 
Judging by the slight move, it might be the supports got hit.
Russia was able to replace the previous road section quite quickly as it was a prefab. The supports are a different matter, and if they are undermined then the bridge is kaput.

Curious if its just the road or if the rail side got hit too. I'm going to assume this means that Ukrainian Command made the decision that giving Russia an evac route out of Crimea is less important than stopping supplies from reaching the southern front. I'm going go on a limb and guess that means they are setting in for a reality of no big breakthrough to the sea this year.(inb4 Vatniggers try sweep the fact in 5 weeks UKA took more territory than Russia's 'winter offensive' managed in 5-7 months)

That or maybe they are going to try going over the Dnieper; I haven't been keeping up with the latest maps, is Ukraine able to threaten the main rail line yet?

And yeah, if the supports got hit they are fucked. Its expensive but you can replace them... just not in a combat zone.
 
Rybar is saying that the explosion looks like it came from below, most likely a boat-drone. Sounds like a long trip to take from the closest Ukie controlled area by boat, but still. Question is how big the damage below is if that's where the explosion was.

That or maybe they are going to try going over the Dnieper; I haven't been keeping up with the latest maps, is Ukraine able to threaten the main rail line yet?
Probably the closest they are to the rail circulation in the south (Crimea -> Donetsk/Mariupol) is Tokmak, which is still ~25 km away from the front, but has seemingly been a focus for le push.
The ukes do still have forces on the left bank of the Dnieper in Kherson. They basically sent a small force over which has been camping underneath what's left of the Antonivka bridge, and the Ruskis have spent the past month (I think) trying to clear it. Hard to say what it will do but the ukes are at least pretty invested in having a presence on the russian side of the river, sending boats across to resupply/reinforce isn't pretty, but they keep doing it.
 
Probably the closest they are to the rail circulation in the south (Crimea -> Donetsk/Mariupol) is Tokmak, which is still ~25 km away from the front, but has seemingly been a focus for le push.
25km within arty range, but then your arty is going to be getting counter batteried like a motherfucker. I want to say I saw 10Km as the distance they could start impeding traffic.

Hard to say what it will do but the ukes are at least pretty invested in having a presence on the russian side of the river, sending boats across to resupply/reinforce isn't pretty, but they keep doing it.

Keeps the Russians off balance.
Makes it harder for Russia to detect if Ukrainians are upto anything major, gives them on-the-ground recon of the area, I would assume they infiltrated some special ops. Per my previous posts about issues crossing, they might be monitoring bank conditions and trying to find suitable bridgehead locations.
And probably just as importantly as all of that, you can and you are thumbing your noses at Russia saying you are there.


If you're doing this correctly you have a couple small teams you have dug in and rotating out regularly. If Russia decided to get ballsy and push them out, nothing you couldn't extract very easily. Good returns on minimal personnel/resource commitment.
 
If you're doing this correctly you have a couple small teams you have dug in and rotating out regularly. If Russia decided to get ballsy and push them out, nothing you couldn't extract very easily. Good returns on minimal personnel/resource commitment.
Yes, the lads at Antonivka have definitely been an annoyance to the Russians. They've seemingly thrown everything at them and they're still there. I wouldn't say that it's been a small investment for the Ukes though, because there's been quite a bit of footage of Ukie boats being blown up trying to resupply, but still probably worth it.

According to the telegrams, the problem is that the Ukes' artillery on the right bank is at a higher elevation and all around better at doing its job than the Ruskis' on the left bank, so they can't get close enough to clear it without getting blown the fuck up.

Big question is if it will remain a thorn in the side or if the Ukes will take this data and decide it's worth something bigger. We wouldn't know until it happens.
 
With regards to the grain deal, Turkey has maintained that they will continue to follow the plan irrespective of Moscows wishes. I wonder what the odds of an incident now are. The Turkish Navy is still escorting the grain ships out of Odessa, so it's not like Russia can actually stop the Turkish Navy. They could not gain sea supremacy over Ukraine itself, and Ukraine doesn't HAVE a Navy.
 
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