It's crazy if you think about it. It took Europe about a thousand years after the fall of rome to be able to put as many soldiers in the field consistently and supply them. And even then they usually weren't able to display power over a wide distance until the 17th and 18th century if we are being picky.
Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion
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You're gonna see the Banderites and the Communists/"Resistance Committees" hunting each other down if things fall apart and it will spread as they go back home.
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You have to scroll to the bottom and hit the right arrow for page 2. ZH should have linked to the exact post, but The Guardian's website is also poorly designed. This should go directly to the correct section:
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They kinda did not. Leadership was a problem, but performance on the ground was dodgy at best. The Rommel Myth is far too complex to discuss here, but let us say it was in the best interest of Allied propaganda to make a hero out of Rommel. The Eastern Front is cope central in Italian historiography, with incredibly minor actions lionized to an almost embarrassing level while their entire expedition was shattered and steamrolled by the Soviets. When your major claim to fame on the front is that "some of us barely managed to escape" you know shit on the ground was dire.
It gets worse if you analyze performance in theaters without Germans. The entire initial North African campaign (Operation Compass to contextualize it) gets worse every line you read about it. The Spanish expedition won in the end but was nonetheless embarrassing. And Greece was a shitshow of inhuman proportions. The only Victorious Conflict of Fascist Italy was against Ethiopia, and when you try your hand at colonization in 1936 because they threw you out with painful losses twice before... you have problems.
I'd almost say if a past conflict was a good parallel of this Ukrop mess, it's not Finland (the Soviets seriously were less incompetent than their heirs, and that's quite a feat) but Greece: the Italian attack was politically dubious, full of psychotic internecine service warfare, militarily embarrassing (the supposed army of a Major Power humbled and steadily pounded to dust by Greeks! Greeks!) and after a while ended up in a useless grind until the Great Ally saved Mussolini's ass. A thing that won't happen in Hoholistan.
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Honestly it sounds like they are covering their ass if the fight turns to a legal fight. Not sure who would arbitrate such a fight, but this was Russia has receipts of them defining what violates the rules of war only for the holhols to cross it.
... actually, the arbitration might be going on right now. By staunchly refusing to stoop to America's level, they are building a reputation of sticking to their principals through thick and thin, making them a more trustworthy trading partner and a country that negotiates in good faith. Something that Latin America has clearly taken note of.
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Yeah, as I said, this would only happen if Ukraine collapses and Poland comes in to take the scraps, which in itself is pretty unlikely, again, just some posturing from some Hungarians who are pissed off at the Ukrainians constantly raiding the area for Hungarians to throw in the meat-grinder.
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I don’t know if Russia is doing some 4D chess move for long term or anything, but one thing I know for sure is that the US sent cluster bombs and Ukraine is using it even though it goes against- oh wait, USA did not sign it nor Ukraine
I’m waiting for a news couple years after the war ended about some poor children found dead from leftover cluster bomb or mine. Vietnam and Cambodia are still minesweeping with some casualties each year from poor sods being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Looks like Russia didn't sign it either...I don’t know if Russia is doing some 4D chess move for long term or anything, but one thing I know for sure is that the US sent cluster bombs and Ukraine is using it even though it goes against- oh wait, USA did not sign it nor Ukraine
I’m waiting for a news couple years after the war ended about some poor children found dead from leftover cluster bomb or mine. Vietnam and Cambodia are still minesweeping with some casualties each year from poor sods being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Let’s pray that your theory of keeping the trustworthy look is true. Cluster munition harms civilians in the long run, just like minefield.
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I don't think Russia's leadership care that they look like clowns. They also don't seem to care about optics or twitter clout.
They seem fine to now just sit back and let hohol's come to them in waves to die. Letting the west keep lighting billions on fire every month.
Artillery shells are cheap and something russia can make. Mines are cheap and something they can make. Just hunkering down and keeping the meat grinder grinding seems to be their plan now.
If a red line is crossed is there even anything good left worth bombing in Ukraine?
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To be fair to the UAF, mineclearing these days hasn't changed much. It's still inch forward, identify and disarm (blow up/move) mines. Mostly because electronic fuzes designed to be blast wave tolerant (So explosive line charges don't work as well) and non-metallic mines.
Reminds me of a video of a bunch of RFAF guys at the beginning of the SMO clearing AT mines with feet shoving them aside lol. I guess the sappers forgot to set anti-handling devices on those.
The actual IADS of the RFAF is this:
Descending from individual to theatre based weapons
- Strela/Igla series (Infantry MANPADS)
- Strela-10 (Vehicle based lowlevel ADS, relatively mobile)
- Tunguska/Panstir/Shosna (SPAAG, low-mid level, short range relatively mobile)
- Osa-AKM (Mid level, short range radar/guided SAM, mobile "all in one" with it's FCS/Search radar and missile launcher all integrated, very unique piece like NASAMS)
- Tor (Mid level, short range SAM, Anti-missile platform)
- S-300/S-400 (Mid-High level, SAM/ABM)
- S-500 (High level SAM/ABM).
- A-135 (Stationary ABM role, only in Moscow I think)
- Stinger, Javelin (MANPADS)
- Humvee Avenger (More mobile than strela-10, not amphibious, less range as it is just base manpad and not improved)
- LAV-AD (SPAAG, no radar compared to Shosna or Tunguska)
- Centurion C-RAM (Stationary Point defense, Radar)
- Enduring Shield (Repurposed MRL with 18 x Sidewinders... LRIP and only like 4 in existence)
- PATRIOT or MIM-104 (ABM, high level SAM)
- THAAD (ABM role)
Yeah but if you're fighting the Russian IADS system, you're gonna end up hitting a Tunguska, Osa or Tor versus an S-300/400 most of the time. Whereas in the US system, only the CRAM (can be safely avoided) or the Patriot have active radars on them so you just lost a really expensive piece versus a not so expensive piece.
Leave the jamming to the two seaters (EA-18G or the retired F-111A) though, it's hard enough flying a plane without screwing the math for it. The US has the advantage vs the RFAF here with DRFM jamming especially against the newer ASEA radars. No doubt the Chinese are giving some of their ASEA radars to test against that though.
I'm going to remind everyone in the 90s the Soviets tested some "eletro-optical complexes" (Directed Energy Weapon) SAM systems. 1K11 Sanguine or it's successor, the 11K7 Compression. The later mounted on a Mista-S chassis,having 30kg of rubies to fire a 12 beam laser to down missiles/helos. Also could be used in a direct fire role to fry your eye sockets in a tank at 20km. Unfortunately, they only built 2 and more or less gave up after the collapse on these. Pretty sure we'll see a return of the 1K11 laser mounted on old Shilkas sometime...
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The war is in the Star Citizen development cycle currently.
Just 2 more weeks lads.
Just 2 more weeks lads.
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The khokhly are ethnically cleansing the area. They have a lot of restrictions on Hungarian language there (and IIRC Romanian language in the regions the Soviets stole from Romania to add to Hrukraine). It is also well-observed that soldiers from that oblast as well as Odessa (which has ethnic Romanians) are overrepresented in the soldiers being sent to the front.
I mean at least they did better than the Romanians.
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Trust the Soviets to invent the prism tank IRL. I hope they restart this just so we can relive our C&C nostalgia in real time.
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Just remember to keep an eye on your Tiberium Harvesters and Refineries, a lot of room for fuckery in there and you need them to build more units.
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Does this make sense? Make it make sense.
Lord of the Rings was so much easier to understand
This makes a bit more sense to me but still
Lord of the Rings was so much easier to understand
This makes a bit more sense to me but still
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Hey, we even have bald man with dubious motives and an army fanatically loyal to him.
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Ukraine is surpressing minority languages across the board. Funnily enough nobody ever mentiones that in the West.
It doesn't make any sense but I am here for the Wagner march to Berlin. The content will be fire
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Given the ubiquity of drones I suspect we're going to see much more APS on armored vehicles going forward. Probably laser-based anti drone systems as well because they can beat missile and gun based anti-air on a cost per shot basis.