BreadTube - The Unofficial ContraPoints Dickriders Club and the culture / drama surrounding the community.

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

In my opinion anything youtube pushes is not leftist by default. They just kinda want progressive politics because it makes more money.

Maybe in terms of ESG. They sure as hell aren't getting money otherwise, especially not with fatigue setting in.

But let's be honest, the whole idea that progressivism, or identity politics, is a tool used by the capitalists to subvert leftist movements is leftypol cope.

Neo marxists actually understand this far better than old-school leftists do: culture matters a hell of a lot more than economic, or materialistic matters. That's something that neo-liberals, ancaps, and old-school marxists and leftists will never, EVER understand, and why they will always fail or be subverted by their enemies.

That's why they decided to move onto other forms of conflict other than class-based conflict, they didn't succeed in stirring up contention between economic classes in the west (especially not in America, and especially not when both capitalists and government officials decided to actually GIVE the unions what they demanded), so they decided that racial conflict, or conflict based on other things like religion, gender, or alternative lifestyles, would be much easier.

Identity politics or neo-marxism isn't a new development by scheming capitalists who wanted to subvert and weaken the Occupy Wall Street movement either. Such ideologies were invented by the Frankfurt School, and were widespread amongst the left during the 60s and 70s, especially the SDS and Weather Underground. Anti-white racism, "anti-colonialism," hell, they even outright expressed contempt for the white working class because they were so "reactionary."

Sure, it could be argued that the Frankfurt School wanted identity politics and other aspects of woke politics to be a part of an acceleration campaign (to encourage and amplify what they saw to be the worst excesses of capitalism so that it would implode on itself), but most leftists don't see it that way. They genuinely believe that critical race theory, pornography classes for children, homosexuality, crossdressing, and anarcho-tyranny are genuinely left-wing movements to get behind.

They can't accept the possibility that they serve no purpose but to subvert society. In other words, accelerationism. And old-school, class-based marxists are entirely unwilling to move beyond class conflict, despite their inability to actually create any class warfare EXCEPT through the accelerationism I just described. Despite the fact that "It's the economy, stupid," is an extremely myopic way to see the world, the main reason why communist revolutions never got off the ground except in the most backwards of countries, contrary to what Marx predicted.

Leftypol leftists lose because they cannot move beyond purely materialistic explanations for anything that happens in society. Woke neo-marxists lose because they're tools by corporate authoritarians and self-righteous capitalists who know damned well that these stupid rich kids care more about "social justice" and faggot "rights" than about the actual working class or about poorer countries across the world.

Any high ideal that marxists claim to fight for, no matter what denomination they belong to, is nothing but a smokescreen, a mirage that they use as an excuse to tear everyone else down to their level. Hence why all it takes for marxists to return to their vomit, even after being proven wrong time and time again, are stupid words games like "not real communism." It's happening now, and it's nothing short of hilarious that even woke leftists are being dismissed as "not real communism" as it's becoming increasingly clear that they're useful idiots for state capitalists.

You know, like very single communist revolutionary ever.

 

[Wikipedia]

Any high ideal that marxists claim to fight for, no matter what denomination they belong to, is nothing but a smokescreen, a mirage that they use as an excuse to tear everyone else down to their level. Hence why all it takes for marxists to return to their vomit, even after being proven wrong time and time again, are stupid words games like "not real communism." It's happening now, and it's nothing short of hilarious that even woke leftists are being dismissed as "not real communism" as it's becoming increasingly clear that they're useful idiots for state capitalists.

You know, like very single communist revolutionary ever.

I agree on some level for alot it is a smoke screen for their own personal pet peeves and want to bring everyone down to their level. I have talked to many far-left and radical leftist who genuinely believe that they are trying make a better world. And to think all of them are useful idiots is close minded when looking at the goals of leftist and is just a way dismiss them out of hand, both are silly. I don't agree with many modern leftist in what they are trying to do, well I've been disillusioned with most of the left for awhile now.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

 

[Rudolf's Friend]

Another comment mentions how Shaun "deradicalized" them in the way ContraPoints did. Considering Shaun has been wrong from race, crime and IQ to immigration I find this difficult to believe.

Honestly I have never seen someone who has actually and legitimately been "deradicalized" by Breadtube. Everyone who has claimed that they were "deradicalized" either had milquetoast anti-SJW opinions that basically were "SJWs bad because they are" or people who were always leftists and just pulled some bullshit story that they were part of the "Alt-right" until Contrapoints or some other Breadtuber pulled them out, like I remember this one breadtuber who claimed he got "deradicalized" got outed as being so obviously fake, forgot his name though but you could obviously tell this dude was never part of any Right wing group.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Honestly I have never seen someone who has actually and legitimately been "deradicalized" by Breadtube. Everyone who has claimed that they were "deradicalized" either had milquetoast anti-SJW opinions that basically were "SJWs bad because they are" or people who were always leftists and just pulled some bullshit story that they were part of the "Alt-right" until Contrapoints or some other Breadtuber pulled them out, like I remember this one breadtuber who claimed he got "deradicalized" got outed as being so obviously fake, forgot his name though but you could obviously tell this dude was never part of any Right wing group.

What I find especially hilarious, aside from the fact that these so-called "anti-SJWs" clearly had no real convictions in the first place if they're telling the truth, are RADICAL left wingers claiming to "DERADICALIZE" people.

As if anarcho-maoism, being white Uncle Toms for black supremacists, misanderism, or the blatant anti-human ideology that is transgenderism, is in any way, shape or form, "moderate" or "mainstream."

 

[LeChampion1992]

Honestly I have never seen someone who has actually and legitimately been "deradicalized" by Breadtube. Everyone who has claimed that they were "deradicalized" either had milquetoast anti-SJW opinions that basically were "SJWs bad because they are" or people who were always leftists and just pulled some bullshit story that they were part of the "Alt-right" until Contrapoints or some other Breadtuber pulled them out, like I remember this one breadtuber who claimed he got "deradicalized" got outed as being so obviously fake, forgot his name though but you could obviously tell this dude was never part of any Right wing group.

Most of the Deradicalized alt right types are almost always milqtoast liberals who update their tastes to be more in line with current year or are racist liberals who overcompensate for using the N word that one time. To people on the left conservatives are evil and hold back progress so we are side good because we're for side progress.

 

[The_Bladder_Splatter]

culture matters a hell of a lot more than economic, or materialistic matters. That's something that neo-liberals, ancaps, and old-school marxists and leftists will never, EVER understand, and why they will always fail or be subverted by their enemies.

THIS^, this is why the atheist "revolution" of the early 2000s was destined to fail and be devoured by wokism, they weren't capable of seeing anything beyond their objetivist and materialist views and as a result they have inadvertently transformed into the main promotors of neo marxism, Pen Gillete? His own son trooned out and now he is a huge chill of trannydom, The Humanist lobby? They are prominent promoters of black leftism to the point of advovating for slave reparations, The Skeptic community? They got tore inside out by shit like Atheism+ and most of the prominent mainstream leaders are now full on neo marxists (although they will never recognize this)

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

Leftypol leftists lose because they cannot move beyond purely materialistic explanations for anything that happens in society. Woke neo-marxists lose because they're tools by corporate authoritarians and self-righteous capitalists who know damned well that these stupid rich kids care more about "social justice" and faggot "rights" than about the actual working class or about poorer countries across the world.

Leftists have no experience of the real world outside of their sheltered conditions. They look down on the blue collared workers they themselves propagate as heroes. They only support the idea of "progress" yet won't have the stomach for actual change outside of token gestures and empty handed promises. Whenever one of the Left's own speak out against their own for hypocrisy, the individual will be cannibalized by the others for wrongthink.

Anyways, here's a video of Mr. Mulder seething about Alternate History:

 

[KittyGremlin]

Leftists have no experience of the real world outside of their sheltered conditions. They look down on the blue collared workers they themselves propagate as heroes. They only support the idea of "progress" yet won't have the stomach for actual change outside of token gestures and empty handed promises. Whenever one of the Left's own speak out against their own for hypocrisy, the individual will be cannibalized by the others for wrongthink.

Anyways, here's a video of Mr. Mulder seething about Alternate History:

Because it is and always was about power. And if they started to actually fix the issues they complain about, they would forfeit their claim to it.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Because it is and always was about power. And if they started to actually fix the issues they complain about, they would forfeit their claim to it.

Benjamin Tucker once said that the surefire way to turn an anarchist into an authoritarian (or "conservative" in his exact words) is to give him power.

Whatever leftists, or even left-liberals, want to abolish, they will never, ever give up when it falls into their hands. Private property, ownership of a business, ownership of firearms, institutional power, government power, etc.

It's hypocrisy, sure. But on the other hand, it's them realizing, deep down, that those things cannot truly be abolished, period, and it's suicidally stupid to give it up because their enemies sure as hell won't.

As hypocritical as it is, one must realize that you cannot argue for, or fight for, your ideals from a position of weakness, and even they realize it at some level. The ones that do are incredibly cucked, and we make fun of them for actually following through with their soy-inspired ideals.

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

Benjamin Tucker once said that the surefire way to turn an anarchist into an authoritarian (or "conservative" in his exact words) is to give him power.

Whatever leftists, or even left-liberals, want to abolish, they will never, ever give up when it falls into their hands. Private property, ownership of a business, ownership of firearms, institutional power, government power, etc.

It's hypocrisy, sure. But on the other hand, it's them realizing, deep down, that those things cannot truly be abolished, period, and it's suicidally stupid to give it up because their enemies sure as hell won't.

As hypocritical as it is, one must realize that you cannot argue for, or fight for, your ideals from a position of weakness, and even they realize it at some level. The ones that do are incredibly cucked, and we make fun of them for actually following through with their soy-inspired ideals.

As the saying goes "If you want to test a man's character, give him power"

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

As the saying goes "If you want to test a man's character, give him power"

Oh, it goes way beyond their character. It's the realization that actually following through with their beliefs makes them weak and impotent, easy to crush by their enemies.

That's why the "hypocritical" ones survive, and the true believers are killed.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Honestly I have never seen someone who has actually and legitimately been "deradicalized" by Breadtube. Everyone who has claimed that they were "deradicalized" either had milquetoast anti-SJW opinions that basically were "SJWs bad because they are" or people who were always leftists and just pulled some bullshit story that they were part of the "Alt-right" until Contrapoints or some other Breadtuber pulled them out, like I remember this one breadtuber who claimed he got "deradicalized" got outed as being so obviously fake, forgot his name though but you could obviously tell this dude was never part of any Right wing group.

Most times when you hear stories of people being Deradicalized it's some normal maga teenager in 2017 turns into trans rights communist of 2021 because they thought opposing George Floyd or riots was right wing. Quite often many of these people get radicalized to the left because they're programming of Nazis bad kicks in.

Leftists have no experience of the real world outside of their sheltered conditions. They look down on the blue collared workers they themselves propagate as heroes. They only support the idea of "progress" yet won't have the stomach for actual change outside of token gestures and empty handed promises. Whenever one of the Left's own speak out against their own for hypocrisy, the individual will be cannibalized by the others for wrongthink.

Anyways, here's a video of Mr. Mulder seething about Alternate History:

I swear it seems to be anytime people start having escapist fun you see not far behind leftists trying to call it a right wing rabbit hole and get it banned and deplatformed off the platform.

THIS^, this is why the atheist "revolution" of the early 2000s was destined to fail and be devoured by wokism, they weren't capable of seeing anything beyond their objetivist and materialist views and as a result they have inadvertently transformed into the main promotors of neo marxism, Pen Gillete? His own son trooned out and now he is a huge chill of trannydom, The Humanist lobby? They are prominent promoters of black leftism to the point of advovating for slave reparations, The Skeptic community? They got tore inside out by shit like Atheism+ and most of the prominent mainstream leaders are now full on neo marxists (although they will never recognize this)

I mean it's sad but the thing is I like guys like penn Gillette and it's sad to see them go so far into tds, atheism + rabbit hole but then again I'm reminded that Penn Gillette is still a boomer and as a boomer he is clueless about the reality the youth live. He doesn't understand the LGBTQ lobby isn't the we just want to live our lives anymore crowd. It's taken over by I want to burn down church's and turn the kids of people who bullied me in highschool gay and trans to get revenge at the cis society. I think he doesn't want to comprehend that since his son is a troon.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Quite often many of these people get radicalized to the left because they're programming of Nazis bad kicks in.

More like them trying to win popularity contests.

When making fun of SJWs was popular, they made fun of SJWs, especially those who apparently made it their life's mission to destroy culture related things. Popular media, cultural elements of the past, etc.


Especially since many of them made fun of Jack Thompson previously, and it's not unfair to compare Anita Sarkeesian to Jack Thompson.

Alas, other than that, many of them were pretty flaky otherwise, and once major social media platforms made it haram to make fun of SJWs, they ditched it as well and moved on to what would push them ahead in the algorithm.

 

[Mumbo Jumbo]

As if anarcho-maoism, being white Uncle Toms for black supremacists, misanderism, or the blatant anti-human ideology that is transgenderism, is in any way, shape or form, "moderate" or "mainstream."

Even though those position are undoubtedly radical, sadly, I wouldnt say they "arent mainstream".

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

https://twitter.com/shaun_vids/status/1682883590789509126

defending Japanese ultra-nationalism to own the chuds

 

[Mumbo Jumbo]

https://twitter.com/shaun_vids/status/1682883590789509126

defending Japanese ultra-nationalism to own the chuds

Same people who want to culturally subvery japan and also accuse it of being a patriarchal and sexist society because anime has sexualized women.
A great little gem I found
She literally openly talks about using communist, socialist, and feminist theory in order to "fix" Japan.

Also, the Kavernacle is at it again, defending a movie made by a multi billion dollar corporation to own the chuds. I love the common socialist cope that "these organizations dont actually care about us, they just pretend to in order to profit off of us! It's all rainbow capitalism! So therefore, we are still the underdogs in society!". And yet, these same faggots tend to defend these woke and politically motivated capitalist products to own the chuds anyways (and its quite the coincidence that every movie nowadays spreads their message, right? It's surely just to profit off of leftists and totally isnt meant to actually spread a narrative upon society).

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I love the common socialist cope that "these organizations dont actually care about us, they just pretend to in order to profit off of us! It's all rainbow capitalism! So therefore, we are still the underdogs in society!". And yet, these same faggots tend to defend these woke and politically motivated capitalist products to own the chuds anyways (and its quite the coincidence that every movie nowadays spreads their message, right? It's surely just to profit off of leftists and totally isnt meant to actually spread a narrative upon society).

That's because they care a hell of a lot more about their "right" to dishonor and disobey their own parents and be utter degenerates than about abolishing capitalism. They hate traditionalists, conservatives, and reactionaries much more than rich capitalists, even at times when the two are at odds with each other.

It's actually appropriate, as "capitalism" is just a buzzword coined by Karl Marx, to refer to anything about society they arbitrarily hate, not something more concrete like free markets or neoliberalism.

I can't help but find it interesting that it's yet another instance that wickedness never was happiness: they're filled with so much loathing for their fellow man that they even despise the very system that enables them in their degenerate lifestyles, that being neoliberalism.

If they thought that nazism was a better means to destroy society (and didn't earn them the ire of both their peers and normies), they'd go for that instead.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

That's because they care a hell of a lot more about their "right" to dishonor and disobey their own parents and be utter degenerates than about abolishing capitalism. They hate traditionalists, conservatives, and reactionaries much more than rich capitalists, even at times when the two are at odds with each other.

It's actually appropriate, as "capitalism" is just a buzzword coined by Karl Marx, to refer to anything about society they arbitrarily hate, not something more concrete like free markets or neoliberalism.

I can't help but find it interesting that it's yet another instance that wickedness never was happiness: they're filled with so much loathing for their fellow man that they even despise the very system that enables them in their degenerate lifestyles, that being neoliberalism.

If they thought that nazism was a better means to destroy society (and didn't earn them the ire of both their peers and normies), they'd go for that instead.

neoliberalism does not exist whatsoever it is a concept created by new left weirdos because their former comrades in the new Left started becoming extremely corrupt when they get into Power people like Bill Clinton Barack Obama .
Francis fukuyama's end of history is inherently a Marxist idea

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Francis fukuyama's end of history is inherently a Marxist idea

When I first heard the idea, I thought it was an intentionally ironic figure of speech (I first heard it from Calvin and Hobbes, that's probably why). There's no such thing as an "end of history" with the possible exception of human extinction.

Good to know that marxists are not being ironic when they bring up the topic, and that they really are that fucking retarded.

neoliberalism does not exist whatsoever it is a concept created by new left weirdos because their former comrades in the new Left started becoming extremely corrupt when they get into Power people like Bill Clinton Barack Obama .

Oh right, weren't those two friends with some SDS and Weather Underground weirdos?

You know, proto SJWs who went around and bombed the shit out of various things?