Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

If nothing else, it might give gun-based AA a fresh breath of life. Those small caliber cannons and flak rounds may not kill (jet) aircraft anymore, but they can definitely shred drones. The trick is actually finding the bastards, so I suspect there will be a rat race to see who can invent something that can detect drones.
There's not really that much of a technical limit - Nobody bothered making much radar that could pick up something that small and slow because it would inevitably just detect a lot of fucking birds airborne weapons don't tend to be palm sized. Now that drones are more prolific, making radar that can see a quadcopter isn't the most difficult thing - Bird don't tend to hover or sideslip. The technology for high resolution radar has existed for decades, and modern computing makes filtering out false positives a lot easier. And with a gun based AA, false positives are less of a concern anyway - The local area will run out of drone shaped birds well before you run out of ammunition. The main downside is that your radar is going to be extremely easy to detect and find.
Anti-drone weapons could be a niche that Laser weaponry can fulfil, it wouldn't take too much energy to fry a small drone, and the fact the energy travels at the speed of light means you don't need to do too much to compensate for movement, just track the target and lase away.
The energy would be a problem, and the sheer size required to do so. Keeping the beam focused on a drone that could be a couple kilometers away is a feat in of itself on multiple levels, and your weapons platform is going to be half generators and amplifiers to get the needed juice. You could get similar effect on target with a hail of regular bullets, since both require line of sight, and the guns will cost you far less.

If you want to use an energy weapon to deal with a drone that you have line of sight on, interference is the way to go. Those anti-drone antenna rifles, just scaled up, blast the thing across the em spectrum to ensure the controller can't use it. Most drone autonomy at any size is restrained to "Keep flying" at best - quads will just hover or go to land. If they land, odds are they tangle up or land poorly - functionally mission killed if you can't take off without breaking a rotor. If it just hovers, then you come back to the gun based solution, against a stationary target. Couldn't be easier then. Still has the radar issue of lighting up like a christmas tree on EM though.
 
Quadcopters are noisy, both in EM and in actual sound. I don’t see why you couldn’t detect them with a passive sensor and then only actively ping once you have a high likelihood of successfully engaging it.
 
Is the skeevy jew keeping Zelensky's cocaine stash for himself?

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I mean, I guess if you you count all the wide swaths of land that Russia "took" (but never held) in their slapdash rush on Kiev at the start of last year, then yeah this could technically be true.
That's exactly what Blinken means. The use of the present perfect tense, "Ukraine has retaken ..." conveys that this is cumulative from the beginning of the Special Military Operation until today. Fake News is misleadingly reporting Blinken's statement, implying that the Ukraine retook all that territory recently, thanks to the NATO wunderwaffen. Of course that was Blinken's intention. What they're counting is the Kiev suburbs, Kharkov, all of that bullshit. Since the early days of the Special Military Operation, Russia has retained roughly one-sixth of the Ukraine's putative territory, a proportion that has remained constant since autumn 2022.
 
Quadcopters are noisy, both in EM and in actual sound. I don’t see why you couldn’t detect them with a passive sensor and then only actively ping once you have a high likelihood of successfully engaging it.
To counter them you don't even need fancy stationary laser installations like we're sending them. Just rework a standard man portable jammer lol. Make it PTT and slap a cone antenna on it to drastically extend your range.

You don't need to give everyone one but it'd be nice to have several just in case. The videos that the Russians are putting out with their drone warfare make me rage not because "durr vatnigger durrr" bullshit but the fact that the Ukrainians seem to have no sense of self preservation, they all just stop and sit there and wait for more explosives to hit them. If we're only teaching them IED reaction drills I guess that would make sense for their odd behavior but after the 2nd and 3rd suicide drone strikes within the couple hours you'd probably realize that you didn't stumble into a minefield and that it ought to be time to GTFO. There definitely has to be weird ass Iraqi military shit going on with them, afraid to act without explicit orders to do so.
 
Poland deserves not a single inch of clay, it would make perfect sense for Belarus and Russia to help west Ukraine with those issues.
 
Point your antidrone laser at infantry and you’ve got an automatic war crime machine.
I'll have you know the PLA (China) has a APS system that is designed exactly to fry the optics with a laser and presumably blind the gunners of enemy tanks.
The trick is actually finding the bastards, so I suspect there will be a rat race to see who can invent something that can detect drones.
It's probably going to be split between front-line and indirect fire units for that.
I think a detached (loitering drone) works best, especially if you can lift it above the treeline to give better line of sight. Simple IR+radar sensor. Combined with PIVADS like minigun with a laser rangerfinder/jammer in the center.

For indirect fire units (artillery) I was thinking we might be seeing the return of military hot air balloons lol. Cheap, stationary and just need to confuse and prevent the drones from suicide diving into the target.
Next thing you know he'll be discovering valuable resources and increasing his military via funding from said resources.
What about the Wagner gold mines???? Wagner's already got the chants down.
Peace through superior firepower!
 
There's been a drone attack in Moscow. Reportedly two drones hit the upper levels of a non residential building. Attack happened just before 4am. Haven't seen much else yet because it's fresh.
The drone hit the Moscow offices of a French home improvement company! LMFAO!!!


[EDIT: some are saying the damage came from Russian air defenses but I've learned from UKR that means it's still their fault]
 
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I think a detached (loitering drone) works best, especially if you can lift it above the treeline to give better line of sight. Simple IR+radar sensor. Combined with PIVADS like minigun with a laser rangerfinder/jammer in the center.

For indirect fire units (artillery) I was thinking we might be seeing the return of military hot air balloons lol. Cheap, stationary and just need to confuse and prevent the drones from suicide diving into the target.
It is the nature of war that these things will compete on both sides of the equation, which makes me think the long term winner will be dependent on iteration times. If team A deploys a minigun with drone spotters to shoot down drones, team B deploys cheap decoys to draw fire and enable counterbattery fire on the minigun part, or extremely cheap false positives in bulk. Keep the minigun busy firing at Chinese lanterns while the useful drones have a smaller signature. The particulars of any given solution and counter-solution are unimportant: The key is that if they always exist then the winner becomes dependent on how well and quickly the next solution can be thought up, designed, produced, and deployed. It is time to drag war to a whole new form of hell: Agile development.

That said, barrage balloons hoisting up a lattice of fishing line does sound like a cheap way to wall out drones in a variety of practical situations. It would likely need a partnered solution to catch anything going over the wall, and considerations for responding to attempts to overwhelm.
 
Looks like Russia is breaking through the Ukrainian lines in several places in the north.
Its not much, its along the border between the Lughansk and Kharkov oblast meet right where the Donetsk region also borders it. We're talking a single farm field or two. This isn't some massive breakthrough, just the usual inching forward.
 
It is time to drag war to a whole new form of hell: Agile development.
This is not the kind of Sprint Planning I signed up for.

Its not much, its along the border between the Lughansk and Kharkov oblast meet right where the Donetsk region also borders it. We're talking a single farm field or two. This isn't some massive breakthrough, just the usual inching forward.
Yea, nothing major as an action. However, it does speak to the Russian Attitude towards the counter offensive at this point - They feel sufficiently secure in the whole thing to start their advance again, no need to redirect those men and materials to points under attack. That's probably not what the Ukranians want to see - If your throwing everything you have at the wall, you'd hope the wall at least stops and notices.
 
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