Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Saint Agustin]

In my limited experience with pooners, they almost all will  claim to be on the autistic spectrum (whether that's been professionally diagnosed or not), in part because autism is way more prevalent in boys, thus feeding into their delusion, and as a sort of a "get out of jail free card" to deflect any criticism of their horrible life choices onto "muh neurodiversity."

Again, another example on why autism is a blanket term doctors use to explain stupidity.

"Oh no no! Your kid isn't stupid! He has autism, see? He thinks and does stupid thing but because my medical diagnosis is that it has autism and is INCURABLE! and yes he/she will be autistic all his/her life and you will have to support it without question!"

 

[TruffleSpark]

I guess my random thought and musing is to what degree is everyone just pretending? To what degree does everyone know this is bullshit but they are just going along with it anyway?

I watched this clip of Piers Morgan arguing with three broads about a "trans non-binary" soccer player. And even though the ladies were insistent that her they/them pronouns are *valid* they also constantly misgender her over the course of the clip. So they don't actually think of her as "they/them", they're just pretending in order to be polite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anlwLZGmsS8

I was doing this to not long ago. Because I thought that I wasn't doing any harm to go along with it. I figured even if it didn't make sense to me I wasn't doing any harm to respect people's wishes. But aren't we just doing the equivalent of telling a schizophrenic that the voices are real. Trannies are manipulative narcissists at best and delusional at worst. People can call me a "transphobe" and accuse me of hating them if they want. But I feel like I'm one of the few people actually trying to help them. I want them to get better, their own allies are encouraging medical self harm. It's like how Nikocado Avocado's a-logs actually seemed to care more about his health than his fans. Telling him he was a fat fuck was exactly what he needed to hear. Terminal politeness does nothing to help people committing self harm.

Official trans ideology is that being trans is an innate part of who you are. Not something you choose to become. They insist that trans people have always existed. But my question is did they? Or was this just the medical industry creating demand for new products by gaslighting people into a new personality disorder? I know there are people who lived the social role of the opposite gender in the past. But trans ideology is that you literally are the opposite gender. Did women who disguised themselves as men literally believe they were men? As far as I know the one historical figure prior to the 1920s who expressed a desire to literally become the opposite sex was that one batty Roman emperor. And given how reliable ancient sources are who even knows if that's true.

 

[One Quick Post]

Thinking about it, I actually feel pretty bad for people who were born intersex. Imagine being born with a debilitating, serious disability with awful medical complications and a fucked up sense of identity, and these crossdressing rapists come along and press-gang you into being part of this alphabet mob pride nonsense, which comes with all the sociopolitical backlash against that which they cause, complete with putting a tacky circle on the progress chevron to represent you. Except they don't give a shit at all, intersex issues mean less than dirt to them, much like everything else in the alphabet soup the "I" is just more cannon fodder for the "T" to hide behind.

 

[TruffleSpark]

Thinking about it, I actually feel pretty bad for people who were born intersex. Imagine being born with a debilitating, serious disability with awful medical complications and a fucked up sense of identity, and these crossdressing rapists come along and press-gang you into being part of this alphabet mob pride nonsense, which comes with all the sociopolitical backlash against that which they cause, complete with putting a tacky circle on the progress chevron to represent you. Except they don't give a shit at all, intersex issues mean less than dirt to them, much like everything else in the alphabet soup the "I" is just more cannon fodder for the "T" to hide behind.

The "biological men in womens sport" debate started with Caster Semenya. Unfortunate that this shit started with an intersex person who at least had a biological reason to identify as female even if they technically weren't. Caster seems to be an outlier amongst intersexes though. Whereas Lia Thomas's rapey AGP ass is pretty normal for troons who gain access to womens spaces.

 

[TruffleSpark]

double post but I was just thinking that whoever added the T to LGBT was history's most effective homophobe

 

[Church Lurker]

@TruffleSpark, The quote feature won't work for some reason,

Yeah, that random thought and musing of how many people are really just playing to be polite has always been in my head for awhile now. I feel like there's a lot more people who really do think this is all just nonsense but in order not to invoke the wrath of the tranny menace they just keep quiet. I really hope the idea of a silent majority is real because to think about trans stuff for even a second and not realize its ridiculous seems odd to me

 

[TruffleSpark]

@TruffleSpark, The quote feature won't work for some reason,

Yeah, that random thought and musing of how many people are really just playing to be polite has always been in my head for awhile now. I feel like there's a lot more people who really do think this is all just nonsense but in order not to invoke the wrath of the tranny menace they just keep quiet. I really hope the idea of a silent majority is real because to think about trans stuff for even a second and not realize its ridiculous seems odd to me

Emperor's New Clothes ass society we are living in. I wouldn't say I was playing pretend exactly, but I did buy the "here's the difference between sex and gender" argument for a long time. I gritted my teeth when I saw trans people and their allies bulldoze past it. It's only in hindsight that I realize that they never really believed it to begin with and it was just a way to sell trans ideology to sceptical normies.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Some go super far, autistically naming themselves shit like "Blue" or nonsensical nonbianary name you'd hear on a dog because they're socially and bodily disconnected. They might want to be seen as concepts, objects, or animals they love and relate to more than normal people.

When troons hop between names, it can be as little as incovience (Elizabeth is too long, going to Mia), to not feeling the name anymore, to shaking off old feelings associated with that name (Taylor was my embarrassing early transition associated with breaking up, call me Avery now). Or it's "I burned all my social media bridges and must go from Selina to Cassandra/Cassie to hide on twitter and discord." It's switching usernames on social media, but for real life.

I have been following this personal lolcow a pooner and ex-hooker named "Evan" (old username was boyevan) since stumbling upon her in Web 1.0 days. I just checked my personal archive and the wayback machine and alas no record survives of this era, but for a time around 2003 she changed her name to "property" to reflect what she felt was a "femme boy" role in relation to her "dom" (who was also an obese Canadian pooner).

Anyhow, now she's a Pretendian and a minister for the Church of Canada, which is fitting.

 

[Jacques1194]

I guess my random thought and musing is to what degree is everyone just pretending? To what degree does everyone know this is bullshit but they are just going along with it anyway?

Honestly, its so difficult to say really because the amount of young people online that are obsessed with gender ideology is insane to me.I think some of these people generally believe that if they dont fit into 100% stereotypes of their sex that they aren't that sex/gender.For example there's this one girl i know who identifies as non binary, and she looks like the typical girl that would identify as such.Basically, she's a nerdy geek who loves the resident evil series.My hope is that as she gets older she realizes how this whole thing is bullshit and that it's ok for a girl to like geeky horror games.The amount of damage that trans ideology has done to both teens and young people is really sad.

 

[Real Mayun]

Biosex denialism and cultural appropriation are wishy-washy spiritual beliefs that I once thought the left didn't stand for.

 

[TruffleSpark]

Biosex denialism and cultural appropriation are wishy-washy spiritual beliefs that I once thought the left didn't stand for.

are you still trooning out? your mix of masochism and grandiosity is very unhealthy and trooning out doesn't seem to be helping

 

[Real Mayun]

are you still trooning out? your mix of masochism and grandiosity is very unhealthy and trooning out doesn't seem to be helping

Does your name happen to be Carolina?

I'm pro-trans but also pro-acknowledging that biosex is real, and I think cultural appropriation is an excuse for leftists to be gatekeeping snobbish regressive purists.

 

[Pentaborane]

So Blanchard's typology of troons is a good start but it's not complete with regard to internet troons. Did anyone bother making a more complex classification? I'd do it like that;

• Transsexuals. Exhibit wish to be the opposite sex from early childhood, but isn't groomed by munchie parents, troons, and isn't a victim of sexual abuse.
• Transgenders.
  • Kids groomed into trooning out by parents or other troons (so-called 'egg hatching').
  • Teenagers with mental issues, including but not limited to autism, as well as victims of bullying or isolation.
  • AGP's.
  • HSTS that want to troon out during puberty or later (no AGP traits, no grooming, no mental issues). Does this category even exist?

So transsexuals are usually fine with people not wanting to pretend that they're the opposite sex. How about HSTS that weren't radicalized? AGP can react violently, such as making a scene, threatening or hitting someone.

Is something missing from this classification? Is it useful?

 

[TruffleSpark]

Does your name happen to be Carolina?

no but if it will make you paranoid I'm happy to pretend to be this random person who I have never heard of, you absolute fucking nutcase

Is something missing from this classification? Is it useful?

Narcissists who use the trans label as a way to attain narcissistic supply and as a shield from criticism for their gross and inappropriate actions. Don't know that they existed when Blanchard made his typology because back then transsexuals were pitied rather than admired.

 

[Pentaborane]

Narcissists who use the trans label as a way to attain narcissistic supply and as a shield from criticism for their gross and inappropriate actions. Don't know that they existed when Blanchard made his typology because back then transsexuals were pitied rather than admired.

Aren't all of them AGP's? Then it can be a subtype of AGP in the classification. Otherwise there's overlap but it's not a clear classification.

 

[TruffleSpark]

Aren't all of them AGP's? Then it can be a subtype of AGP in the classification. Otherwise there's overlap but it's not a clear classification.

let me put it this way, I don't think Dylan Mulvaney is AGP, but I don't think he's a classic HSTS either. He clearly doesn't want to "be" a woman, he's just doing it for asspats.

 

[Trombonista]

I think the whole "six months living as identified gender" prior to starting HRT is a great test to see who will actually put in the effort to pass and who just wants attention without the effort.

 

[Procrastinhater]

So Blanchard's typology of troons is a good start but it's not complete with regard to internet troons. Did anyone bother making a more complex classification? I'd do it like that;

• Transsexuals. Exhibit wish to be the opposite sex from early childhood, but isn't groomed by munchie parents, troons, and isn't a victim of sexual abuse.
• Transgenders.
  • Kids groomed into trooning out by parents or other troons (so-called 'egg hatching').
  • Teenagers with mental issues, including but not limited to autism, as well as victims of bullying or isolation.
  • AGP's.
  • HSTS that want to troon out during puberty or later (no AGP traits, no grooming, no mental issues). Does this category even exist?

So transsexuals are usually fine with people not wanting to pretend that they're the opposite sex. How about HSTS that weren't radicalized? AGP can react violently, such as making a scene, threatening or hitting someone.

Is something missing from this classification? Is it useful?

You're missing the purely performative ones, the Transvestites, like the guy who wrote the Rocky Horror Picture Show, Richard O'Brian, crossdressers that know they aren't women, don't really care if you "misgender" them, and are open about it being a fetish but don't force their shit into everyones face and demand "validation."

 

[teriyakiburns]

You're missing the purely performative ones, the Transvestites,

Eddie Izzard used to be counted amongst them, until he spent too much time around hollywood genderspecials. He thinks he's a woman, now.

Telling that he hasn't done a tour since he swallowed the troonshine.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Eddie Izzard used to be counted amongst them, until he spent too much time around hollywood genderspecials. He thinks he's a woman, now.

Telling that he hasn't done a tour since he swallowed the troonshine.

See strangely enough, despite them being completely open and unapologetic about it being a fetish, I find the Transvestites like Richard O'Brian far more tolerable than the histrionic troon, the insane Pooner, ever so unique Gender special, or even the old school transexuals.
I think its because they don't try to force everyone to call them women, don't really give a fuck what you call them, and more than anything are honest that the thing is just a weird kink for them.
I still find them fucking weird and I wouldn't leave one alone with a kid, but I've got a far more live and let live attitude for guys like O'Brian than I do for the rest.
Honesty goes a long way and as long as we're all clear whats going on and they're not trying to compel speech and creep into female restrooms I pretty much could care less.
I hate troons becauze they're gross and pushy and the try to force reality to adjust to their bullshit.