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Agreed, and if you had said that three years ago I would have called you insane. Yet, here we are. Placed in the surreal position of siding more and more with Monty.Note: of the two of them, Monty and Nick, Monty has been the one acting more sane.
I think the part where Nick said that Monty lost a previous case because he is a pedo is pretty reckless. He really should know better as somebody who was admitted to the bar and runs a (sometimes) law channel. As I understand it, if he failed to do any research, but made the claim anyways, there's your recklessness. The dude clearly knows how to source legal documents. He either didn't, or flat out lied as to why Monty's case was dismissed.That's an element of actual malice, not defamation per se. Actual malice requires knowledge of falsity or reckless disregard for truth or falsity, which requires at least subjective doubt on that issue.
Also, I can't fully recall what Monty's OP used to say, but I don't think it ever included the claim Nick made about Monty losing a case because there was a determination by the court he is a pedo. Ergo, I'm not sure the blame for all this can be laid at KF's feet.
I mention all this because it's looking like the judge is going to assume they're both public figures. I presume Monty would still have to clear the actual malice standard at some point.
I agree. See above. His thread OP might have insinuated he's a pedo from the photographing minors thing (since retracted), but Nick took his accusations much further. He might not have even used KF as the basis for calling Monty a pedo.I'm not sure if I'm prepared to blame Kiwi Farms for anything Nick said. I'm pretty sure the claims in the Montagraph OP which were corrected had to do with Monty's photography business, which if I recall correctly weren't directly referenced by Rekieta.