Science ‘Scientist’ Neil deGrasse Tyson claims biology is ‘insufficient’ during unhinged rant defending radical trans agenda - "Suppose no matter my chromosomes today, I feel 80 percent female, 20 percent male."

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Libby Emmons
Aug 1, 2023

Astrophysicist and noted science personality Neil deGrasse Tyson spoke out in favor of gender ideology and the ability of a person to actually change their sex. He made the remarks on the Stephen A Smith podcast "K[no]w Mercy."

"Apparenly the XX/XY chromosomes," he said with obvious derision, "are insufficient because when we wake up in the morning, we exaggerate whatever feature we want to portray the gender of our choice. Either the one you're assigned, the one you choose to be—whatever it is!"

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"And so now," he went on as though swapping sex was the most obvious thing in the world, "just to tie a bow on this, I say to you, somewhere I read— somewhere, I think I read— that the United States was a land where we have the pursuit of happiness. Suppose no matter my chromosomes today, I feel 80 percent female, 20 percent male. Now I'm gonna, I'm gonna put on makeup. Tomorrow, I might feel 80 percent male. I'll remove the makeup and I'll wear a muscle shirt. Why do you care? What businesses is it of yours to require that I fill your inability to think of gender on a spectrum?"

Detransitioner Chloe Cole took issue with Tyson, noting that in his assessment, he conflates appearance and cosmetics with biology, as though a person's external presentation has an effect on their biological reality.

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"How about we stop confusing basic human biology with cosmetics?" Cole said. "Like what a weird jump. I don't wear makeup most days, if I leave the house without makeup on, does that make me like 70 male?"

"If it were only truly about aesthetics," she continued, "nobody would care. It's my business. Because we're using 1950s gender stereotypes to justify an ideology that leads to the sterilization and mastectomy is of 15-year-old girls who just don't fit in— girls like me."

Cold pointed out that despite Tyson's assertions, he was not exhibiting the same stereotypes that he espoused defines males and females. "I wonder what gender he was when he recorded this," she said. "He doesn't have a muscle shirt on, right? No spray tan, no falsies. He's probably like 50 percent male," she guessed.

"Because the only thing that you've established in this video," she said, "is that men wear trousers and tank tops, but women, they wear lipstick and dresses. The idea that people can be percentages of either male or female just further reinforces the fact that biological sex is a binary. There's only two. There may only be two sexes, but there are an infinite number of personalities. I mean, it really doesn't take a degree in astrophysics to understand that."

Cole has been outspoken about her gender transition experience, which she underwent in her early teen years. Now 19, she began transition with puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones before having her breasts surgically removed by doctors at the age of 15. These "cures" did not solve her problems, and she has found herself entirely dismayed at the speed with which her body was dismembered in service to a lie.

She recently testified before Congress to express her concern at the rise in this so-called treatment for minors.

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I think the "clear it's own orbit" thing is about the body must be massive enough to be the primary gravitational influence in the area and orbiting a barycenter with your nearest partner would contradict that.

I know the barycenter of the Earth and the Moon isn't literally the center of the Earth but I'm reasonably certain that the point is still within the Earth's boundary.
It is, it's about 1000 miles under earth's surface. It does mean the earth has an almost 6000 mile wobble in its orbit as the moon moves it around, which is pretty cool.
 
I don't remember how this guy even came to be so popular. Someone told me it's because he's black, but he was popular before the diversity hire insanity took off. Whatever the initial reason, he certainly doesn't deserve the popularity and reputation he has now and I wish he would just fuck off.

As some have touched in the thread, he did the Cosmos reboot during Netflix's peak. Reddit and the The Science™️ brigade started praising him as the second coming of Carl Sagan, and residual fame has been carrying him on since then.

Sagan stuck to teaching what he knew: critical thinking, the general scientific process and astrophysics/cosmology, which were his areas of expertise, keeping him anchored to reality. Tyson, on the other hand, keeps acting as if he's an expert on anything that can be labeled as science (including the minefields of subjectivity that are the human sciences). On top of that, he usually sticks his feet into his mouth when doing so, because former The Atheist Experience binge-watchers have crowned him King of Popsci, and he can't let his kingmakers down lest he loses the comfortable and lucrative life he built on top of Sagan's legacy. So, he can't pass the opportunity of butting in and opining like an expert on the minutiae of organic chemistry, programming language syntaxes, fletching technology of 13th century Mongolia, and the commercial viability of Elon's Boring Company producing genetically engineered big tiddy goth tomboy catgirlfriends.
 
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NDGT always struck me as an autistic nerd that instantly believed his own hype. so when the Top Redditors started hailing him as Soy Science Laureate, he began to lose his ability to shut the fuck up. to some degree he's a political operator and showman, to be sure, but I always get this sperglord vibe from him, like he doesn't quite understand his own cringe, and the fact that everyone is sucking his (statistically smaller than the national average) black cock isn't helping him learn to filter himself any time soon. IMO the most revealing thing he's ever done was that stupid 200 tweet "takedown" of Interstellar where he attempted to nitpick everything that was allegedly scientifically inaccurate in the movie, with zero self-awareness
 
Oh gee, who would've thought the black science man who spends time doing calculations for fictional movies would buy into current year nonsense. Sure are putting that degree and experience to good work Neil.
 
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I'm not sure if Tyson is better or worse than Nye due to being an actual scientist.
I thought it was a "clear the orbit" thing: Pluto is in the Kuiper Belt, which is why Ceres isn't considered a planet either.
Indeed it is. The catch is though, that criterion was chosen primarily for the purpose of excluding Pluto from the list of planets, and it isn't even properly defined by the IAU.
 
I'm not sure if Tyson is better or worse than Nye due to being an actual scientist.
I'm too lazy to check, but doesn't Tyson have very few actual scientific works to his name?

I seem to recall this was one of those things that redditfags would get upset over and justify as someone not actually needing to "do the science" as long as they had the doctorate or something.
 
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#MakePlutoAPlanetAgain

I mean, why would you care Neil? It's just orbiting around the sun millions of miles away, minding its own business. Why aren't you able to conceive of planets on a spectrum?

I never found the smug asshole to be very likable, but this trend chasing is anathema to the nature of science itself, and runs contradictory to the platform he built himself on. I hope he understands that he's basically thrown away his credibility in service to a religion in everything but by name.
 
I mean, why would you care Neil? It's just orbiting around the sun millions of miles away, minding its own business. Why aren't you able to conceive of planets on a spectrum?
For that matter, why do we even need physics or measurements to begin with? If Mars' gravity identifies as 0.01G today, there's no reason why a rover should need a parachute or thrusters for the landing. It would be transphobic if Mars wasn't validated in its gravity identity.

This shit is like a surreal hybrid of the worst of solipsism and religious faith combined.
 
Galileo wasn't even persecuted by the church, they were paying for all of his research and experiments, pretty much. Galileo sperged out in a book for reasons no one has ever been able to explain reasonably by writing a book with a totally fictional Pope who totally wasn't his benefactor and friend making him out to be retarded. He was given a lot of chances to stop until they finally had to do something in a place where most people did believe the Pope was the voice of God on earth. Even then his punishment was incredibly tame for the time. The church was as much a part of the Renaissance as the rest of the educated classes and did want a better understanding of the universe and how it works.

It's like Galileo discovered a fedora orbiting with Jupiter's moons at a time when fedora were really out of fashion. The behavior of Black Science Guy and Galileo really do line up in a lot of ways, the environment they're doing it in is just way different.
There was some politics involved as well. Galileo had actually been friends with the pope (prior to his ascension) and things probably could've been smoothed over. But Urban VIII had been backed by the Medicis, and their opponents the Borgias saw the opportunity to stir some shit by raising a ruckus about Galileo's 'blasphemy'.
 
Reminder that the only reason anyone knows who black science man is, is because he is considered intelligent by black people standards. The man is every bit as retarded as any other black "intellectual" that makes their bones by ranting about space pyramids or buck breaking.
It is not as if white intellectuals are much better.

Motherfucker couldn't even make the concise explanation of why Pluto isn't a planet. Simple version is that Pluto and Charon are a dual body system that orbit a mutual center of gravity, which disqualifies Pluto from planethood.
All gravitationally-bound systems orbit around a mutual center of gravity. The Earth and its only Moon, Saturn and its about 150 Moons, The Sun with every bit of debris in the solar system, The black hole in the Galaxy Center and the billions of stars, etc, etc.
 
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All gravitationally-bound systems orbit around a mutual center of gravity. The Earth and its only Moon, Saturn and its about 150 Moons, The Sun with every bit of debris in the solar system, The black hole in the Galaxy Center and the billions of stars, etc, etc.
Yes. The odd thing with Pluto and Charon is that this point of orbit, the barycenter, exists outside of either body; the closest any "official" planet comes to a similar "binary planet" system is the Earth, where the Earth-Moon barycenter is located in the mantle.

Though, as discussed earlier, this isn't actually what disqualifies Pluto. There were actually alternate proposals for the definition of "planet" that would've included Charon in the list due to this trait, which would be much more interesting.
 
Yes. The odd thing with Pluto and Charon is that this point of orbit, the barycenter, exists outside of either body; the closest any "official" planet comes to a similar "binary planet" system is the Earth, where the Earth-Moon barycenter is located in the mantle.
Pluto is the most interesting case. It has gravitation drag effects on Neptune, which to me is a big qualifier of a 'planet'. I 'd think that would be more of a factor than barycenter, since Mercury and Venus have no moons so that's a bit contrived.
 
One thing people forget, or don't know about is the number of planets we would have to remember if Pluto was a planet, including one that has that clicking noise in the speech because if Pluto is a planet, they would all need to be as well. Who has time to remember 14 planets? Pluto is only special because we found it first with calculations and Neptune and Uranus had been found that way. So when we found something, we just assumed it was a big planet. But now with technology they've found more things in space and now Pluto isn't a planet anymore.

 
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