We've already established that the writers just rip off whatever was popular at the time of writing and do it worse, and a movie about a giant crybaby who built a giant bomb just came out, so this is a distinct possibility.
Need to also add something about dolls to get the full effect.
She actually said “Ozpin designed those schools and has followers inside every academy to Remnant that are loyal to him and no one else” which while true, weird how they never did much with it.
From Yang, right? I think that was more about the secrets and that he isn’t using his powers for anything worthwhile. Reminder, Volume 8 shows that Ozpin could have easily prevented the fall of beacon but chose not to. Wouldn’t have taken much power from his cane, and would have put him in much better position than now. So, actually, Vol 5 Yang was completely right.
Yeah, why is that? I mean, Pyrrha’s resume is good, but if you must use it on a student (for whatever reason), why not Ruby, you know the girl with the Silver Eyes, which would be far more useful to fight Grimm (and Salem) than Pyrrha. Pyrrha in general is a weird choice over Glynda with arguably more superior semblance and far more experience. I could understand Ruby being the pick, but Pyrrha?
I mean, isn’t that sorta the argument Raven was implying? And she wasn’t exactly wrong in the latter part.
Thanks for the correction, but from the inference, you’d think the guy would have some sort of cult of personality or his own personal army.
Yes it was.
Well, CRWBY never really established any rules about Maiden eligibility or anything.
I mean, Qrow was like a loyal dog, wasn’t he? And besides, wouldn’t Huntsmen be his army? He literally created them as per WoR, and that’s likely to fight his war with Salem. Since then other Huntsmen academies were more or less loyal to him (through Headmasters and the people in his group), so while dramatic, Raven isn’t wrong here.
Isn’t there like two rules and one Salem-made cheat code?
Okay, but you gotta admit, they’re pretty flexible.
The Maidan power can't be passed on to women of a certain age (another factoid not stated in the show) and Pyrrha is supposed to be one of the best huntsman in the making at the time of the show; the show never meaningfully shows this, but that's supposed to be the point behind her character with the mantle of 'The Invincible Girl', it's why she's a fighting celebrity who gets her own cereal box and her whole shit about destiny.
The only good reason I can think of myself is that Ozpin's cabal wasn't sure what would happen after they used Atlas's machine to transfer Amber's soul and they considered Pyrrha more expendable than Glynda, should something go wrong. Glynda was the backup plan should things go south.
That is never established within the show itself. And even if we took that idea face value, Ozpin surely knows plenty of older, trained huntsmen he could have used besides Pyrrha. Winter was the candidate for a maiden, so clearly at least some young adults qualify.
Not really, RWBY Chibi is a comedy show, that knows it's a comedy show & acts as such. I'm talking about the main series that essentially deludes itself into thinking that it's some serious fantasy show & is advertised as such, despite having a writing quality that is so retarded that you'd mistake it for a parody or a gag series.
They weren’t flexible but then they wanted to make Penny a thing again and they started getting pretty loose with definitions, and became flexible, yeah. Technically speaking anyone with a female body can qualify for a Maiden.
Where are you getting this? Besides, I can’t see Glynda being much older than Winter or Raven, both of which qualified easily.
Yeah, but you can give the powers to a genetically superior woman and just train her to be better. If Ozpin wants good allies, Ruby would have been better long term choice (both because genetics, and because Pyrrha literally died immediately after)
Yang only learned it at the last episode of Vol 5 and afterwards Raven never came up. Their focus was on the Winter Maiden. There is also implication that they share info outside of screentime (In vol 5 when they all met Lionheart, Jaune recognised the name and last name of Yang’s mother despite Yang never mentioning it to him on screen. The implication is that it came up and either Yang or Ruby told him).
Okay, actually, that seems like a pretty good explanation, thanks!
Yes, and when Qrow asked her what happened, she didn’t tell them anything other than she was gone.
Back then the fact that Raven was gone and Yang had the relic was the important part. Yang directly answered the question as Qrow asked. I expect that if Qrow later wanted to know more she’d tell him offscreen (just like she told Jaune about her mother offscreen)
Their focus was the relics, not maidens. Even if Maiden’s were the focus of Ozpin’s group, they couldn’t have done much to claim Raven and it would have put them at risk of Raven changing her mind with the relic
And this is supposed to make the Ozluminati look like the good guys that can be trusted?
One side actively tries to have as many of its allies killed as possible, and the other is Salem. Reminder, Ozpin could have easily chosen to prevent the Fall of Beacon and all the dead innocents and chose not to and placed himself in factually worse position for it.
Are either of them worth watching? Also, the image on the first video is very on point
Volume 5 commentary, around the bit where Vernal is first pretending to be the Maiden I think. And no, they don't explain how Raven can get the powers despite this. I remember it being a big discussion around volume 5.
I love how pretty much all the ‘canon’ coming from the commentaries is wrong as to what is shown in the show (despite rules playing a big part of Vol 8, the writers decanonized them in the commentaries)
Their need to put bunch of nonsensical rules (that they ignore) to try to justify past Volume’s actions that can be justified by ways that makes sense, never stops to amaze me
I’d say so. Although there’s a chance some points may be outdated.
