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Japan has the advantage of being on a island and hating the idea of immigration. Things just work there. In a way it reminds me of Utah; a shared common culture, terrain that limits how many people that can move in, etc. It's easier to keep the peace when everyone agrees niggery equals a jail cell.
It's also crazy expensive for people earning Japanese salaries. The nice areas with hundreds of businesses near the large train stations that tourists love have rent prices greater than American cities (especially if you want equivalent space) but the median income of Tokyo is only $35k. A lot of the more affordable areas only have convenience stores, a few restaurants, and a handful of random businesses within walking distance; definitely not enough to do everything within a 15 minute walk.
 
It's also crazy expensive for people earning Japanese salaries. The nice areas with hundreds of businesses near the large train stations that tourists love have rent prices greater than American cities (especially if you want equivalent space) but the median income of Tokyo is only $35k. A lot of the more affordable areas only have convenience stores, a few restaurants, and a handful of random businesses within walking distance; definitely not enough to do everything within a 15 minute walk.
Thats the part the urbanists dont see. They also dont see that, yes, many Japanese have cars, even if its less than the US. Dont believe me? Tell that to their media that glorifies cars, movies, video game series, and Toyota ALONE. Plenty of domestic sales when you look at the numbers.
 
Every demographic group except for 18-29 year olds, people with postgraduate degrees, and Asians prefers suburbs or rural areas.
Sad to hear about my demographic lol, though some of that might be economic factors. Personally I want a mid sized home with a good lot of land I can build a welding workshop on. Nothing crazy, but enough to keep a old F-1/250 and my car in the garage, a couple rooms, a nice sized living room to fit a big TV, and a basement for the man cave/ storage ( I will own everything and be happy lol).

Having the suburbs separated from the city is nice in that, if a riot breaks out, it takes a while to get to where I'm at if it ever does, and just general asthetics. I don't want to live in a bug hive, I want to see trees and grass and walking paths without a skyscraper in the middle of it. Not everything has to be hyper efficient.
 
I just dropped $1000 buying lockable metal side cases for my motorcycle after some (presumably melinated) individual cut my saddlebags and stole my USB cable and windproof jacket, then put up the kickstand and dropped the bike onto the ground for good measure. All while I went into a grocery store for 10 minutes in the urban hellhole in which I live. If that was an ebike it just would have been stolen outright.

Point being, crime is literally the thing that makes alternative forms of transportation untenable in urban areas. The "bUT jUsT geT inSuRaNCE!!!" crowd misses the point completely too. Insurance costs a lot more money when crimes happen often (my bike insurance is 1.5x higher than all surrounding areas due to high claim rates inner-city). And when your shit does get stolen you're usually just fucked. Every bike I have ever had stolen is never recovered, and when my car was stolen last month (and thankfully recovered), the DA just let the person who stole it go even tho they had a history of stealing cars. Now I'm left with a car with $5000 in damages and have to spend a lot of time and energy organizing repairs. I'm probably getting close to $8k in costs associated with theft and vandalism of my vehicles in the last year alone. And that isn't even in a bad part of town, just all of our urban centres in the US have become crime ridden hellholes because nobody does anything about it. If I could afford to, I'd move out to the suburbs in a heartbeat.

I'm all for the idea of a healthy, walkable urban core and more sustainable transport in general. I own several commuter bicycles, a motorcycle, and a scooter and promote all of those to people all the time as a fun and efficient way to commute to work. The issue is, none of those are attractive when you are worried about becoming a victim of a crime. You don't want to commute to work on a bike because you can't stop for groceries on the way home or risk all your office gear getting stolen from your panniers. Or worse someone is gonna yank your entire bike while you're doing your daily drudgery. So instead you now need to carry two locks with you everywhere you go and have some permanently attached luggage that locks, and also pay for theft insurance since even that's gonna get stolen on a long enough timeline and suddenly you realize that all of this isn't worth it and you should just buy a car and spare yourself the anxiety and inconvenience.

If I'm gonna take the urbanists seriously they're gonna need to get tough on inner-city crime. Until they stop victim blaming their own supporters and gaslighting everyone else into thinking it "neVEr hApPenS", their movement is dead in the water.
 
Pew released updated survey data today about American's preferences for different lifestyles:
Some comments from HN urbanists (archive) on the survey:
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There were a lot of standard urbanist talking points that aren't worth screenshotting (you can see them in the archive above if you're interested).

Surprisingly, there were actually a few decent comments:
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Comments from /r/urbanplanning (archive):
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No, they can't like big houses!
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If I'm gonna take the urbanists seriously they're gonna need to get tough on inner-city crime. Until they stop victim blaming their own supporters and gaslighting everyone else into thinking it "neVEr hApPenS", their movement is dead in the water
Their current tactic is to compare criminal assaults / murders with car injuries / deaths.

Right off the bat, I will say that driving a car has more of a chance for injury and death than getting murdered. But the question is why?

One of the main factors is DUI, which causes about 10,000 deaths per year. Of these deaths about 40% are drunk drivers killing themselves.

This is not to dismiss drunk drivers killing themselves but to contextualize the danger. If one does not drink and drive, then a significant percentage of this danger does not apply.

Another factor is living environment. Needless to say that many of places practically serviceable by public transit are urban with private car use higher for suburbs and rural areas. A measure that only looks at transit deaths / homicides / assaults fail to account for the so called "last mile". Such, if one was assaulted before reaching the train station or bus stop that is not counted as a negative. If one is assaulted after the last transit stop to their front door, that is not considered a negative against public transit
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P.S. Their counter to last mile crime will be to propose more transit stops and more frequent transit vehicles. This might work, until the number of mass transit vehicles cause their own congestion. In addition, more frequent stops means slower transportation. Even if I were to entertain the near door to door mass transit model, that would reduce the opportunity for the so called "gym of life" but not decrease transit time.
 
A measure that only looks at transit deaths / homicides / assaults fail to account for the so called "last mile". Such, if one was assaulted before reaching the train station or bus stop that is not counted as a negative. If one is assaulted after the last transit stop to their front door, that is not considered a negative against public transit
Crimes like assault are significantly undercounted in general, whereas car accidents are more obvious and less susceptible to undercounting. Especially if an accident damages infrastructure that needs to be repaired, or causes a death, either of which results in a lot of paperwork.
 
You're not supposed to say "look at the note I left", jackass.

This is the one upside to the group, if they actually went the full way and started committing criminal vandalism, they'd gleefully run back and post evidence of the crimes they just committed.
Dude, right before covid I was on a grand jury deciding if all, some, or no charges for a given case would go to trial. You would not believe how many retarded gangbangers run to facebook to snitch on themselves
 
Crimes like assault are significantly undercounted in general, whereas car accidents are more obvious and less susceptible to undercounting. Especially if an accident damages infrastructure that needs to be repaired, or causes a death, either of which results in a lot of paperwork.
Assault or attempted assault may never be reported at all. If a thug walks up on you in a dark alley, gun in hand, and you pull one on him, he's gonna run 9/10 times. He's not gonna consider what gun it is or even if he considered to buy body armor; he doesn't want to get shot. So both of you leave, and probably don't say a word.

When a car wrecks, police and ambulances and tow trucks are called. There is NO quiet resolution, and if you caused it, you're showing up to court.
This sounds a lot like "just one more lane bro."
Actually what they think. So delusional in their quest for utopia that they miss that they're just as bad as those they meme on, but actually so.
 
The study is alright in isolation and applies to America. If fails to address some of the underlying reasons behind such a preference, where larger houses in sectioned neighbourhoods are generally correlated with wealth, a symbol of success and being generally safer.

However, the same generally applies to Europe as well.

Home ownership​

Property markets in the EU display considerable differences in relation to tenure status, in other words, the proportion of people who rent or own their home. Many people have aspirations to own their property, but the patterns of home ownership in the EU are quite varied. Generally there has been an increase in home ownership, with a preference to move into single-family dwellings that have more internal and external space. This has tended to result in the expansion of low-density housing in suburban areas around some of Europe’s largest cities.

Here is one for the Japanese city Kawasaki. The study evaluates reasons for relocation to high-density apartments with an emphasis on age and familial status.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13467581.2022.2052299
Super-high-rise condominiums have become popular in Japan as they are convenient and offer various floor plans, large-scale open spaces, and common facilities. However, few studies have examined the characteristics of super-high-rise condominium residents and their residential intentions.
The numbers with respect to age.
Based on their life stages, the results indicated the following: 1) Approximately 70% of the young households moved from apartments (leased); 2) the ratios of middle-aged households relocated from condominiums (owned), apartments (leased), and detached houses (owned) were approximately 33%, 27%, and 20%, respectively; 3) Approximately 50% of the early elderly households and approximately 66% of the late elderly households moved from detached houses (owned).
Why would they like to live in high density apartments?
Regarding the important factors influencing the choice of their current houses (multiple answers), almost all residents emphasised on traffic convenience. Moreover, they emphasised on good commercial and public facilities, a good urban environment based on redevelopment projects, interest in super-high-rise condominiums, availability of medical and welfare facilities, and effectiveness of the townscape. Examining the data based on the life stages of the residents, the following important parameters affected their residential choices: 1) Young single households: “interest in super-high-rise condominiums (22%)”; “effectiveness of the townscape (18%)”; 2) young couples and young parent-child households: “ease to work as a dual-income family (26%, 27%)” – however, the latter did not emphasise on “interest in super-high-rise condominiums (10%)”; 3) middle-aged single and couple households: “interest in super-high-rise condominiums (28%, 32%)”, “daily living facilities such as commercial facilities (51%, 42%)”, and ‘medical and welfare facilities (19%, 21%); and 4) elderly households emphasised on “interest in super-high-rise condominiums”, and daily living facilities, particularly medical and welfare facilities.
Essentially, convenience, access to healthcare, transport and a good environment are considerations.

How about renting a house versus an apartment? Which group is happier with their dwelling?
Australia:
Of those residing in apartments, 78 per cent were content with their living arrangements, compared with 88 per cent of those in houses. The disparity was most significant in Melbourne, compared with Sydney and Brisbane, where just 75 per cent of people in apartments were happy to be there compared to the satisfaction of 91 per cent of house dwellers.
USA:
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So it's a funny divide here but kind of in an equilibrium state [1].

While the Australian article passed off two exceptionally high percentages as a disparity (go study, journo[2]), it's fair to conclude that cost is impeding most of us from moving to a desirable place. It's also fair to conclude that generally, if satisfied at all, we like our dwelling regardless of house or apartment.

It's almost like... people are different and will choose living arrangements that suits them the most...?
Oh wait, it's hidden here:
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So urbanites like high density, people in the suburbs are inclined to single family houses and the rural folks distinctively prefer single family houses. Whoops...

I guess this level of basic reading is too much for urbanspergs.

[1] and [2]: All of these studies fail to account for reasons of dissatisfaction or fail to distinguish between them. Having an annoying neighbour doesn't mean the apartment or house is bad as those with good neighbours would disagree. In the same breath, the pew study does not seem to explain why people prefer large zoned single family houses. Obviously no study is perfect, that's why it's fun.
 
/r/fuckcars discusses biking in hot weather:
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Go slow and drink constantly:
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One member admits that if they had a car, they would drive to escape the heat:
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A European who is too lazy to do a temperature conversion copy-pastes the standard e-bike promotion:
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A Dutchman tried cycling in a heatwave and admits that it sucks:
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/r/fuckcars discusses biking in hot weather:
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Go slow and drink constantly:
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One member admits that if they had a car, they would drive to escape the heat:
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A European who is too lazy to do a temperature conversion copy-pastes the standard e-bike promotion:
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A Dutchman tried cycling in a heatwave and admits that it sucks:
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Absolutely kek. Summer's a bitch, ain't it? Bet driving a car to the grocery store sounds nice, as some of you are realizing as the others try dragging you back into the crab bucket.
 
/r/fuckcars discusses biking in hot weather:
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One member admits that if they had a car, they would drive to escape the heat:
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A European who is too lazy to do a temperature conversion copy-pastes the standard e-bike promotion:
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A Dutchman tried cycling in a heatwave and admits that it sucks:
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I don't know the weather in texas or whatever the fuck the hot part of the US is and im too lazy to look it up right now.

But anyway ive established that biking in singapore is the equivalent of biking in a dutch heatwave in a previous post of mine. (MANY other cases, see also: pretty much everywhere else in southeast asia, large swathes of india, the middle east, persumably much of central/south america etc etc etc. Collectively I believe these places represent about 30% of the human population.)

This leads to the conclusion: any complaint about carbrainedness in any of those regions should be answered with "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOME_FUCKING_PLACE#Climate" and "Considering that, what would YOU propose they do?"
 
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I don't know the weather in texas or whatever the fuck the hot part of the US is and im too lazy to look it up right now.

But anyway ive established that biking in singapore is the equivalent of biking in a dutch heatwave in a previous post of mine. (MANY other cases, see also: pretty much everywhere else in southeast asia, large swathes of india, the middle east, persumably much of central/south america etc etc etc)

So yeah. Any complaint about carbrainedness in any of those regions should be answered with "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOME_FUCKING_PLACE#Climate" and "Considering that, what would YOU propose they do?"
Houston and Singapore have fairly similar climates during the summer:
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Singapore is more humid but Houston has more extreme temperatures.

Other Texan cities' climate data:
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Compare them to Amsterdam:
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