Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Charlemagne, Semiogogue and a couple of other guys analyzing NATO shilling. Not terribly familiar with any of them so I'm not exactly cosigning anything here.

I don't know why PutZZler bothers with that totally real troll network that caused gamurrgoat and installed Cheeto Hitler to US presidency, as The Experts have told us. All he needs to do is broadcast this faggot's videos for everyone to see.
 
This war is entirely theater. We are on day 528. Russia could realistically eliminate all command and control targets within Ukraine with it's current capabilities and put an end to this charade. But they chose not to because it is in their best interests to prolong this war as much as possible. The recent attack on the oil tanker is more or less conclusive evidence of what this has been all along, a way of Putin's oligarchs to drive the price of oil up and ensure a new paradigm in the global oil market with Russia as the leader. Why would any nation tolerate actual terrorism to vital trade without decisive retaliation? There is only so much you can do to achieve this goal politically especially with the weakening relevancy of OPEC. This war is a vehicle for that. It's a win win situation for all of these fucking scum involved. Ukraine gets to continue it's status as a whore and offshore bank for other nations, Zelensky gets his billions to spend on coke, Putin and his oligarchs get to establish the Petroruble and back at home the MIC gets to make profits like it's never seen before.

The only person losing in this war is you. There is no such thing as a multipolar world. There is no Russia, there is no China, there is no America. Globalism has dissolved all borders and meaning of the concept of a nation. There is only one world order ruled by mammon. You are delusional if you believe that Russia or Ukraine is fighting for the interests of it's people. No country has in the past 8 decades.
 
A man in a wig and a spokesman of Ukraine that does not know Ukrainian filming videos on Twitter about how Russians are not humans.
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A fucking clown world I tell you that much.
And your will never be a woman.
Charlemagne, Semiogogue and a couple of other guys analyzing NATO shilling. Not terribly familiar with any of them so I'm not exactly cosigning anything here.
Charlemagne is one of the better rightwing youtube political philosophers though haven't seen anything of him recently so will check out this livestream.
 
I finished reading the well acclaimed work of Amerimutt art known as "300" by Frank Miller and decided to read up on that battle.

And saw this comparison made.


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I'm not even surprised at this point.

This war is entirely theater. We are on day 528. Russia could realistically eliminate all command and control targets within Ukraine with it's current capabilities and put an end to this charade. But they chose not to because it is in their best interests to prolong this war as much as possible. The recent attack on the oil tanker is more or less conclusive evidence of what this has been all along, a way of Putin's oligarchs to drive the price of oil up and ensure a new paradigm in the global oil market with Russia as the leader. Why would any nation tolerate actual terrorism to vital trade without decisive retaliation? There is only so much you can do to achieve this goal politically especially with the weakening relevancy of OPEC. This war is a vehicle for that. It's a win win situation for all of these fucking scum involved. Ukraine gets to continue it's status as a whore and offshore bank for other nations, Zelensky gets his billions to spend on coke, Putin and his oligarchs get to establish the Petroruble and back at home the MIC gets to make profits like it's never seen before.

The only person losing in this war is you. There is no such thing as a multipolar world. There is no Russia, there is no China, there is no America. Globalism has dissolved all borders and meaning of the concept of a nation. There is only one world order ruled by mammon. You are delusional if you believe that Russia or Ukraine is fighting for the interests of it's people. No country has in the past 8 decades.
tl:dr you're globohomo girldicksucker, got it.

But I'll do the deep dive nonetheless.

This war is entirely theater.
I don't recall any form of theater to have losses from both sides slowly approaching a solid million of lethal and non-lethal casualties combined (might've as well passed this number already, who knows really)

We are on day 528.
Yes and? It's not a hollywood\bollywood action cinema gargabage,nigger, it's a real world, the complexity of an actual military conflict is barely known to many of you and that's infuriating, honestly.

Russia could realistically eliminate all command and control targets within Ukraine with it's current capabilities and put an end to this charade.
Sure can, and yes some of us do wonder why they are meddling with the decision to do the needful.

But they chose not to because it is in their best interests to prolong this war as much as possible.
Well considering the consequences everyone feels these days it was... logical?

The recent attack on the oil tanker is more or less conclusive evidence of what this has been all along, a way of Putin's oligarchs to drive the price of oil up and ensure a new paradigm in the global oil market with Russia as the leader.
There's way more than just oil market tho.

Why would any nation tolerate actual terrorism to vital trade without decisive retaliation?
Because doing hot-headed decisions there isn't an option, not to mention that every move we do is being twisted by western journoscum and globohomo shills. Case in point: visit the opposite side's thread here in Happenings,

This war is a vehicle for that. It's a win win situation for all of these fucking scum involved. Ukraine gets to continue it's status as a whore and offshore bank for other nations, Zelensky gets his billions to spend on coke, Putin and his oligarchs get to establish the Petroruble and back at home the MIC gets to make profits like it's never seen before.
It's obvious that the act men from both sides will get a slice of a pie that is baking up. Nothing new.


The only person losing in this war is you.
How come?
here is no such thing as a multipolar world.
Again, how come?

There is no Russia, there is no China, there is no America. Globalism has dissolved all borders and meaning of the concept of a nation.
Oi cut down with this kykery, glowie.

Globalism has dissolved all borders and meaning of the concept of a nation. There is only one world order ruled by mammon.
I said cut down with this kykery, glowing nigger.

You are delusional if you believe that Russia or Ukraine is fighting for the interests of it's people.
Nobody ever stated that aside from negative IQ reddit fags and nafofaggots.
 
Mariupol was straight up embarassing. How the hell do you lose a fairly large city in 83 days? Artemovsk's defenders did way better, even if they were facing an undersupplied mercenary unit full of prisoners.
I think it conclusively proved that Azov was all bark, no bite, when it came to fighting.

That said, to be fair, Mariupol was surrounded on all sides by Russians, unlike Bakhmut whom the Ukrainians continue to maintain a narrow corridor through the western side of the city right up till it fell (which later they had to mount a rescue operation to rescue stragglers who got trapped.)
 
Slavland shrubbery.
certain woodlike plant vines will absolutely fuck your shit like Yaupon hollies in the US.
Yeah, I can confirm this. People who always smile turn me off severely, they feel false and untrustworthy or even unpleasant. I’m not sure that’s only Russians and yanks though, I’ve seen the same attitude from Germans towards Swedes for example.
You're supposed to smile in south even if you're calling them a nigger because that is just how politeness works in the Southern US. Doubly so for women.
I'm pretty sure that four-barreled rocket launcher from 'Commando' was the US version of that Russian launcher. Everyone seems to have replaced flamethrowers with rocket-launched incendiary grenades after Vietnam.
That's the M202 FLASH (Flame Assault Shoulder) that fires 4x66mm rockets with incendiary rounds. There's about a 5% chance every shot it rolls a 1d20, critically fails, blows up, incinerates you and turns the rest of your squad into invalids was a big reason it got retired. The Russian RPO has a thermobaric warhead the US did not.

See the AGI 3x40, which is a hilarious Romanian version of this. Take 3 incindary RPG-7 warheads, slap them on a triangular frame with an electronic trigger and add a scope on the side.
Here's a video of the M202 in Cambodia during Vietnam:
They.... Didn't do much with that advantage
That is a failing of the VVS doctrine and equipment issues I think. The Soviet VVS had these priorities:
  • Airborne leg of the nuclear triad
  • Air superiority and defense of the far east of the horde of US bombers with minimal runways and a vast expanse of land (Think Mig-25 and Mig-31) that was the URSS,
  • Preventing ground troops from getting fucked by CAS.
So SEAD and ground-pounding wasn't that much of a priority. Same for the AVS (Naval aviation), which top priorities were:
  • ASW warfare
  • Protection of the SSBNs until launch of missiles
  • Air superiority
  • Blowing the fuck out of any CTF with nuclear tipped Kh-22s.
 
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So we're a year and a half into the war. How is it going? Still a stalemate? What's the outlook?

Also, what happened to the air force? Wasn't there footage of jets flying low over the cities at the start? Then we heard about some helicopters being shot down and that was the last of it.
 
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You're supposed to smile in south even if you're calling them a nigger because that is just how politeness works in the Southern US. Doubly so for women.
That’s a threat response, it speaks ill of your society to call that politeness.
Not that we don’t have aspects of it here. I should have clarified that I was mostly referring to men.
 
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That's 19? I know people joke about slavic women aging, but wtf.
Slavic here it really depends on the genes . I have had shoolmates who nobody would ask them for id when bying beer by the time they hit 16 because they looked middle aged meanwhile i get carded well into my 30s . Usually recomendation is to see the mom . If the mom looks ok as in not aged, especially if she smokes and work manual jobs you have gotten the jackpot if she lookes decade older well shit bro get another one . My mom is 60 now she gets visible grays on the sidebuns and looks a decade or two younger too. So there is that ,
 
Putin's Forever War (NY Times)

I don't have the energy to properly post this on-site, but I think this article from the regime mouthpiece is worth checking out, not so much for what it says about Russia, but for what it says about the mindset of the US elite. Draw your own conclusions, etc.

If you have access to the original, there's this weird photo-roll thing they do that isn't in the archive.

I suppose I should thank author for establishing his bona fides as a pompous, self-righteous bloviating jackass from almost the first sentence, rather having it be something he builds up to:

As I traveled from Siberia to Belgorod on Russia’s western border with Ukraine, across the vertigo-inducing vastness that informs Russian assertiveness, I found a country uncertain of its direction or meaning, torn between the glorious myths that Mr. Putin has cultivated and everyday struggle.

LMAO, what?
I was advised to accept no document, unless it was a menu, and even then, to use a QR code to order food whenever possible.

etc.
 
So we're a year and a half into the war. How is it going? Still a stalemate? What's the outlook?

Also, what happened to the air force? Wasn't there footage of jets flying low over the cities at the start? Then we heard about some helicopters being shot down and that was the last of it.
Attrition war in a dynamic that greatly benefits russia.

Ukrainian air force is by now a token force. They migh have up to five jets left, maybe ten helis. Most if not all major airstrips are unusable, and they were proven to take off from highways. Every now and then they attempt a flight but are quickly forced to withdraw. A few months back a story surfaced how russians were able to ambush ukrainians with a tactic that Red Baron would use, meaning they either have non-existant air control or all ground radar stations were destroyed (likely). Air defence is also pretty dire, with russian drones and missiles flying pretty much unimpeded.

Russians are either running CAS through Su-25 and Su-34, AWACS above Belarus and Belgorod region, or have a group of Mig-31 and Su-35 flying high altitude air superiority above their own lines, waiting for targers of opportunity (which are rare nowadays). On a few occasions the very basic baits worked, shooting down few further ukrainian jets. A few days back an ukrainian Mi-24 was shot down.

Both sides use a fuckton of drones - small ones. Bayraktars were big for a week, and after that they lost all of them. I remember an article complaining that turkey cannot replace the 100 bayraktars shot down over ukraine, and another one claiming that up to ten thousand drones of all kinds were lost by ukrainians each month.

Air force is working, its just that its operations are limited to frontlines and securing the air space. Missiles and Shaheds do heavy lifting in attacking targets within ukraine - tonight there was a big wave of attacks. Expect a few more NATO officers "lost in tragic incidents" in coming days.

Oh, and Tu-22 and Tu-95 are used to lob Kalibrs, while Mig-31s launch Kinzhals.
 
🚨 BREAKING 🚨 Satellite images show that necromancer Zelenskyyy is building new Cursed Temples, preparing a massive skeleton army that can turn the tides of war!

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Zelenskyyy's skeleton army will be supported from air by eight F-16s. Vatniggers in full cope mode, the power of necromancy combined with 8 airplanes from the 1970s will destroy ruzzia for good!

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