Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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phallo is having a massive argument over gendered language.
Ridiculous Pooners :story:
That Testosterone does not react well with Female endocrine systems, you get a witches brew of all the aggression that comes with a Testosterone level higher than your body is used to (anyone who used to juice will know what that feels like - ie "roid rage") combined with the emotional volatility some Females experience when their estrogen levels are in flux.
So you have these hyper sensitive delusional Pooners that think they are men flying off the handle and raging :story: its priceless and one of the things that makes Pooners so entertaining to watch.
 
How the fuck do you get to the point where you think about being able to be liquid and turn into a pyramid or cube and that gets you hard
Our boy of the am hole, Kevin Gibes, is attracted to being a pool toy and somehow taffy pulling?

Granted he can’t get hard anymore. Whoopsies.
 
I note that elephant dick is being big and brave and warning people about Dr Cetrulo now he's not doing his dumb surgeries in Boston any more and she's no longer his patient, so no comeback on her from him. Gosh, what a warrior. Of course, she also has no ragrets and still wants a rotsausage, wouldn't change her journey etc etc etc.

The delusion of these pooners is beyond that which should be humanly possible.
 
How the fuck do you get to the point where you think about being able to be liquid and turn into a pyramid or cube and that gets you hard
Idk could it have to do with the body sensation they imagine when thinking about getting turned into a [insert object/thing]? Is it's a weird & perverted way to cope with stress/calm down? Perhaps such fantasies could be cured with exercise.
 
You can phrase almost any kind of question like this, ‘but if you COULD fly would you jump off the roof?’ ‘But if you woke up as a woman would you…?’
It’s a format of question that’s designed to force a yes answer. Never engage with such questions. Always point out that the format of such questions is designed to force a yes answer by setting an impossible scenario as reality and leave it at that.

But I can't fly at all, and I'm not a woman?
 
u/Xeroform22 has written an update about Dr. Cetrulo and the results of his butchery. 100% complication rate and he's escaping to California.
Fucking lol, so ElephantDick has finally realized what was blatently apparent from the very first image of that fucking Lovecraftian tentacle Cetrulo grafted to her stomach - that procedure is fucked, that Doctor is a sadist, and the patients are gullible fucking Guinea Pigs.
How many years of surgeries, infections, complications, and revisions did it take her to realize what one look at this
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abomination of nature dangling from her waist would have told anyone with eyes?
 
Tbf happens with masectomies done after breast cancer removal, too. It's a very small part that is hard to reattach blood supply to. It's why many women who get that surgery tattoo them on instead of trying to save it. I think some tattooists even do it for free? I'm not 100% on that though.
Breast cancers are nearly always ductal and the ducts terminate in the nipple, so when a mastectomy is done, all tissue is removed including the nipple. If the woman reconstructs, they can do tattooing or not, but as has been noted and highlighted very well in this thread, reconstruction is not recreation. The best one can hope for with a recon is to look normal in clothes the first few years.

Now, some woman have DCIS, which is not a cancer, but a tumor marker or calcifications. The trend for years was to get double mastectomies for that (although doctors now consider it overtreating-those calcs may never cause a cancer ) but that case, they do not need to remove nipples and can graft them back on.

The cancer BRCA genes definitely increase the risk of getting breast cancer and women often do mastectomies and ovary removal as prevention for that. There is some thought they can wait to have children as the risk rises each year, until it hits 60-80%. It’s not a static risk but women who’ve seen their mothers die of cancer rarely wait. The risk is up to the woman but in that case they can do nicer mastectomies and possible reattach the nipple. (There are super rare cancers that start in the nipple but I think unrelated to BRCA). While they need to remove breast tissue, not having a cancer in the way makes the recon better especially if the woman isn’t too thin. But some of the surgeries are flap surgeries and moving one body part to another area doesn’t always work perfectly.

That’s your unofficial breast cancer mastectomy lesson of the day.

These crazy bitches doing it to cosplay as men deserve every bit of the pain, back and shoulder problems, and constant unscratchable itching and numbness that they can get. They’ll never be the “man” who can help put a woman’s bag in an airliners overhead bin, in fact, they’ll be the manlet who has to ask the 6 foot Chad next to her to do it.
 
The phallo sub drama is absolutely hilarious on so many levels. You know these pooners are all for erasing gendered language when it's about "pregnant people" and "menstruators", but how dare you imply that someone with a (future) rotdog is anything but male! And then we have a female only space invaded by men who make the rules. Sorry ladies, you cannot escape reality no matter how many teets you yeet and arms you flail :story: I can only laugh at their little feet stomping, maybe they will figure it out some day.
 
fyi to everyone. u/xeroform22 is not elephantdick, although she had the exact same procedure and outcome.

Anyway, u/W-olfsbane, the post-op TiF who started the whole gender argument, is upset her phallus has shrunk.
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In american units that's 4 inches in length and 6.5 inches in circumference. She wanted 6 inches and 5 inches.
I had phallo a bit over 2 months ago. My surgeon and I agreed on 15 cm length. After surgery, it was at around 12 cm, which I attributed to swelling, but I have now noticed that it shrunk down to 10 cm, which is making me extremely saddened. Girth is still at 16 cm while we agreed on 13 cm, but I’m not too worried about that since it isn’t getting any thicker.

Has anyone else experienced this? I am very aware of the swelling, but wasn’t aware it would (or could) shrink down even further while healing, missing a whole 1/3 of the length, although only being 2 months post op (but it still happening after the major healing period of 8 weeks is over). Is it actually going to go to the length it was supposed to be?
All the TiFs seem to think it'll stretch out but in my experience they seem to get shorter and fatter far more likely than stretch out. Maybe if they had one for decades it would lengthen but thats not happening.

w-olfsbane seems to be a gayden that's very anti-pooner. Posts alot in r/truscum and complains about the uwu anime boy types.
Here's her 2 posts documenting her phalloplasty. Littered statements like with "I don't regret anything" despite all the difficulty.
For some info, I had MLD phallo. My stage one included phallus creation, scrotoplasty with implants, vaginectomy, total hysterectomy with ovary removal, urethral lengthening that is not yet connected, and my surgeon does something similar to metoidioplasty with the bottom growth, so you now pee through there as if you had meta as well, which is basically partial urethral lenghtening.

The first four days at the hospital were almost a living hell. I couldn’t even lift my head up because I was so nauseous and dizzy. I couldn’t eat, I couldn’t drink water. When I did, I gagged and would’ve thrown up, but there was nothing to actually throw up, so I just kept gagging. I had to get an IV anti nausea medication every time as I ate, which did not help at all. I could only properly eat and also not gag day four post op.

Before that, especially on day two, suicide legitimately seemed like a better option than everything I felt and I got very depressed. I was allowed to take HRT again only four days post-op, so I was a huge mess as my body wasn’t producing any hormones in the meantime, literally staring at a wall, wondering what the hell was I doing with my life, how I would do anything to go back to normal. Aside from my emotions, I got severe hysterectomy side effects, like sweat literally dripping from me, hot flashes, slight insomnia, and my depression and anxiety being at a peak (note that I do suffer from very bad anxiety, depression, and some other things), such as waking up from sleep with intense panic attacks while I’ve only had a few minor ones in my whole life, and my whole body vigorously shaking from anxiety while I wasn’t even anxious, and unable to stop it. Aside from that, I was just crippled, dizzy, and nauseous. Not in pain, luckily, as I was given painkillers all the time, or that would’ve made it so much worse. In the first few days, I regretted it 100000%, especially as it was my own conscious decision.

As I was out of the hospital, although recovering at the assigned apartment for three weeks… it was rough. It was better, but still super rough. Getting up was an immense task. You need to hold your phallus and catheter as you walk, so you can’t really grab things on your own, and my friend had to do everything for me, including showering. My leg was partially numb as I wasn’t allowed to move my legs (except my feet and toes) for three days at the hospital, at least with my case, where they connected the blood vessels in my thigh. I limped and it was awkward to walk after I actually started to walk a week post op when discharged. Previous to that, I only got up and walked a few circles around my room.

I had two catheters (although the foley for only 7-11 days, the suprapubic for 3 weeks) and they were uncomfortable and annoying. They gave me extreme pain at times (the second worst pain I’ve felt in my life), with which I could only somewhat lay in a fetal position and wait for the painkillers to work, or for it to pass. As I started to plug the catheter tube so I wasn’t connected to the bag at all times as to train my bladder again, I peed myself probably four times and definitely was incontinent. Back at the hospital, I also wasn’t aware I had diarrhea and thought it was just gas after the hysto… nope, so the nurses had to clean that up.

Your dignity is gonna go out at the hospital, believe me. They’ll have to potentially clean your poop, potentially your pee (but definitely empty the catheter filled with pee), you’ll potentially fart like hell and your stomach is going to move as if possessed if you’ll have a hysto (intestines rearranging themselves, as well as that you get gas filled in your stomach so they can see what they’re doing, which then needs to go out), and of course they’ll also have to clean your whole downstairs, and so on.

People seriously don’t joke when they say this is the hardest thing you’ll ever go through in your life. And that’s not even counting the overall pain, if the painkillers don’t work.

However, at 2.5 weeks post-op, approximately, things started getting a lot better. I started going around for walks, and the day before I went back home at 3 weeks post-op, I even took a bit of a tour of the city and walked for a whopping 8 kilometres without any pain (I very much don’t recommend this), feeling almost completely normal as a whole, just my testicles feeling slightly uncomfortable.

Now, a bit over a month post op, and back home for two weeks, things are good. The only inconvenience really is that I get a ton of discharge from my current urethra (and I mean a ton, having to wear sanitary pads for it), but otherwise changing the gauzes on the graft site and taking care of everything is alright, and I am almost back to my daily life. Still healing, but I’m doing good, and seeing a bulge, being able to touch/hold my penis despite not feeling it, gives me a lot of happiness and euphoria.

I now definitely don’t regret it, and can’t see myself as pre-op at all anymore, and honestly would go through the first week hell again if I had to. The euphoria I felt when I realised that my natal genitals are gone, and that despite the fact that I’m only post stage one without the urethral hooked up and without a glans, with my penis being still very swollen and that being the primary source of my dysphoria that will go away with time and healing, I feel happy about everything as a whole, albeit excluding the still intact bottom growth and current urethra and having to sit to pee through that, but that one is not a huge deal.

This isn’t meant to scare anyone, but I just thought I’d share my experience with recovery as it’s probably on the worse side of recovery possibilities.

Edited for typos.
My country’s trans organisation has a ton of info about everything, including bottom surgery.

They describe phalloplasty as it is, however, they only describe MLD, and say that in our case, we go to Serbia and have MLD with dr. Miro (Miro also does abdominal, which they didn’t even mention).

When first researching stuff, I thought that was it. However, I then found out about RFF and ALT, and that MLD is actually quite uncommon, although common for Europe. I then also found out there’s great surgeons in München and Germany in general that do RFF and ALT, which is not far away and is the same distance for us as Serbia, pretty much.

In the guide, there’s also mention of numbness after surgery, saying “don’t worry, you’ll start to gain sensation in the phallus soon”. That’s absolutely misleading, as there’s not much sensation when it comes to MLD, no erotic and limited tactile. This could be a massive dealbreaker for somebody. They also have some incorrect data about the staging and how it all goes, which I suppose is how it used to go but has now changed. I’m tempted to write them an e-mail about it, just so it’s completely realistic.

Fortunately, I did my own research (as one should) prior to surgery and learnt about everything before even contacting the surgeon. I did end up going with MLD as that’s my best option, considering I’m very thin, so RFF is out, and have deep scars on my thighs (plus the year of electrolysis doesn’t sound too appealing to me, but that’s something that would have to be done), so who knows if that would also even be doable. I don’t regret it despite the limited sensation in the future.

Please do your own research!
...In the first few days, I regretted it 100000%, especially as it was my own conscious decision...
...being able to touch/hold my penis despite not feeling it, gives me a lot of happiness and euphoria...
...I now definitely don’t regret it, and can’t see myself as pre-op at all anymore...
...there’s not much sensation when it comes to MLD, no erotic and limited tactile...
...I don’t regret it despite the limited sensation in the future...
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Ridiculous Pooners :story:
That Testosterone does not react well with Female endocrine systems, you get a witches brew of all the aggression that comes with a Testosterone level higher than your body is used to (anyone who used to juice will know what that feels like - ie "roid rage") combined with the emotional volatility some Females experience when their estrogen levels are in flux.
So you have these hyper sensitive delusional Pooners that think they are men flying off the handle and raging :story: its priceless and one of the things that makes Pooners so entertaining to watch.
Despite all all her rage, she's still just a pooner in a cage.

More lyrics:

Come out ye pink and blues

Don't cower like the jews

Show reddit how you won medals in women's cycling

Tell them how the surgery

Makes you bleed from where you pee

And show us awful pictures that need a spoiler tag
 
In american units that's 4 inches in length and 6.5 inches in circumference. She wanted 6 inches and 5 inches.
Just pointing out that 6.5 inches in circumference and 4 inches in length are freaky proportions.
Anything past 6 inches in circumference puts you in "XL Condom" size, but even typical small-dick condoms can go up to 6 or sometimes 7 inches in length. If you have a 6.5 inch-circumference dick (Let's call this thing a dick for the sake of discussion) that's 4 inches long, you've got a bottom 1% length dick and a top 0.1% girth dick.
 
Just pointing out that 6.5 inches in circumference and 4 inches in length are freaky proportions.
Anything past 6 inches in circumference puts you in "XL Condom" size, but even typical small-dick condoms can go up to 6 or sometimes 7 inches in length. If you have a 6.5 inch-circumference dick (Let's call this thing a dick for the sake of discussion) that's 4 inches long, you've got a bottom 1% length dick and a top 0.1% girth dick.
The proper term is "chode".
 
u/nonbinaryphallo has made a collage of her phalloplasty journey.
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That is a horrifying series of pictures, but quite frankly, it's not the worst job I've seen. At a casual glance, the fake dick might be seen as simply unfortunate-looking instead of a frankenpenis.

Also, good job on the lady showing how nonbinary she is by conforming to gender norms of men having penises.
 
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