The current writers are the same as the previous writers, the difference is that now they don't have they're tard wrangler. Monty was being tard wrangled by Miles and Kerry but he was also simultaneously tard wrangling them by proxy. Neither side could go too far off the deep end before the other would check and balance.
They need something like this again.
They do but they're never going to get it. It was a very fine balance between a driven and incredibly eccentric creative putting all his passion into one project and two talentless idiots with just the correct amount of open mindedness to listen but not obey all the time. Monty would reign in Miles and Kerry when they started trying to get too deep and Miles and Kerry would reign in Monty when he got a bit too eccentric. It was a happy equilibrium. You would need not only a second Monty with all his strangeness and foibles, but a second Monty who doesn't mind applying all their talent and passion into someone else's project without trying to make it their own.
Everything I've heard of the early days was "Monty wanted to make his own show where cute anime girls fight monsters and RT gave him a blank check (by their standards) to make it happen".
And that was enough. Then after he died, the rest took a show that was only in rare moments super serious, and decided to make it all very serious (vol 4 and (parts of) 9 aside)
I feel like these bits were an attempt to give Cinder a real motive when they were several volumes into RWBY and were aware 1) she was popular (or at least had an attractive design they couldn't waste) and 2) she's already a major villain who needs to do something other than for 'the evulz'.
She wants to give her the relics for some reason, but in Volume 8 she is willing to lie about using the relic of knowledge. I assume Cinder essentially is trying to either:
tbf, it's not like you can permanently stop her plans. Ozpin is getting weaker and weaker, so even if Salem loses all her toys, she still wins eventually. Similarly, Cinder neither took steps to figure out Salem's weakness, nor could do any permanent damage to her or her plans. Salem made it quite clear that while she can show lenience and offer second chances, she doesn't actually care much about Cinder, and is manipulative towards Cinder to ensure her loyalty.
I feel like I remember that, but I can't find anything about it on the wiki. Do you remember where does scenes are?
I think I'd honestly like Cinder far more if she had died in Volume 5 after her fight with Raven. I don't know anyone (here or even if you look at the Reddit thread for RWBY) who doesn't think that Cinder didn't overstay her welcome.
Dr. Eggman with Salem being who you fight after you collect all seven Chaos Emeralds regular boss fight having a Darth Vader/Palpatine…Azula/Ozai relationship with Salem”. (Also, the V2 infiltration didn’t really go anywhere)
In the school or the tower? Because both of these were pretty important.
I'm actually cool with them not going that way. Cinder isn't the sharpest tool in the box, but she's smart enough to realize how utterly stupid of an idea that would be.
So like they did in Vol 5?
They could have also not done anything and left her the way she was. The Mysterious Beautiful Woman vibe worked well for her. What they did instead is try to make her better, but failed miserably, thereby exposing what shallow character she really is. They should have aimed for something more like Shego from Kim Possible and less something like bootleg pre-Shippuden Gaara from Naruto.
I can't recall what she did in the tower, but what effect did she have from infiltrating the school? The pay off was supposed to be that needle thing she was going to use against Pyrrha, but that led no where and she killed her without it.
I mean in the sense that they had Cinder and her cronies pose as students. What did it really accomplish? I really feel that any plans they had to learn about Beacon could have been done without that and if only really served to give Ruby and Team RNJR a place to head towards in V4.
You mean having her be the right hand who fights the hero and gives the toughest fight while also saying when a villain’s plan is stupid, instead of a violent psycho who only joins what amounts to a tournament arc to satisfy bloodlust?
Tower: put in a virus that remote controlled entire Atlas army to start firing on the huntsmen in the finale
To a lesser extent, probably. But Cinder also wanted to get the relic and the half-dead maiden, and she needed to scout for the locations. While the former failed, the latter she succeded in at.
Something like that, yeah. Cinder has questioned Salem before, so it could work. Basically give her enough character to work while not trying to add too much new stuff that could expose just how little you had thought of that character previously.
I think it's been speculated that Salem is looking to make a new world, with her at the top of the hierarchy and her minions having sweet gigs in it. If memory serves, Mercury talked about that in V6.
A plan that can be argued to be convoluted, made up on the fly, relying a lot on luck (like discovering Penny is a robot and using that info a day later in universe) and Ozpin being an idiot as him having some smarts could result in ways here the plan could flop.
I thought it was mega dumb and missed the mark in a lot of spots. It was sort of the beginning of them literally translating fairy tale shit into the show, and I don't understand what evil stepmom was doing getting a human child slave to abuse when Faunus slavery is legal in Atlus.
Yeah, but then Ozpin said she wants to kill herself, Emerald believed him, and then when Mercury didn’t believe her, Tyrian told him the plan is world wide genocide of all human life.
That makes far more sense than Ozpin’s take.
Well, Cinder was in charge of that operation, and we know she’s not good at planning. But she was good enough to take advantage of an oportunity when she saw it.
That’s still illegal, it’s just that SDC is rich (and therefore evil, I guess). The Great War treaty gave Faunus their own place to live (that they immedietely left to be abused at places like Atlas) and gave them all equal rights.
No, that was Volume 6 that started that with Salem’s backstory.
Like fuck, I hate that faggot. Why the fuck did he did nothing? It’s not even implied that his superiors stopped him or any sort of actual explanation.
No subtitles, so I have no idea what's being said. The tone doesn't seem to fit the scenes shown though, but that may be because of how Japanease voices sound in general. At any rate, hope the Japanease enjoy the volume!
