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What are the UAP?

  • PsyOp

    Votes: 578 52.2%
  • Glitches

    Votes: 115 10.4%
  • Illusion

    Votes: 132 11.9%
  • Ayylamos

    Votes: 360 32.5%
  • Extradimensional Entity

    Votes: 281 25.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 239 21.6%
  • Atlantis

    Votes: 152 13.7%

  • Total voters
    1,108
A narration of recent interesting 4chan posts (so of course take them with a grain of salt the size of Chantal).
 

I suggested that the Reps should go to the ICIG to hear the juicy Grusch testimony, bypassing any Grusch clearance issues. It seems that they are pursuing that. I hope it does not take forever, the waiting is gay.

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Tim is not particularly optimistic about his own attempt:
 
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Since this thread is a bit slow right now, I want to ask fellow kiwis how their friends and family would react to the news of aliens being real.
I dont think anyone would believe it. Some of my family is also very, very religious. The schizos (like, actual schizophrenics) would freak tf out. My grandma already hoards food and water and moves every 6 months (various family members hold onto her massive barrels of water for her) because she thinks bill clinton himself is after her and her ghost ancestors that keep her company. The religious ones may believe it is a sign of the End Times where demons show themselves and start screaming that Biden really is the antichrist. I think most everyone else will think it is a cover story for something else that is big. I want to believe so bad, but I dont think I coukd make myself even if the govt came out and showed us non human biological material in a ziploc baggie live on camera. Personally, I think it is more likely that Grusch is in on it too as part of the cover up and I think the most likely thing being covered is US troops fighting Russians on the ground in Ukraine. But I *really* want it to be ayylmaos and not ww3.
 
Brother's convinced it's a psyop of some sort. Basically the plot of Deus Ex, that it's a manufactured phenomenon to make the population confused, uncertain and scared. Dad thinks they're real and the equivalent to faefolk, mom's side of the family says they're demons.

Friends mostly just think it's a cultural psychological phenomenon and we're witnessing a new religion form based around misinterpreted experiences. 2 of my friends are hoping its real, one wants to leave with the aliens to explore the cosmos and the other wants everyone else to leave so the planet can heal and "we can get our shit together ". Opinions have been all over the place.
Thus has been my experience. My good friend is pretty convinced it's a 50/50 possibility of being one of two things (and that we will know for certain in 12 months when schumers UAP disclosure act concludes).

1) Its a disinformation campaign to either secure space force funding for a generation (or to stop grusch from whistleblowing on an illegal overcharging-to-fund-skunk-works program). In this case, it would explain why so many fed/Intel types are randomly coming forward with what would normally be too good to be true type storys, and the media has been blowing it up in the last 5 years. Grusch recently experienced a hit piece in the media.

2) (and this is my preferred theory) Fravor did see something amazing that day, graves is telling the truth, tom delong just happens to be the most connected, glowie, punk rocker ever, and we are 100% being watched by a more advanced alien species; they've probably been watching us for a very.long.time. Ancient aliens type long. This would explain why things heated up after we started testing nukes.

Curiously, my one coworker went from "believing in aliens is unscientific lunacy" to "I don't see how it's not aliens at this point". Lot of of people are slowly warming up to the idea that this really could be disclosure. As for me, I can't quite get over fravors testimony (and the video that corresponded) to explain all of this in terrestrial means. That, and the story about the nuke silos being shut down by a UAP for a few minutes. They drive me nuts, and I just wish we had more data on both of them.
 
Curiously, my one coworker went from "believing in aliens is unscientific lunacy" to "I don't see how it's not aliens at this point". Lot of of people are slowly warming up to the idea that this really could be disclosure. As for me, I can't quite get over fravors testimony (and the video that corresponded) to explain all of this in terrestrial means. That, and the story about the nuke silos being shut down by a UAP for a few minutes. They drive me nuts, and I just wish we had more data on both of them.
Looks like all the minor alien disclosures during the Obama/Trump years and alien stuff in mass media has been slowly but surely warming up the masses to aliens. All TPTB would need to kick their plans into overdrive and scare the whole world into complying would be a staged alien invasion.
 
Curiously, my one coworker went from "believing in aliens is unscientific lunacy" to "I don't see how it's not aliens at this point".
My friends and I have had very similar trajectories. It feels like another gay frogs or Wuhan lab misinformation campaign.

I might have missed this, but has there been any non-alien explanation for Brazil’s May 1986 sightings?

(I really hope aliens are on Earth.)
 
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Aliens probably exist, and they are probably lame and only interesting when first discovered. Then we learn about their culture and it's probably similar to ours only more advanced when it comes to technology. But everything else is just the same old garbage we have to deal with. Soy Aliens, lolcow aliens, annoying celebrity aliens, alien fast food, alien version of Netflix, alien capeshit movies, alien taxes, alien social media, alien version of Amazon, alien social justice warriors etc. etc.

Then they become boring and just another part of life. I prefer this over a war of the worlds scenario.

I'm horrified by the thought of Alien Epstein, Alien Bill Gates, Alien Klaus Schwab.
 
I'm horrified by the thought of Alien Epstein, Alien Bill Gates, Alien Klaus Schwab.
It would actually make so much sense if come to find out that certain elites/political figures are actually alien/interdimensional beings. It would explain their non-human lack of morality, and, also why some of them are so concerned with spreading their seed.

Epstein was infamously obsessed by the idea of populating the earth; he's even been quoted by a few MIT folk during his island "retreats", asking about the technicalities behind trying to set up a program that would impregnate women with his spunk, in an efficient way.

I get the creepies at night sometimes thinking about whether or not these hypothetical "observers" arent just observing, but actively carrying out a grand experiment of sorts. Covert assimilation, genetic modification over a span of time etc.
 

The All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) launched a website. The secure reporting system is not yet active. The Debrief thinks that functionality is coming in October.

AARO's Director Sean Kirkpatrick now reports directly to Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks. This is supposedly a good development.

DoD should have some press release related to this today. Edit: here (archive).


AARO will be accepting reports from current or former U.S. Government employees, service members, or contractors with direct knowledge of U.S. Government programs or activities related to UAP dating back to 1945*. These reports will be used to inform AARO’s congressionally directed Historical Record Report.
By the way, since I was wondering. AARO didn't choose 1945 as the starting point. It's explicitly stated in the bill:
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(i) <<NOTE: Time period.>> focus on the period beginning on January 1, 1945, and ending on the date on which the Director of the Office completes activities under this subsection;
These are all goodies from the 2023 NDAA. The 2024 NDAA with its review board and eminent domain hasn't even been signed into law yet:
* By law, AARO may receive all UAP-related information, including any classified national security information involving military, intelligence, and intelligence-related activities, at all levels of classification regardless of any restrictive access controls, special access programs, or compartmented access programs.  Moreover, there is no restriction to AARO receiving any past or present UAP-related information, regardless of the organizational affiliation of the original classification authority within DoD, the Intelligence Community, or any other U.S. government department or agency. Any classified national security information may be provided to AARO in a secure location, but may not be provided through this form.

NDAA FY2023, section 1673(b)(1): An authorized disclosure shall not be subject to a nondisclosure agreement entered into by the individual who makes the disclosure; shall be deemed to comply with any regulation or order issued under the authority of Executive Order 13526 (50 U.S.C. 31617 note; relating to classified national security information) or chapter 18 of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 (42 U.S.D. 2271 et seq.); and is not a violation of section 798 of title 11 18, United States Code, or other provision of law relating to the disclosure of information.
 
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@The Mass Shooter Ron Soye
* By law, AARO may receive all UAP-related information, including any classified national security information involving military, intelligence, and intelligence-related activities, at all levels of classification regardless of any restrictive access controls, special access programs, or compartmented access programs.  Moreover, there is no restriction to AARO receiving any past or present UAP-related information, regardless of the organizational affiliation of the original classification authority within DoD, the Intelligence Community, or any other U.S. government department or agency. Any classified national security information may be provided to AARO in a secure location, but may not be provided through this form.

NDAA FY2023, section 1673(b)(1): An authorized disclosure shall not be subject to a nondisclosure agreement entered into by the individual who makes the disclosure; shall be deemed to comply with any regulation or order issued under the authority of Executive Order 13526 (50 U.S.C. 31617 note; relating to classified national security information) or chapter 18 of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 (42 U.S.D. 2271 et seq.); and is not a violation of section 798 of title 11 18, United States Code, or other provision of law relating to the disclosure of information.
That's pretty explicit. Sounds like someone is getting annoyed at the constant fuckery from the DOD.
 
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@The Mass Shooter Ron Soye

That's pretty explicit. Sounds like someone is getting annoyed at the constant fuckery from the DOD.
Quite possibly, but as a reminder, these are requirements from the 2023 NDAA, which was cooked up in 2022. It's not new.

You might be able to pinpoint specific parts of the law as originating from a particular Senator or Representative, but I'm not sure.
 
Didn't see it, thanks.

This Debrief article just popped up about his Sol Foundation:

Meanwhile, John Greenewald is trying to reconstruct Luis Elizondo's damn emails by spamming FOIAs:

Vice/Motherboard four-part miniseries "Encounters" coming to Netflix on Sept. 27.
 
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So did anyone else see the latest Grusch interview? It is very casual and pretty interesting. I haven't had a chance to watch the whole thing, but what I've listened to so far has been good. Idk who this YouTuber is interviewing him and I'm kind of annoyed at how much he talks, but besides that I can't complain:
Have added it to my watchlist, but the automatic system could not have chosen a more unfortunate thumbnail 👁👄👁
 
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I really wish i spoke spanish. The bodies look like sand.
ill save you the trouble, published 2017
the only relevent part
"However, in a blow to people hoping for proof of alien visitations of Earth, the samples were concluded to be a 100 percent match to human DNA."
some other images from different articles on the same topic to prove theyre the same bodies
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NAZCA TOMB: DNA results are in on the 'mummified aliens'... and they are REAL beings
EXCLUSIVE: Alien hunters hoping to prove the Nazca tombs contained extraterrestrials have been left shocked after tests on the mummified remains found they contained DNA from living beings.

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The bodies, which included a three-fingered corpse, were reportedly found in a tomb near the Nazca Lines in southern Peru, and it was thought by some researchers they could be a newly undiscovered species or even aliens.

Scientists were unable to get DNA codes from some of the samples sent for analysis, however DNA types were confirmed for a three-fingered hand, and from a brain tissue sample.
However, in a blow to people hoping for proof of alien visitations of Earth, the samples were concluded to be a 100 percent match to human DNA.

Both the hand and brain tissue were found to come from a male homo sapien, according to a report from Paleo DNA laboratory at Lakehead University, Ontario, Canada, now available online.

It said: "The evidence suggests the source of DNA from the biological material from the cranial brain and the bone extracted from the hand belongs to homo sapiens (humans)."

Conspiracy theory website Gaia.com ran a series of videos which claimed the bodies had been found in a tomb near the Nazca Lines in southern Peru, and it was thought they could be a newly undiscovered species or even alien.

The bodies were carbon dated to between 245 to 410 AD, but genuine scientists believe they have been created to look like aliens using the "grave-robbed" mummified remains of anciently-buried humans.

The organisers of the ninth annual World Congress on Mummy Studies, which took place in Lima, Peru, last August, issued an angry call on Facebook for an official inquiry into whether archaeological crimes have been committed.

The congress brings together world experts in mummies and skeletons in a new location each year.

Under the heading ‘The Fraud of Extraterrestrial Mummies’, translated from Spanish, the congress said it believed real human mummified remains had been mutated and re-arranged to create bogus alien-looking creatures.

Commenting on the DNA results, British UFO investigator Nigel Watson said: "It shows it has a male human skull and hands. Another fake bites the dust."

However, Gaia.com has since released a further video suggesting it could be a being closely related to humans and still from outer space.

Dr Konstantin Korotkov, who is working with Gaia.com on the project, and claims to have previously photographed a soul leaving a human body, suggested in the video they may only be related to human DNA.

He said: "From the first DNA analysis, it was proven it’s not chimpanzee, it’s not monkey, but it’s human-like DNA.

"Because we know that now we have three types of human like creatures. It is Neanderthals, Cro-Magnon like ourselves, and Denisovan.

"Now, at next level, they have to make much more detailed analysis, and much more complicated analysis, so they will create a library of genes, and then they will be able to compare it with database of human subjects.

"Then, we’ll see whether it is exactly human like, or it is little bit different.”

The team said early DNA results of another mummy, named “Maria”, show she is female, and that carbon dating samples from the body matched the hand making manipulation of body parts unlikely.

Mexican journalist Jaime Maussan, who is also working with Gaia.com, said they were now testing smaller reptilian looking bodies.

He said: “They are very very similar. It is like a reptile skin, a snake skin.

"It proves we have two types of beings.

"If we can prove they are real we would have six bodies - enough evidence to say this case is real."
 

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