Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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I always took Matt Bahr 6 as a giant faggot, but after listening to finatra stream snipe a rant, I must say your not a flaming faggot, your a dickhead covered in shit .... but more respect for you than before for being a better shit streamer on you tube, than a shit poster on Kiwifams....
He can be a faggot, but it seems he has no issue saying what he really thinks, which is refreshing from people in that space.

Captain finity Arch is fucking weird. Why was this guy ever relevant to begin with?
He is content. Shitty content is still content when you have almost daily streams. That's how you end up with people like Puma Fist being welcomed with open arms, not just by the slums.
 
Shitty content is still content when you have almost daily streams. That's how you end up with people like Puma Fist being welcomed with open arms, not just by the slums.

I am an old fag, I remember Oz arts Getting a bong turning on a stream and letting any one show up creating endless hours of content and drama from Lazerus spering about the illuminaughti, Testify Mind fucking Oz, War Campaign IBS EVS, to Berserk Guts drunken spergz, it was a fun time..... Now days the slums is a hug box for the CG green room, Dark drift and dillard draws seem to run the operation now its not any fun.....

no outside thought, no criticism allowed, No humility, They did Patrick Parnell dirty, I don't really care about him or ever watch his shit, but these CG kings had him on for years and no one had a problem till he called out some truths ... same with Fowler, Adam Post, Wenger, and a shit load of others who made the CG community fun keeping people enguaged maybe even willing to open there wallets .... now days CG is a fucking corpse of its former self.

All internet outrage counter culture movements follow the same trend from gamergate to Fantom menace to CG ..... a fan base is disgruntled, they let a grifter come in and speak for them, over time the speaker becomes the tyrant, and the movement dies .....

Yeah Adam post was reselling 10 year old web comics,
Wanger was making Linkara quality dog shit
PTP was using students to make a comic franchise no one really gave a fuck about, but the point is not the Art the comic books or the story, after 6 years I can't name 10 copmics in CG that are better than marvel or DC .......

Its about enguagement, and the community, and the shit posting, and the money comes in if you keep the community enguaged. Enguagement is falling off a cliff and its not because of the economy, its bec ause ethan van sciver is a back stabbing arrogant prick who is destroying the entire franchise ..... To pretend its not true makes you a simp to a guy who could turn all this shit around, if he practiced some of the qualities of the religion he was raised in ...... forgiveness, humility,
 
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no outside thought, no criticism allowed, No humility, They did Patrick Parnell dirty, I don't really care about him or ever watch his shit, but these CG kings had him on for years and no one had a problem till he called out some truths ... same with Fowler, Adam Post, Wenger, and a shit load of others who made the CG community fun keeping people enguaged maybe even willing to open there wallets .... now days CG is a fucking corpse of its former self.
PTP, Post and Wenger aren't even remotely entertaining on or off stream. The only one that would be close to entertaining would be Wenger and that was to only laugh at the obvious basset hound blood that was introduced in his backwoods family tree a few generations ago.
 
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PTP, Post and Wenger aren't even remotely entertaining on or off stream. The only one that would be close to entertaining would be Wenger and that was to only laugh at the obvious basset hound blood that was introduced in his backwoods family tree a few generations ago.
if so un entertaining why does ethan keep them as props on his live streams for years? the point being you have no stance on who is entertaining or not its what ever ethan and the kings tell you is entertaining ..... next week maybe you all disavow kelsey wich already kind of happened .... you lap it up

Kelsey was never CG! Richard C Meyer for all his personal exposure created the entire movement, and you fucks treat him as if he was vikkiverse herself. you have no stance, you have no position, your followers of a cult and your giant faggots!
 
not much is happening in comicsgate, outside the july/juju/vito arc. i have a general question about the quality of these comicsgate books. are they any good? at best, i heard they are a throwback to the early 90s image comics. at worst, they are shallow characters with no coherent story.
 
if so un entertaining why does ethan keep them as props on his live streams for years? the point being you have no stance on who is entertaining or not its what ever ethan and the kings tell you is entertaining ..... next week maybe you all disavow kelsey wich already kind of happened .... you lap it up

Kelsey was never CG! Richard C Meyer for all his personal exposure created the entire movement, and you fucks treat him as if he was vikkiverse herself. you have no stance, you have no position, your followers of a cult and your giant faggots!
Umm ok. First off, you keep using "you" as if I am any part of the shit storm known as CG. I'm not. Second, I never said I didn't agree with you that CG was dead/dying. CG has been on life support for so long it is only a matter of pulling the final plug and it is dead. It's just most of your examples are shit. Yea Frog and CG have fucked over people and pushed them out. Lets be real, Wenger got what he deserved because he thought he was entitled to having his shitty ass comic shown on Frogs stream and when he didn't get that and was laughed at he made the sperggist of sperggy videos about it. Post got pushed out because he was buying up shitty web comics and lyingly presenting them as his own creations. To make it worse, some of the original creators on those web comics turned out to be woke ass SJWs(I will say I was slightly more sympathetic to Post after Mandy was able to not only get away with, but was blindly defended by most of CG when it came out that she pretty much copied her gemshock character from another comic). I feel like PTP got fucked over a little with the whole Dale thing, but he should have kept it private and not made some sperggy video with his wife to bring it out in the public. Also, Frog tried on the ballers show a week or 2 ago to try and get the others to have PTP back on and for everyone to be friends again. Simple Zack has pretty much backtracked on most everything he was spouting off about during early CG and even privated/deleted videos. He also pretty much called Frog and CG clowns for live streaming so much.

You mentioned Kelsey, who I defended just a few post ago. The other person you mentioned that I think was truly fucked over is Fowler. He was pushed out and ostracized for questioning why CG was just blindly defending Mandy's copied Gemshock character and not holding her accountable for her actions. I will also mention that I wouldn't consider Fowler a bedrock of CG creators and he was never a big contributor on Frogs streams.
 
not much is happening in comicsgate, outside the july/juju/vito arc. i have a general question about the quality of these comicsgate books. are they any good? at best, i heard they are a throwback to the early 90s image comics. at worst, they are shallow characters with no coherent story.
In general they are not that good, especially for the high price and long waits, and all the shit talking that they can do better than the big 2. Most of the creators will make you so angry with their laziness and idiocy that by the time you finally if ever get the book you won't even want it. But if I had to pick some better ones- Deus Vult had great art (Buscema homage) and nice colors. But the writer Del Arroz is a wife beating round headed faggot, a good friend of Vito, and his other books suck. The Mike Baron cop book Thin Blue Line was what it advertised to be: a cop story, not anti-cop. Shouldn't really be too controversial given cop TV shows but here we are. The artist is also an irl cop so equipment and whatnot is accurate. Baron at least is not afraid to write his politics into the books, while a lot of other Comicsgate stuff is dull and about nothing because it avoids politics. But he is a writer with a track record going far back beyond Comicsgate to Nexus, Badger, Punisher etc.
Umm ok. First off, you keep using "you" as if I am any part of the shit storm known as CG.
@Fascist Kirk might be following in the footsteps of "twitteriscancer" in sperging out about this is a hugbox until banned. I myself am here to shit on CG, and we're running low on CG. It's pretty much dead and @FROG and his little tadpoles like @NasserRabadi13 don't even post here anymore.
 
In general they are not that good, especially for the high price and long waits, and all the shit talking that they can do better than the big 2. Most of the creators will make you so angry with their laziness and idiocy that by the time you finally if ever get the book you won't even want it. But if I had to pick some better ones- Deus Vult had great art (Buscema homage) and nice colors. But the writer Del Arroz is a wife beating round headed faggot, a good friend of Vito, and his other books suck. The Mike Baron cop book Thin Blue Line was what it advertised to be: a cop story, not anti-cop. Shouldn't really be too controversial given cop TV shows but here we are. The artist is also an irl cop so equipment and whatnot is accurate. Baron at least is not afraid to write his politics into the books, while a lot of other Comicsgate stuff is dull and about nothing because it avoids politics. But he is a writer with a track record going far back beyond Comicsgate to Nexus, Badger, Punisher etc.

@Fascist Kirk might be following in the footsteps of "twitteriscancer" in sperging out about this is a hugbox until banned. I myself am here to shit on CG, and we're running low on CG. It's pretty much dead and @FROG and his little tadpoles like @NasserRabadi13 don't even post here anymore.
Frog's birthday was Sunday (49), did he even stream? The past few years he's held a celebration of himself.
 
Frog's birthday was Sunday (49), did he even stream? The past few years he's held a celebration of himself.

Yeah he streamed, I just watched a few random minutes and Mike Baron has a new mailman who's kind of a dick, FROG gives Malin shit for having a now entire year late book. Shane Davis has very nice teeth, like an Aztec Skull quips Baron. FROG responds to a chat about how's his diet going by mentioning there is a giant empty box of Tim Horton's donuts next to the desk. Seems like a typical going thru the motions hangout stream where they look at stupid articles and that bloated bong az's pronouns Starfield outrage video that is going viral getting roasted far and wide across youtube and tik tok.
 
ummm rippaverse bros.....

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Simple Zack has pretty much backtracked on most everything he was spouting off about during early CG and even privated/deleted videos. He also pretty much called Frog and CG clowns for live streaming so much.
Yeah he streamed, I just watched a few random minutes
Malin joins CG Kings later and they talk about backing Zack in some People's Choice comic book awards or something.
 
In general they are not that good, especially for the high price and long waits, and all the shit talking that they can do better than the big 2. Most of the creators will make you so angry with their laziness and idiocy that by the time you finally if ever get the book you won't even want it. But if I had to pick some better ones- Deus Vult had great art (Buscema homage) and nice colors. But the writer Del Arroz is a wife beating round headed faggot, a good friend of Vito, and his other books suck. The Mike Baron cop book Thin Blue Line was what it advertised to be: a cop story, not anti-cop. Shouldn't really be too controversial given cop TV shows but here we are. The artist is also an irl cop so equipment and whatnot is accurate. Baron at least is not afraid to write his politics into the books, while a lot of other Comicsgate stuff is dull and about nothing because it avoids politics. But he is a writer with a track record going far back beyond Comicsgate to Nexus, Badger, Punisher etc.

@Fascist Kirk might be following in the footsteps of "twitteriscancer" in sperging out about this is a hugbox until banned. I myself am here to shit on CG, and we're running low on CG. It's pretty much dead and @FROG and his little tadpoles like @NasserRabadi13 don't even post here anymore.

I Spend most of my kiwi Time on News and happenning .... if I get banned for shitting in a CG Hug box all the better you all prove the point your a simp and this is a hug box ........ new fags should go autistic and read this thread from the begenning and see how cultist this is. May be confusing because half the posts are replies to people the mods of the cg hug box banned.
 
I didn't think this was real. Good grief. So much for keeping politics out of muh funnybooks, apparently.

Odd, because the videos @FROG is doing lately are watchable, as much as his livestreams remain tedious and cringeworthy.
I guess he's hoping the remaining paypigs have forgotten how in the months following the election during all the Kraken silliness Frog was pretty disgusted with Trump and said he was a disgrace, had disqualified himself from running again and should ride off into the sunset.

He's sold 291 of them so far.

 
Dumb question: Do sites like https://www.fundmycomic.com/about have any chance of succeeding, in or out of Comicsgate?

I'm guessing if nobody signs up they wither and die, and if too many people sign up/a few projects take off for more than a pittance of shekels they get pressured/threatened by Paypal/Visa/Mastercard/whoever else there is to get in line or get deplatformed.
 
It's getting pretty grim out there folks.



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Revenue generated for 2023 campaigns so far

On the face of it, a gross increase of +4% between this year and 2022 is not bad. Not great but not bad. Then you factor in that both Cyberfrog 3 and Jawbreakers 5 were both launched this year and collectively Comicsgate has only managed to tread water, then it comes off as really bad. Only when one removes Frog from both 2022 and 2023 does what's happening become apparant. The separation between short head' and long tail (that is, the threshhold between significant and average CG campaigns) has gone from $50,950 in 2020 to around $23,900 in 2023. What that means is that the median CG comic no longer generates enough money to be a feasible profession and, at most, becomes an exercise in hobbyist self-publishing indistinguishable from the rest of the indies. If Cyberfrog 3 goes from 1.2 million to 500K, Frog isn't starving. If a 60K campaign goes to 30 however, that may break the business. Since one of the main tenets of Comicsgate is that bowing to the woke is not necessary because one could go independent with the help of 'da movement', the debunking of this claim presages a deep reduction of and shift in the motivations of the people willing to remain a part of it. As we're already starting to see. Only eight creators have cleared $50,000 this year, with Vito Gesuldi being the most prominent Comicsgater making original material other than EVS.

Looking at the graph of the top 40 campaigns of this year so far, one might think FundMyComic was a ghost town of a platform. Not so. In fact, more creators have signed on with FundMyComic this year so far (86) than Indiegogo (64, the lowest on record). But while FMC may have more CG campaigns hosted on it than IGG, FMC campaings have brought in less than 1/20th of the revenue that IGG campaings have. Why this is is not exactly clear. It could be FMC's courting of creators exclusively leaving them with a consumer protection policy about as robust as a condomless sex romp through Port Au Prince. It could be the reluctance of major CG creators to cover, bring traffic or lend support behind the platform in any meaningful way, or that the ability of CG's ubiquitous 'chlll and shill' livestreams as a means of driving traffic to sites over mailing lists has been severely overrated. Or maybe all of the above. Whatever the cause, it spells nothing good for the prospects of smaller creators.

Dumb question: Do sites like https://www.fundmycomic.com/about have any chance of succeeding, in or out of Comicsgate?
The costs of setting up and maintaining FMC are very small. Enough to be covered with a 5% take on ~100K of funds raised, so I don't think it's going anywhere any time soon. That it took some guy who spent half a year in a medicated COVID coma like Luke Stone, who's five digits in the hole after the Target comics grift, to do it really goes to show how little effort has been put in by the 'leadership' towards advancing or even stabilizing CG after 5 years beyond Youtube livestreaming.


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Simple Zack's latest get-poor-quick scheme, since I guess the "buy a comic for $1" move with Jawbreakers 4 failed to get backers to return, was to get people to buy two copies for $30. Then his customers can serve as unpaid promoters of his product and give them away to libraries, people they don't like and dumpsters on behalf of Zack. You see, it's very personally inconvenient to Richard C Meyer to have to actually market his own comic, and he'd prefer it if his fans customers backers would just do it for him instead and free him up for more worthwhile pursuits, like attending shoe store events and tirelessly covering the social media accounts of a handful of low level female Marvel employees. It's sort of like how a dealer gives the junkie the first taste for free, only instead of smack it's a comic where the badly defined characters with no origin either as individuals or a team have to be unkilled using Rick and Morty parallel universe magic because Meyer retardedly killed them off in G0dK1Ng. Will the shitty patchwork retcon issue bring droves of new readers in to the Jawbreakers universe and start buying back issues to find out the origins and backstory of these characters, which Zack never actually bothered to write in? Meyer seems to think so. What is he going to do when Chuck Dixon wakes up one morning and realizes he sells more comics than Simple Zack now thanks to his appearances on FNT and Eric July's show, and takes Stallone's IPs away?
 
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