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I can't help but wonder if a mod changed it on his behalf lmaoI never said you were doxed I asked why your pfp is your face.
After decades of feminists saying women never lie. Despite clear evidence to the contrary. Even with feminists going so far as to cite statistics which say as much as 1 in 50 accusations are false in an attempt to maintain the narrative (the cognitive dissonance must be excruciating). That after hearing over and over again that rape is under reported (how the informed know this is beyond me - I guess they practice divination). That some of us, who aren't feminists, would take such a stance as most accusations being false. Apparently only women are granted the right to a cynical disposition. Oh, but I guess some retard wasn't arrested and we'll make some vague gestures towards rape in the military as yet more proof women don't lie. And all of this over the matter of women losing custody after accusing their husbands of abuse in family courts. Days, weeks, months and hell even years after the abuse was alleged to occur. Truly you are an idiot.
After decades of men saying women always lie. Despite clear evidence to the contrary. Even with le patterwacky going so far as to suppress statistics which say as much as 1 in 4 women are sexually assaulted in an attempt to maintain the narrative.. yadda yadda yadda
Honestly, the course of this entire thread should inspire another Census 2023 topic: Kiwifarms and You. Questions entirely aimed at the individual users and their reasons for joining this site. Obviously, this thread has caused two entirely different factions to seethe at each other which raises those very questions.
My suspicion is that the men ITT came from imageboards like /pol/, /cow/, MPC (RIP), Salo Forum and other such places whereas the women likely came from Reddit (especially r/GenderCritical and r/drama), Twitter, Crystal Cafe, lolcow.farm and similar sites. It's obvious both camps are mutually hostile and uncompromising, so it'll be fascinating to see what motivated their decision to join our little corner. Of course, it could possible that many just came from the internet drama community (Encyclopedia Dramatica, /cow/, /pt/) and simply are here for the spectacle.
The uncomfortable question to ask here is which portion of users are willing to become true and honest fans. That'll be much more interesting. Which camp is willing to shell out more to sustain this site?
If I ever saw a reason why women should be forbidden on the internet, here's one.I grew up with unsupervised access to the internet
BP splinters off like onionfarms, and becomes the better lolcow.farmsWhat would you consider uncompromising? I know some posters on here would love it if autistic thunderdome was deleted off KF. I've not heard of any one saying BP should be deleted off KF.
The people who want the Autistic Thunderdome deleted are weaklings who can't cope with the reality that Western civilization is measurably getting worse and there will be absolutely no escape from its decline. I've heard them bitch, moan and complain endlessly when they refuse to present an alternative. The fact is the world is getting more political, and while no one's asking you to shill for whatever dubious interest group maybe promoting, desperately trying to flee and insist others join you in flight is a dishonest attempt to depoliticize and ignore measurable problems afflicting our society.What would you consider uncompromising? I know some posters on here would love it if autistic thunderdome was deleted off KF. I've not heard of any one saying BP should be deleted off KF.
Unfortunately the West is way too dependent on immigrants for population growth to ever kick them out.The people who want the Autistic Thunderdome deleted are weaklings who can't cope with the reality that Western civilization is measurably getting worse and there will be absolutely no escape from its decline. I've heard them bitch, moan and complain endlessly when they refuse to present an alternative. The fact is the world is getting more political, and while no one's asking you to shill for whatever dubious interest group maybe promoting, desperately trying to flee and insist others join you in flight is a dishonest attempt to depoliticize and ignore measurable problems afflicting our society.
"there is no other site like this" yeah I agree, very few places are going to hold an open, hundreds-of-pages-long debate where holocaust deniers are allowed to defy logic, reason, history, etc. I respect Null's commitment to freedom of expression, because I so value the opportunity to call you a retarded Nazi faggot.Yes, this site was founded to mock the willfully stupid decisions of the internet's village idiots. Nobody has ever denied this, and what draws me to this site is that there is no other site quite like this. There is nothing in any other community that matches the collective meticulousness in documenting the erratic behavior of particular individuals. That actual journalists come here and source posts for their articles speak to our reach.
If you think the world is going to race war, I got bad news for you. You don't have enough white guys to mount a secession. The one thing strongly correlated with revolution is the number of unemployed young men you can send out to fight... whatever for you. And the demographic winds aren't blowing your way. You know that, I pretend not to know that, but we can level here, can't we? I know, Rick, you think you're a cool Spartan and all and each of you genocide enjoyers is worth 100 dangerhairs. But you won't be fighting dangerhairs, you'll be fighting the goddamn National Guard. You think government will stand by and let a lynch mob sweep though? You're wrong. That's normal for you, though. After all, you are a Holocaust denier.As to what I would consider uncompromising, do you see anti-racists and racists coming to anything mutually agreeable? Do you see feminists and anti-feminists coming to anything mutually agreeable? The course of this entire thread has shown ample evidence to the contrary. Put plainly, you're going to have to cope with that fact that people will have conflicts of interest.
I have never once denied the Holocaust. I've mostly been letting the thread take its course and let the affirmers, revisionists and deniers duke it out.Holocaust denier.
I don't think it's a bad thing. If you censor it or any other subject, it becomes some kind of forbidden knowledge, attractive to a curious mind. If you allow such discussion anybody with at least half of a brain will see that it's just retarded schizo-gibberish."there is no other site like this" yeah I agree, very few places are going to hold an open, hundreds-of-pages-long debate where holocaust deniers are allowed to defy logic, reason, history, etc
Stop calling me that.Okay Miss Piggy
That’s uh, your opinion man. I’m fairly certain that inciting a race war will result in mobilization of the police, National Guard to break up the lynch posse. I’m not sure what my residential history or appearance has to do with this.It's not like the federal government is going to put in the effort to protect their own citizens much less some chunky woman from New York.
I think the Holocaust thread is way too soft on deniers and gives them a place to peddle their ideology and indoctrinate others, like Lemmingwise tried to indoctrinate me. There’s a difference between reading Mein Kampf as a historical document and reading Mein Kampf to lionize its author and promote antisemitism; and I think the Holocaust thread skews towards the latter kind of discussion.I don't think it's a bad thing. If you censor it or any other subject, it becomes some kind of forbidden knowledge, attractive to a curious mind. If you allow such discussion anybody with at least half of a brain will see that it's just retarded schizo-gibberish.
Easy, you’re just a meat shield for the federal government while the disenfranchised will loot and pillage, the government will simply jump ship.Stop calling me that.
That’s uh, your opinion man. I’m fairly certain that inciting a race war will result in mobilization of the police, National Guard to break up the lynch posse. I’m not sure what my residential history or appearance has to do with this.
I think the Holocaust thread is way too soft on deniers and gives them a place to peddle their ideology and indoctrinate others, like Lemmingwise tried to indoctrinate me. There’s a difference between reading Mein Kampf as a historical document and reading Mein Kampf to lionize its author and promote antisemitism; and I think the Holocaust thread skews towards the latter kind of discussion.
So you admit it's not that bad. Unless we consider Lemmingwise a master demagogue.I think the Holocaust thread is way too soft on deniers and gives them a place to peddle their ideology and indoctrinate others, like Lemmingwise tried to indoctrinate me.
What discussion is there to be had? There are camps, entire infrastructure supporting the camps, graves, even testimonies from people on both sides. It's like discussing with a Young Earth creationist and showing him dinosaur bones only to hear that God planted them to test our faith. You can either ban the discussion, go into a shouting match or use it to learn something about the world. In my opinion only the last option is a constructive one.There’s a difference between reading Mein Kampf as a historical document and reading Mein Kampf to lionize its author and promote antisemitism; and I think the Holocaust thread skews towards the latter kind of discussion.
No, it sucks. I had to listen to him whinge on Discord about how the ~brown people~ are doing a secret intifada in Europe to outbreed the Uebermenschen in order to commit white genocide and dismantle polite society. Sometimes when people do this I will nod and smile and let them gimme their spiel. Lemmings' spiel was basically The 14 Words lite.So you admit it's not that bad. Unless we consider Lemmingwise a master demagogue.
I spent a long time in that thread asking the simple questions like "well, if they weren't gassed in the camps, where did these people go? They seem to have been taken into Nazi custody and were never heard from again." And then the old Nazi farts would spin their wheels really hard about subjects I never want to think about again, like crematory thermal physics, how long it takes to burn bodies, the number of bullets required to liquidate the Lodz ghetto, the concentration of residual cyanide on the inside of the gas chamber, how much Zyklon B was actually used for delousing clothing etc. They just go right into minutia and refuse to see the birch forest for the trees.What discussion is there to be had? There are camps, entire infrastructure supporting the camps, graves, even testimonies from people on both sides. It's like discussing with a Young Earth creationist and showing him dinosaur bones only to hear that God planted them to test our faith. You can either ban the discussion, go into a shouting match or use it to learn something about the world. In my opinion only the last option is a constructive one.
I disagree, that stupid discussion has been going on for years and the thread is so unpleasant for normal people that is has basically become a clubhouse for wannabe klansmen.It's a fallacy I often notice in modern discourse: that if people encounter an idea they'll adapt it as their own without any critical thought so it's best to remove undesirable ideas from the public sight. In my opinion it's better to have such ideas discussed and scrutinized openly in public because knowledge is to such ideas what garlic is to vampires.
I know it was. The Allies aren't perfect liberators; Antisemitism was prevalent in America, UK, and Canada. And as the Allies poured their energy into anti-value targets, like bombing the shit out of major cities, the Nazi party actually accelerated its Final Solution. The end result is that Europe is basically Jew-free; anyone who didn't get killed fucked off to New York City or Israel.Also, fun fact, denial was pretty mainstream when the Holocaust was happening.
One could argue that it's because the conversation was relegated to places like this one or, much worse, image boards and hugboxes like StormFront. If the mainstream narrative wasn't "There are people denying holocaust and it's so bad we'll stop here" but "There are people denying holocaust and it's stupid because..." the idea would be much less appealing for impressionable teens. Ridicule is more effective than outrage.I think that people who kinda questioned the Holocaust but never really thought too much about it could certainly find the answers in that thread to get them to adopt white supremacist beliefs, especially if they're impressionable teens for whom WWII is a story from the past, not a war that happened in living memory.
That's another thing that should be present in the mainstream: nobody came out of it with clean hands.I know it was. The Allies aren't perfect liberators