Gross Kelly Ronahan - Vampire Munchie Who Destroyed Her Own Legs

[FarmVille]

Has she had any head injuries? Or any history of seizures or birth injury?

It’s impossible to know because the only information we have is from Kelly, the crazy woman who picked her legs off, and not a factual narrator

 

[Barbarella]

The only thing her family will feel when Kelly finally dies is relief. She is nothing but a burden to everyone and everything around her.

Relief, and guilt for feeling relieved. It’s human nature to go over a relationship where someone has died and think “what more could I have done? What if I’d done x differently?” But ultimately, it’s useless. There is nothing anybody can do if they don’t want to get help. I’m not sure Kelly understands on an intellectual level what she’s doing at this point, it’s just instinct.

There is a new drug on the east coast of US called tranq. Nobody can get heroin anymore, so they switched to fentynl and now it’s all mixed with tranq, a horse tranquilizer. It’s horrifying because it leaves necrotic sores on their bodies just like what Kelly did to herself. People are losing limbs and dying, and no opiate agonist works on it, so it’s a hellish, long withdrawal, with no meds to help. I saw a video with a guy whose hands looked just like Kelly’s legs, getting to the see-through point with fingers swollen like a balloon, and he’s still shooting this stuff up. One guy had his face chewed off like Gus in breaking bad, and they still use. (It creates sores even on parts of the body untouched by needles.) Whatever high Kelly gets is as addictive as this drug is and none will stop until death, and they’ll all leave grieving, guilty, questioning families behind.

 

[Breadbear]

Relief, and guilt for feeling relieved. It’s human nature to go over a relationship where someone has died and think “what more could I have done? What if I’d done x differently?” But ultimately, it’s useless. There is nothing anybody can do if they don’t want to get help. I’m not sure Kelly understands on an intellectual level what she’s doing at this point, it’s just instinct.

There is a new drug on the east coast of US called tranq. Nobody can get heroin anymore, so they switched to fentynl and now it’s all mixed with tranq, a horse tranquilizer. It’s horrifying because it leaves necrotic sores on their bodies just like what Kelly did to herself. People are losing limbs and dying, and no opiate agonist works on it, so it’s a hellish, long withdrawal, with no meds to help. I saw a video with a guy whose hands looked just like Kelly’s legs, getting to the see-through point with fingers swollen like a balloon, and he’s still shooting this stuff up. One guy had his face chewed off like Gus in breaking bad, and they still use. (It creates sores even on parts of the body untouched by needles.) Whatever high Kelly gets is as addictive as this drug is and none will stop until death, and they’ll all leave grieving, guilty, questioning families behind.

Krokodil 2.0, great.

 

[FarmVille]

Thanks, internet

 

[Pudgy Bear Claws]

I like this guy, he has a few channels.

 

[Iron Hamster]

I like this guy, he has a few channels.

Thanks for this. I like him too. I hadn't seen this one. Has to be rakin' it in.

 

[mushuumail]

I'm not the most educated on the Canadian health care system; does it cover dental? most places I know with free healthcare don't cover dental costs unless its an emergency, like you got your tooth knocked out in an accident or some shit.

My first thought was they probably give her dentures, but seeing just how gaunt her face has become, that's not happened. I've known several people with dentures over the years but they always had some teeth remaining that the denture anchored onto. If they hadn't, they had some sort of posts screwed in to keep things in place.

If there's 1 thing I learnt in my life, its that you don't take teeth pain and problems lightly. meanwhile Kelly is playing Croc Dentist with her own mouth

Covered if you are on welfare or disability or under a certain age (think child)

 

[Xarpho's Return]

You know the rules — never ask lich creatures why are they still alive, they get another 5 years for each question asked.

And lurk more, she got amputated already amputated stump, took out teeth and hair.

I checked back in this thread expecting just a torso and head. The teeth removal thing is just gross though and the hair makes Shoe's condition look mild.

At least the troon on Jerry Springer stopped at the legs.

 

[Oracular Slug]

I like this guy, he has a few channels.

That's the understatement of the year!

 

[Barbarella]

He gets a few minor things wrong about tranq though. According to the addicts, the high doesn’t last as long so they use more. (Dude said it was a longer high). But it’s so cheap it doesn’t matter. And they shoot right into those open wounds. Kelly ain’t got nothing on them.

Watch one of those Kensington channels-they show those poor zombies and some interview them. Most have awful sores and you even see them dead in the streets. It’s like nothing I’ve seen before (except on Walking Dead).

 

[Behavioral Sink]

-I heard a recent podcast that happened in the 80s-a nurse was supposedly stalked and abused. She had 90 incidents over a period of less than a decade including physical abuse, notes, damage to her house, weird phone calls, and several times she was attacked (once somebody stuck a knife through her hand to the floor) Black stockings were placed on her neck each time. There were many weird things that nobody ever saw. The notes were cut from magazines. Strangely, nothing happened when people were around. She lived with a cop for a year or so and it stopped, but it started up when he left. Eventually. She was found dead, bound with stockings. Her cause of death was a morphine OD.

Cindy James. Interesting that you bring it up-- she also lived in British Columbia, like Kelly.

I read one of the books, and obsessed about this case for a long time. It seems like she did it all to herself. But then her ex-husband was a well-connected psychiatrist. There was someone online who'd spun up a tale about his connection to another psychiatrist involved in the government's MKULTRA mind control experiments. (The experiments are a true story, not just a conspiracy theory.) Then something about a potential link to the serial killer Pickton, the biker gangs, Cindy witnessing them hiding dead bodies, etc. It got complicated, and totally out there. But it was all built on a foundation of verified facts.

Either way, BC breeds some fucked up people.

ETA quote from a reddit post comment:

Spoiler: More details

This is a great write up on her case. I’ve read 2 of the 3 books and found they seemed oddly sympathetic to Makepeace. I haven’t read her sisters book yet. I know I’m late to comment but I wanted to ask if you’ve ever looked into Dr. James Tyhurst? He was the head of the psychiatry department at UBC at the time Makepeace was in the psychology department and they were friends. Makepeace and Cindy visited Tyhurst by boat on his vacation property on Gabriola island. Previously, Tyhurst had worked under Dr Ewan Cameron at the Allan Memorial institute during the MK ultra experiments before moving to UBC. Tyhurst was later charged and convicted for torturing and sexually assaulting his patients. Crazy but true. There is a good book on Tyhurst called “Abuse of trust” I can’t help but see some similarities between the victims and types of torture involved. Not that I think Tyhurst was necessarily the perpetrator but maybe these doctors were involved in something more nefarious than has been exposed. There was a PI working for Cindy’s parents who believed that the murder Cindy remembered under hypnosis was actually the murder of Julia Klachan... another nurse. I know it sounds really bizarre, it was quite the rabbit hole I fell into.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrime/comments/of4bx7/comment/h73uvov/

 

[Barbarella]

That’s an angle of the story I hadn’t heard of. It’s a rabbit hole I’ll go down too as I found it interesting vanilla, and had no idea there were toppings. Dm me a book recommend if you have one. Thanks

 

[2525ABC]

I've been doing some reading Lesch Nyhan Syndrome can effect females VERY rarely since its X-linked and when it does they ususally only show some aspects of the disorder. It causes uncontrollable need to self harm, but its so rare in females there is not a symptomology for it for them.

Though unlikely it seems that even in females they have characteristics of cerebral palsy and mental retardation.

Late, but there's a good and very long article about Lesch Nyhan sufferers. TLDR they are horrifyingly aware from early childhood that their hands want to murder them and they ask their caregivers to place them in restraints. If a hand escapes it is liable to gouge an eye or cause a finger to be bitten off. It's serious nightmare fuel and the polar opposite of Kelly.

 

[GhoulTori]

Late, but there's a good and very long article about Lesch Nyhan sufferers. TLDR they are horrifyingly aware from early childhood that their hands want to murder them and they ask their caregivers to place them in restraints. If a hand escapes it is liable to gouge an eye or cause a finger to be bitten off. It's serious nightmare fuel and the polar opposite of Kelly.

.That was horrifying.

 

[Otterly]

Late, but there's a good and very long article about Lesch Nyhan sufferers. TLDR they are horrifyingly aware from early childhood that their hands want to murder them and they ask their caregivers to place them in restraints. If a hand escapes it is liable to gouge an eye or cause a finger to be bitten off. It's serious nightmare fuel and the polar opposite of Kelly.

That’s a really good article. It really puts a human face on the disease. There’s a guy king compound that could cure it - why has it never gone to trial?? We have billions for coof ahots and none to test that?
This stood out to me:
‘In some ways, Lesch-Nyhan syndrome looks like Parkinson’s disease reversed. ‘
Yeah it does. Inertia is a big thing in Parkinson’s, you can’t start a conscious movement.
There are tens of thousands of rare diseases, some have only 2-3 sufferers worldwide and lots cause really strange effects. This one is particularly awful.
I don’t think the overt form is what Kelly has. She has temporal control over what she’s doing, even if she has an uncontrollable compulsion to do it. BUT you never know if there’s a pathway somewhere wired up that overlaps with what’s happening in LN patients.

 

[Flourishing Pinecone ❧]

Late, but there's a good and very long article about Lesch Nyhan sufferers. TLDR they are horrifyingly aware from early childhood that their hands want to murder them and they ask their caregivers to place them in restraints. If a hand escapes it is liable to gouge an eye or cause a finger to be bitten off. It's serious nightmare fuel and the polar opposite of Kelly.

That was so interesting! The way they lash out and self sabotage gives a lot of food for thought with personality disorders/attachment disorders.

I'm not a brain person by any means, so I'm confused as to why the deep brain stimulation works because it seems like it's almost more Huntington's-esque if it's the opposite of Parkinson's? but there doesn't seems to be chorea. but there's an absence of dopamine, so why aren't they stiff like Parkinson's or someone with too much typical antipsychotics on board?
maybe a bit of Alien Hand Syndrome thrown in?

the brain is weird, man.

 

[Otterly]

but there's an absence of dopamine, so why aren't they stiff like Parkinson's or someone with too much typical antipsychotics on board?

I suspect it’s the initiation of movement that’s an issue in Parkinson’s. You see patients frozen unable to reach for a book or spoon but if you can get them dancing or playing music or doing a long practised action with muscle memory the movement has more flow. It’s partly the initiation of that conscious willed movement where the block is.
. The opposite is LN behaviour - being unable to stop the movement or action.
Imagine if all those weird intrusive thoughts people get were acted on with no ability to stop? Ever stood on a high ledge and wondered what it’s like to jump? Or held a knife and wondered what happens if… now imagine any thought like that is compulsively acted upon. It must be a living nightmare.
What Kelly has is the compulsion, but control short term. She can wait until everyone’s out the room but she must pick and damage and destroy. That’s fairly nightmarish too.

 

[2525ABC]

That was so interesting! The way they lash out and self sabotage gives a lot of food for thought with personality disorders/attachment disorders.

I'm not a brain person by any means, so I'm confused as to why the deep brain stimulation works because it seems like it's almost more Huntington's-esque if it's the opposite of Parkinson's? but there doesn't seems to be chorea. but there's an absence of dopamine, so why aren't they stiff like Parkinson's or someone with too much typical antipsychotics on board?
maybe a bit of Alien Hand Syndrome thrown in?

the brain is weird, man.

I don't want to spam the thread with stuff more interesting than Kelly's scabs because at this stage that's basically everything but this is another New Yorker banger called "The Itch".
On topic justification: there's a lot of sperg fuel on the neurological and chemical basis for itching picking and scratching and the star patient is a woman who LITERALLY SCRATCHED THROUGH HER SKULL AND INTO HER BRAIN.

If you hit paywall just open in an incognito tab.

 

[Flourishing Pinecone ❧]

I suspect it’s the initiation of movement that’s an issue in Parkinson’s. You see patients frozen unable to reach for a book or spoon but if you can get them dancing or playing music or doing a long practised action with muscle memory the movement has more flow.

oh yes I guess what I mean is, both seem to be troubled by low dopamine (hence why the deep brain stimulation works, and I assume MDMA would too) but I wonder why the LN have no trouble initiating movement, so much that they cannot stop a movement from being initiated. the children are noted to have spacticity, I wonder if there is also an element rigidity? (like the cogwheeling of Parkinson's)
they obviously don't have the flat affect of Parkinson's but do have speech issues.

 

[Spunt]

Late, but there's a good and very long article about Lesch Nyhan sufferers. TLDR they are horrifyingly aware from early childhood that their hands want to murder them and they ask their caregivers to place them in restraints. If a hand escapes it is liable to gouge an eye or cause a finger to be bitten off. It's serious nightmare fuel and the polar opposite of Kelly.

We think in our hubris that we have devised the most horrifying and agonising tortures that could possibly be inflicted on our fellow man, but even our most sadistic and psychopathic methods of inflicting suffering on each other pale in significance to what our own bodies are capable of doing to themselves.