Race superiority is fucking dumb

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Where on the doll did the big black man touch you?

How butthurt are niggers that they invented nothing, discovered nothing, did nothing, accomplished nothing.

 

[WelperHelper99]

To solve a problem you must first admit that which is true. By denying the truth you give leverage to false "solutions" instead of real ones, and some will not be pleasant. the only way what I say can wedge people apart is if they only care about sweet tidings and sugar coated claims instead of reality, and in that facade to solve things they will fail and repeat their failures like our society has done for the last how many years.

In 2000, I was at a Chicago McDonalds where a black woman told me she didn't like my kind sitting on the side of the counter while she was ok with a black kid sitting on one. Shit was even fucked then it just wasn't so transparent, and I lived in black neighborhoods prior to that year and know even then it wasn't true. It's just back then people blinded themselves to a larger white majority now that they aren't so much a majority then half-the population now the reality is setting in.

And weather you like it or not, until people admit the honest truth no solution will come just more tragedy, hate, and possibly the reverse of a solution and a destruction of any inroads. Those of us warning of such shit will get the same treatment as always, blame for thsoe not facing the reality and coping with it or being cognitive dissonant.

The problem is age is catching up with you. What you saw and what I saw were very different. Your generation is mostly spent. The Zoomers are just beginning to rise. I do see a future, but it's going to take a steady hand to get there.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

The problem is age is catching up with you. What you saw and what I saw were very different. Your generation is mostly spent. The Zoomers are just beginning to rise. I do see a future, but it's going to take a steady hand to get there.

Even before I was born my guy: 1970's was when the black community started dishing out love to the Black Panthers organization. Where do you think BLM came from? Where do you think BP came from?

People said the same thing about the 2000's, racism was almost dead when it wasn't. The same delusion will carry people to their graves onward. Because as I said, until you face the truth no solution will ever happen. You can push for it no doubt, but that push won't succeed, and that's not a blackpill or a doom pill it's a reality pill.

Edit: Hell where does the hatred for albinos in the black community come from, that's an old cultural thing.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Edit: Hell where does the hatred for albinos in the black community come from, that's an old cultural thing.

I think albinism is just unnerving to many cultures in general if you start looking at myths. Blacks just carry on the trend. Pale skin and red eyes man.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

I think albinism is just unnerving to many cultures in general if you start looking at myths. Blacks just carry on the trend. Pale skin and red eyes man.

My point more was that it comes from Africa specifically and most of them are boiled or have their limbs cut off and even in America I've heard horror tales of albino children getting massacred by their neighbors in black neighborhoods.

My deep concern is who is to say a decent sizeo f the black population don't consider normal white people to be akin to albinos (minus silver hair and red eyes) in their perception on the concept. How many African descendant people might also believe in Yakub in a literal sense and applying their actions based on that belief?

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Genocide. My favorite sperging. Unless you're putting warheads on foreheads, it ain't. Demographic shift sure. But total white death? No. All the whites are still here. And what is wrong with other races fucking? Seriously, we all agree that a mutt breed dog is far tougher than a purebred, why not humies?

I like you, Mormon Welder dude, but your takes on race are like Stan's, where you hang out in predominantly white areas and the few black people are culturally like white people, and feel you need to lecture people on how racist they are.

Stick with dunking on transit bugmen.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I like you, Mormon Welder dude, but your takes on race are like Stan's, where you hang out in predominantly white areas and the few black people are culturally like white people, and feel you need to lecture people on how racist they are.

Stick with dunking on transit bugmen.

I feel ya man, I just like having the debate, a little trolling if you will. Thought I'd pay my abandoned child of a thread a vist today, that's all. And I haven't been in white ville my whole life. Illinois was plenty black.

 

[Fenrir Ratatoskr]

I think the essence of the pushback in this thread is not really about race, but about racial culture. I personally don't buy the "race = subspecies" meme. I see the logic on paper, but IMO the source of consciousness and its interaction with biology is too unclear to say for certain that specific behaviors can be reproducibly traced back to specific physical traits. however, certain physical traits and certain behaviors are undeniably linked, for example, every American is familiar with the particular way a lot of black people act and talk, variously referred to in different eras as "jive" or "ebonics". obviously this isn't the result of any particular element of physiology, like mouth shape or skeletal features etc., but a learned behavior, linked to an identity, which is linked to a physical trait. this is the cultural idea of "blackness" as in, the characteristics a black person is expected to exhibit (annoying libs love to sperg about this shit). this kind of idea is powerful enough that it spreads autonomously and infects nearly every member of the society. this is why black people exhibit a lot of unified cultural traits across significant culture centers with strong local identities. this is also why race has a mixed connotation of both physical and cultural traits. when you say "black", you're referring to both the physical trait - skin color - and the cultural traits.

send in those puzzle pieces, this post ended up even more autistic than usual. tl;dr: biological race does not conclusively determine behavior, but there's an undeniable link between culture and race.

I agree.
Most of what people hate is the Southern redneck culture the black people in the US south adopted and spread.

This is from Thomas Sowell's "Black Rednecks, White Liberals."
It's a good read, along with his trilogy: "Race and Culture", "Migrations and Cultures", and "Conquest and Cultures". Lots of info on race, culture, and history.

 

[SIMIΔN]

Mixed race humans have more genetic abnormalities, more insecurities, and that's without getting into backups of medical health issues

The insecurities come from culture, not genes.
The only extra caution a crossracial couple need to consider is tissue donation, as neither parent would be a close tissue match to their child. So either freeze their stem cells or have more than one child.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

The insecurities come from culture, not genes.
The only extra caution a crossracial couple need to consider is tissue donation, as neither parent would be a close tissue match to their child. So either freeze their stem cells or have more than one child.

But what culture are mixed race people adopting though? It's not like "White" culture has an anti-mix race sentiment, and although certain races do, if they're accepted why would they still feel effected by people not in their good graces? I guess it would be the other races since whites have basically submitted their cultures to opposing/foreign groups. So maybe that is a point of it.

Also when I say genes, I'm trying to loosely connect race-->Culture. (or Genes to race therefore culture)

 

[quackrock]

I agree.
Most of what people hate is the Southern redneck culture the black people in the US south adopted and spread.

This is from Thomas Sowell's "Black Rednecks, White Liberals."
It's a good read, along with his trilogy: "Race and Culture", "Migrations and Cultures", and "Conquest and Cultures". Lots of info on race, culture, and history.

Nurture is nature. You can't expect great things from a population whose mean IQ is 85, a full standard deviation below the US white average of 100. The validity and predictive power of IQ is the most strongly-confirmed result in all of social science. Lower IQ correlates decisively with criminality, income, professional incompetency, and poorer life outcomes. The mean US black and sub-Saharan African IQ(s) are by now extremely well-studied and established.

Here's the kicker: IQ is mostly (~50-80%) heritable, with a genetically-determined ceiling and environmentally-determined floor. As of 2023 the Flynn Effect has run its course and we're unlikely to see more gains from improved access to nutrition, or education. We've goosed black IQ as much as we can short of aggressive eugenic selection. This is as good as it's ever going to get. And it will only get worse; all sort of dysgenic effects now predominate like smart blacks marrying outside their race, poor blacks having more kids sooner, and heroic emergency medicine saving violent thugs from the consequences of their own idiotic actions.

We actually know some of the specific genes which predispose blacks to lower IQ as well as increased violence and aggression. The two-repeat allele for monoamine oxidase-A, aka MAOA 2R*, strongly predisposes carriers towards impulsive violence and antisocial activity. Carrying MAOA 2R basically confers a mild form of Brunner Syndrome, where the MAOA enzyme— responsible for breaking down excess neurotransmitters in the brain— becomes absent or disrupted. This can and does lead to aggression, hypersexuality, and impulsive behavior. Conversely, excess MAOA activity (reducing the amount of available neurotransmitters) has been linked with major depressive disorder. Practially zero Asians and 0.1%, or 1 in 1000 Caucasian males carry MAOA 2R. Fully 5%, or 1 in 20 black males carry this gene.

But that's not the only gene at work. We can't just fix the whole problem with some clever application of CRISPR or mRNA. A recent landmark NIH study found IQ is both heritable and genetically multi-causal. Many different genes independently contribute to IQ, each with its own small effect that together add up to the gaps we have observed. The mean IQ of mixed-race black and white offspring was smack in the middle of each parent group's averages. Ditto for mixed-race black and Hispanic children, or white and Asian, and so on. We don't know all or most of the specific genes are involved. (Once we do, rich people will start having genius designer babies and shit will get weird.)

The research in this area is extensive and dispositive. It can be found on PubMed, official government websites and in reputable academic journals. Wikipedia sometimes has good write-ups but they're always getting scrubbed by political commissars. Steve Sailer, Cremieux, the Monitoring Bias guy, and other right-wing commenters often discuss this on Twitter with links to sources. Elon Musk has replied to a few of their tweets. Smart people paying attention are increasingly aware of this reality. Even normie Mossad agent Lex Fridman has had guests on who talked about race and IQ honestly and accurately.

You cannot expect to build Japan, Singapore, or a Nordic social democracy with 85-IQ black Africans. You cannot expect to rebuild the great cities of America's Rust Belt while managing significant urban black populations. Black people are not, on average, physically or mentally capable of building and maintaining complex high-trust societies. The best we can do is contain them and keep them comfortable.

It's bleak. James Watson was right, and The Bell Curve remains undefeated.

*MAOA 2R is often conflated with MAOA 3R, with either or both sometimes referred to as the "warrior gene." The effect of MAOA 3R on behavior is smaller and more conditional on childhood trauma. A good rundown of the difference can be found here.

 

[RichardMongler]

Most of what people hate is the Southern redneck culture the black people in the US south adopted and spread.

Lord, do people love this line. I don't think Ulster Scot culture created this. It seems to be characteristic of people descent from a certain race native to the dark continent:

 

[Scout Trooper]

Lord, do people love this line. I don't think Ulster Scot culture created this. It seems to be characteristic of people descent from a certain race native to the dark continent:
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Christ, niggers are a scourge. A fucking pestilence.

 

[Begemot]

Christ, niggers are a scourge. A fucking pestilence.

We are vengeful Gods, cumskin. We are rage and melanin comingled. We are the stars. We are hope.

 

[I'm Retarded?]

Nurture is nature.

well, shit, this post is one of the first convincing arguments on the matter I've seen. my one question is this: this line of reasoning is staked very heavily on the notion that IQ is an accurate and replicable metric. what kind of IQ is being referred to here? what exactly does it measure, how is it tested, and what are its limitations?

 

[quackrock]

well, shit, this post is one of the first convincing arguments on the matter I've seen. my one question is this: this line of reasoning is staked very heavily on the notion that IQ is an accurate and replicable metric. what kind of IQ is being referred to here? what exactly does it measure, how is it tested, and what are its limitations?

IQ tests measure what scientists call the g factor, or general mental ability. "General mental ability" includes things like short-term memory, spatial reasoning ability, quantitative ability, and verbal and non-verbal comprehension. It's measured through an array of different cognitive tests like Raven's Progressive Matrices, the Naglieri Nonverbal Ability Test, the Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children, the Cognitive Abilities Test, or even the SAT. Historically, more tests were used which had local cultural biases (but still measured g with high accuracy, since the ability apply cultural knowledge is g-dependent). Today, standardized IQ testing is strongly g-loaded and minimally dependent on cultural context.

Actual IQ tests are graded on a curve. You can't compare two IQ scores directly unless they were measured with the same cognitive tests and graded on the same curve. Bear this mind when you hear stuff like, "Einstein had an IQ of X but Bob just scored X+Y!" If Einstein didn't take the same tests as Bob and have his scores graded on the same curve, this means very little. We know about racial differences in IQ because very large numbers of white, black, Asian, Jewish, and Hispanic people have taken the exact same cognitive tests.

IQ is strongly predictive of workplace performance, criminality, income, cooperativeness, and academic achievement. People with higher IQ perform better on jobs that require learning and recalling relevant information, reasoning and applying common sense, and reacting swiftly in the face of unexpected problems. Employers in the US used to offer IQ tests as alternatives to formal education requirements. In Griggs vs. Duke Power Co. the Supreme Court established that this was illegal expressly because it discriminated against blacks, who under-performed compared to whites on mental aptitude tests. Take a minute to reflect on the anti-human evil of this decision:

On July 2, 1965, the day the Civil Rights Act of 1964 took effect, Duke Power added two employment tests, which would allow employees without high-school diplomas to transfer to higher-paying departments. The Bennett Mechanical Comprehension Test was a test of mechanical aptitude, and the Wonderlic Cognitive Ability Test was an IQ test measuring general intelligence.

Whites were almost ten times more likely than blacks to meet these new employment and transfer requirements. According to the 1960 Census, while 34% of white males in North Carolina had high-school diplomas, only 18% of blacks did. The disparities of aptitude tests were far greater; with the cutoffs set at the median for high-school graduates, 58% of whites passed, compared to 6% of blacks.

It's true that we don't understand the precise chemical dances in the brain that give rise to intelligence. We also don't understand, below a certain layer of abstraction, the precise physical interactions that give rise to electromagnetism. Despite this we can still measure magnetic field strength, harness electric power, and build electronic computers like the one you're using now. Likewise we can measure g, identity behaviors and strategies that raise or lower g, identify genes and inherited traits that correlate strongly with differences in g, and make decisions based on this knowledge without totally understanding at a fundamental level how human intelligence works.

Here's a good five minute summary of g and IQ testing beginning at 1:30 (if you have time, listen to the whole episode):

Wikipedia's section on human intelligence is a patchwork of good information and politicized lies. I'd stick to what the textbooks and high-quality research (like that NIH study on adolescent brain development) actually say, rather than what shut-in communist Wikipedians think they should be allowed to say.

 

[I'm Retarded?]

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that's some strong food for thought. another notion I'd like to throw into the discussion here is the African slave trade as a highly dysgenic selection event. since a lot of the slave population were losers of various conflicts on the African continent that were sold off for profit, the ancestors of the modern American black population were at least mostly some of the dumbest motherfuckers of their cultural origin. this would at least partially explain the persistently lower g among blacks. this is all armchair analysis here, but it seems to me that while imperfect, warfare does have a potential winnowing effect since the factors of victory include things like the ability to procure, develop, and distribute resources, political and military organization, tactical resourcefulness, technological development, etc.

 

[Dire Dire Cocks]

Once you realize that race is so much deeper than skin color, everything you think you know about race gets destroyed.

 

[quackrock]

that's some strong food for thought. another notion I'd like to throw into the discussion here is the African slave trade as a highly dysgenic selection event. since a lot of the slave population were losers of various conflicts on the African continent that were sold off for profit, the ancestors of the modern American black population were at least mostly some of the dumbest motherfuckers of their cultural origin. this would at least partially explain the persistently lower g among blacks. this is all armchair analysis here, but it seems to me that while imperfect, warfare does have a potential winnowing effect since the factors of victory include things like the ability to procure, develop, and distribute resources, political and military organization, tactical resourcefulness, technological development, etc.

Probably so. At the same time, newly-arrived black Africans, who we might assume are from the cognitive elite of their countries of origin, consistently test at ~93 IQ relative to a 100 point US white average. For example:

https://nitter.net/Steve_Sailer/status/1665230267542384642

How much of this is due to test-takers' childhood malnutrition or early educational deficiencies in Africa? Who knows. Specific immigrant groups like the Igbo also tend to out-perform other African groups. Still not great scores compared to new arrivals from ex. China or India, who outperform white averages on measures of both IQ and income.

On a side note, that NIH ABCD study shows black children mature faster intellectually but plateau earlier versus Asians and whites. Make of this what you will. Easy to speculate about evolutionary strategies in dangerous predator-filled environments like West Africa, where parents might not be around to raise kids for very long. These strategies no longer make sense in safe resource-abundant environments like North America.

We also know "education raises IQ" only really applies to early reading, writing, and arithmetic. James Flynn conceded this himself in a debate with Charles Murray, author of "The Bell Curve" (in which Flynn gets cordially stomped IMO):

Once you realize that race is so much deeper than skin color, everything you think you know about race gets destroyed.

Indeed. Nor is it merely a "social construction:"

https://nitter.net/PaoloShirasi/status/1704540906886443126

By the way, did you know 1/4 of US blacks would be deemed mentally unfit for criminal trial under existing US case law if it were consistently applied? Now you know.

https://nitter.net/monitoringbias/status/1702687498328068367

 

[NevskyProspekt]

If the average nigger weren't so stupid, violent and totally lacking in impulse control, they wouldn't cause so much grief for every demographic, including for niggers themselves. And people would like them more.

But the sad reality is, that if you add niggers to a neighbourhood or society, everything starts to resemble Detroit. And if you add even more, it becomes Zimbabwe.

Botswana, Namibia, Rwanda, Kenya, Ghana and Zambia are faring pretty well, all things considered. There are numerous countries that show it is possible to have a functional and stable black-majority state. It's just that the U.S. ended up with a dysgenically-selected population that on average, is quite shitty on a contemporary cultural level. I think Americans (and to a certain extent Europeans) tend to view their domestic black population as a monolithic stand-in for the global black population. Yeah, there are many dysfunctional black majority areas, but competent ones can and do exist. Botswana ranks better than several European countries when it comes to stability and corruption, for example.