Liz Fong-Jones / Elliot William Fong / @lizthegrey - 'Consent accident' enjoyer, ex-Google employee, nepotistic sex pest, Robert Z'Dar look-alike who wants authority over the Internet

Couple of observations:
Lorelei is obsessed with his “cold open DMs” - firstly to Liz to involve himself in the first place, and then to get access to the secret tranny Signal group. He’s boasted about that several times, and it must be what he thinks of as his superpower when it comes to persuading ISPs to bend to his will, when what’s really doing the trick is the threat of cancellation - implied blackmail.

I suspect he’s also an absolute raging sex pest in peoples’ DMs, “cold open” is PUA talk isn’t it?
This post's a couple days old but it caught my eye. That particular usage of "cold/warm" also shows up in sales lingo – if you're a landscaping company or something, "cold prospects" are ones where you just drop flyers in mailboxes, and "warm" ones are when a local business finds you by googling "landscapers near me". Or something like that. Dunno which came first, lots of PUAs draw comparisons between their tactics and sales. While PhilKat is using the a PUA-like phrasing, he might not have learned it from the PUA sphere. But he probably did. It's not worth giving these people the benefit of the doubt.

That does raise the very real possibility that Phil Sisson aka Katherine Lorelei was involved in PUA. It could explain some stuff; maybe ties in with the ex-wife he claims was abusive? I'll do some searching later, starting with his tweets.
 
This post's a couple days old but it caught my eye. That particular usage of "cold/warm" also shows up in sales lingo – if you're a landscaping company or something, "cold prospects" are ones where you just drop flyers in mailboxes, and "warm" ones are when a local business finds you by googling "landscapers near me". Or something like that. Dunno which came first, lots of PUAs draw comparisons between their tactics and sales. While PhilKat is using the a PUA-like phrasing, he might not have learned it from the PUA sphere. But he probably did. It's not worth giving these people the benefit of the doubt.

That does raise the very real possibility that Phil Sisson aka Katherine Lorelei was involved in PUA. It could explain some stuff; maybe ties in with the ex-wife he claims was abusive? I'll do some searching later, starting with his tweets.
Phil screams "failed salesman" at me with his pushiness and self-aggrandizement, but it could be both things. So-called Pick Up Artists and AGP Troons share an awful lot of sentiments towards women - particularly being owed sex by them - so it's not much of a leap to go from one to the other.
 
This post's a couple days old but it caught my eye. That particular usage of "cold/warm" also shows up in sales lingo – if you're a landscaping company or something, "cold prospects" are ones where you just drop flyers in mailboxes, and "warm" ones are when a local business finds you by googling "landscapers near me". Or something like that. Dunno which came first, lots of PUAs draw comparisons between their tactics and sales. While PhilKat is using the a PUA-like phrasing, he might not have learned it from the PUA sphere. But he probably did. It's not worth giving these people the benefit of the doubt.

That does raise the very real possibility that Phil Sisson aka Katherine Lorelei was involved in PUA. It could explain some stuff; maybe ties in with the ex-wife he claims was abusive? I'll do some searching later, starting with his tweets.


I personally associate cold/warm in that context with sales, but it makes sense that is how PUA would talk about things in their approach.

High pressure commission only Salesmen and PUA have a similar mentality and method.

Getting the yes, moving from prospect to prospect until they hit a result, peacocking, salesmen wear flash suits and drive expensive cars to project success , PAU wear similar expensive eye catching things deliberately to attract attention.

Phil claims he is autistic and that is why he had his computer solution business, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried sales at some point.
He probably was bad at it, being an autist.
Even if it requires a single mindedness and refusal to hear no, it still requires a kind of confident charm which autists frequently lack.

However, it does provide a step by step path to results, so I can completely see an autist internalizing it as a method for success.

So if he wasn’t a failed PUA, he probably was a failed door knocking Salesman, autistically barging into houses and frightening leads.
 
Phil screams "failed salesman" at me with his pushiness and self-aggrandizement, but it could be both things. So-called Pick Up Artists and AGP Troons share an awful lot of sentiments towards women - particularly being owed sex by them - so it's not much of a leap to go from one to the other.
I love that picture of him where he somehow combines being a laughable joke of a man in a dress with completely unwarranted smugness written all over his fat face.
 
Elliot needs veterinary help, as opposed to mental help.

Its perhaps time he goes to live in a farm upstate.

Fong enjoying himself before his owner takes him for "one last ride" to the vet:
 

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Phil screams "failed salesman" at me with his pushiness and self-aggrandizement, but it could be both things. So-called Pick Up Artists and AGP Troons share an awful lot of sentiments towards women - particularly being owed sex by them - so it's not much of a leap to go from one to the other.

This is all probably fine…

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Nigger you know the enemy so well you flashed yourself as the biggest FOREIGN BODY on our radar instead of shutting up till we lost interest and you know yourself so well you destroyed your eyes trying to pretend to be a woman

And you left yourself no golden bridge to retreat across.because you amputated your genitals

What are you talking about sun tzue for?
 
lol no, of course not. They're going to go after Ovarit and Mumsnet. The OnA forums are scary.
I don't know anything about Ovarit, but I think they will have a fight on their hands with Mumsnet.
I wouldn't be surprised if the owners of Ovarit or Mumsnet reach out to Null for help should they end up being attacked by troons like KF has.

KF gets regular mentions on Ovarit; the consensus being that chud banter is a small price to pay for protection against the troon menace and that KF is unironically one of the Internet's few remaining safe spaces for women.
This is all probably fine…

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That's Russell Greer levels of lunacy right there.
 
Phil screams "failed salesman" at me with his pushiness and self-aggrandizement, but it could be both things. So-called Pick Up Artists and AGP Troons share an awful lot of sentiments towards women - particularly being owed sex by them - so it's not much of a leap to go from one to the other.
I wonder how prevalent autism is in the PUA sphere. It feels to me like both PUAs and troons have these rigid ideas about how men and women work that bear no resemblance to reality. And of course, both groups can’t get laid and turn to desperate measures.
 
Nigger you know the enemy so well you flashed yourself as the biggest FOREIGN BODY on our radar instead of shutting up till we lost interest and you know yourself so well you destroyed your eyes trying to pretend to be a woman

And you left yourself no golden bridge to retreat across.because you amputated your genitals

What are you talking about sun tzue for?
To keep the delusion of being inteligent and not a failure at life?
 
They saw your DM, they don't care or know who the fuck you are.

I only recognize three of these usernames but they're all troons so I assume the other two are also.
Can you imagine what those DMs say?

"Hey sister girlie! I'm a very important Trans Activist heroin (sic) Nazi fighter POC and I was wondering if you've taken a moment to consider posting about how cool I am and how I'm saving trannies everywhere. Remember! Silence is violence!"
 
These fucking people. If anyone with actual critical thinking skills actually researched this site (I’m talking to you, every single journalist ever) you’d see that we don‘t just pick random people off the street and create threads on them. There are a lot of “subjects“ on this site that are completely unaware that we are even discussing them.

That’s right. These people haven’t been harassed, targeted, or anything else. Just discussed.

Seems like the only ones that make up the whole OMG NAZI!!!11! thing are people with questionable histories that have information that has been found through freely available public information.

Of course, nobody will actually report that, lest the troons threaten to contact everyone the reporter has ever met to ask if they know that the reporter is a Nazi.
 
If Null can prove Elliot Fong used Honeycomb resources(employees, contacts, time) in the campaign, he can theoretically bring Honeycomb into the civil suit.
Given someone has a history of using their Google email address for certain activities...

You see, it's funny because he's a troon with a dialator, but he's also trying to draw out this whole battle and use it as a substitute for sexual gratification, in the same way that he uses BDSM and prolonged bouts of sexual coercion. That will be his ultimate downfall.
You'd think that they would at least attempt to use the legal system given that the entire operations of the forum are public, instead of resorting to gayops and girltalks, It's not like they don't have the financial backing either, but we've all seen how the legal fund to sue the police for misgendering went.
 
I wonder how prevalent autism is in the PUA sphere. It feels to me like both PUAs and troons have these rigid ideas about how men and women work that bear no resemblance to reality. And of course, both groups can’t get laid and turn to desperate measures.
I just wanted an excuse to say that I recently watched the second season of the Pickup Artist from VH1 (circa 2010), and not only was it extremely autistic, it was so cringe that I could not watch more than one episode in a sitting. However, it's also a hilarious product of its time and 100% worth the $1.99/episode. Some of my favorite terms were "DHV" (demonstrate higher value), "target" (woman), and "kino escalation" (gradually escalating physical touch). As in, "If Phil wanted to DHV to his targets, he would get his mouth fixed. Otherwise, he has no hope of kino escalation"
 
I just wanted an excuse to say that I recently watched the second season of the Pickup Artist from VH1 (circa 2010), and not only was it extremely autistic, it was so cringe that I could not watch more than one episode in a sitting. However, it's also a hilarious product of its time and 100% worth the $1.99/episode. Some of my favorite terms were "DHV" (demonstrate higher value), "target" (woman), and "kino escalation" (gradually escalating physical touch). As in, "If Phil wanted to DHV to his targets, he would get his mouth fixed. Otherwise, he has no hope of kino escalation"

I wonder how many Troons will turn out to be men who unsurprisingly failed at pick up artistry, so trooned out thinking that becoming a lesbian was a hack?
 
There should be a paper trail a mile long. Screenshotted emails. Recorded phone calls. Videos. Police reports. Even screenshots of this forum, with us congratulating each other on another successful tranny murder. Nobody can produce a single shred of evidence demonstrating that the Farms has done a damn thing other than laugh.
In the last year or more of Ding Dong and that fat guy who moved to Ireland bitching about how horrible this website is, I have yet to see anyone produce a single image of something actually posted on the Farms, at least when it comes to news articles and their gay little blogs. Why is that? Because they don't give a fuck what we say on this website, the only content they find objectionable is the shit that they said publicly that they no longer have the authority to delete.

Nobody put on a fat suit and jammed a sock down their throat to impersonate Keffals and say all that dumb shit, and Kiwi Farms didn't break into Ching-Chong's house and post the rape admission from his PC. For as much as these people like to beat the "freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences" drum, they sure have dedicated a lot of time to salting a forum that does nothing more than host information they freely surrendered themselves. And why is that? Because they can't live up to the level of scrutiny that they expect everyone else to hold up to. NOBODY can. Every time they strongarm and threaten someone into deplatforming this website because we're all such meanie meanie poopheads, they dig the grave they're all going to need to lie in a little bit deeper when it's discovered they also say dumb shit on the internet.
 
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