Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

@LORD IMPERATOR

George elevated Filoni, signed off on his shit, and that includes fucking Dathomir. People were mean because he made some crummy films. Standing here, watching as the little weasel he empowered, in part because Dave flattered his ego, I don't care that people like RLM went overboard and making fun of how bad the dialogue was in Phantom Menace or how bloated the plot was.

The state of Star Wars is the result of George and this shows that because he's the author of allot of this. He let Dave run, signed his shit, put Kathleen Kennedy in charge. This show is just to me the end of Lucas apology. This was BAAAADDDD!!!
 
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jspit2.0 said:
@LORD IMPERATOR

George elevated Filoni, signed off on his shit, and that includes fucking Dathomir. People were mean because he made some crummy films. Standing here, watching as the little weasel he empowered, in part because Dave flattered his ego, I don't care that people like RLM went overboard and making fun of how bad the dialogue was in Phantom Menace or how bloated the plot was.

The state of Star Wars is the result of George and this shows that because he's the author of allot of this. He let Dave run, signed his shit, put Kathleen Kennedy in charge. This show is just to me the end of Lucas apology. This was BAAAADDDD!!!
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Disney Star Wars exists BECAUSE morons like you kept shitting on Lucas. Filoni was just one of many people under Lucas making stuff. James Luceno was still writing books; Drew Karpyshyn made the SWTOR MMO.

Not to mention that if Lucas was still around, AHSOKA WOULD HAVE DIED IN TCW. That was his one wish for Ahsoka, and the one condition he made for creating her to Filoni. So no, you don't get to make that "WAAH LUCAS IS TO BLAME FOR THE AHSOKA SHOW!" argument. Lucas wanted Ahsoka to be DEAD before the Clone Wars ended. You wouldn't have an Ahsoka show in the first place, because Lucas would've killed off Ahsoka in TCW. Ahsoka only got to live because Lucas left the building and Filoni didn't want her to die.

If Lucas was still around, Filoni's worst instincts would've been kept in check. And given how Lucas kept certain parts of the EU canon, you might've gotten a New Jedi Order show with Luke Skywalker instead of Ahsoka. Especially since Luke IS his flagship character.

Damn, man, at least get your facts straight. If Lucas was still in charge, Ahsoka wouldn't be around after EPIII at all.

People like you are literally to blame for Disney Star Wars even existing. All that bitching and moaning at Lucas is what got him to sell to Disney in the first place. Disney SW only gave Filoni the keys to the kingdom because they shat the bed with the Sequels and they made Filoni the new head to appease the TCW fans. Whiny little shits like you show why Lucas sold the keys to his kingdom to Disney, since you still can't stop blaming him for stupid shit.
 
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I'm fairly sure George just wanted to do something else for a change and cashed out while he still could. He had a point that he was getting old and wanted to make more non-SW stuff for family and friends. He also stated well before the disney buyout and the prequels that it was originally his vision for Lucasarts.
 
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Polyraptor said:
I'm fairly sure George just wanted to do something else for a change and cashed out while he still could. He had a point that he was getting old and wanted to make more non-SW stuff for family and friends. He also stated well before the disney buyout and the prequels that it was originally his vision for Lucasarts.
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Lucas said that he sold Lucasfilm because people kept telling him that he was a horrible director. He was already making non-SW stuff while still leading Lucasfilm; (Crystal Skull, Howard the Duck, Red Tails) the SW stuff was basically on autopilot because Filoni and the EU authors were running it in his stead. But if they had any ideas that went against his wishes, like say, Ahsoka surviving past the Clone Wars, or an evil Obi-Wan clone, he'd squash that shit immediately.
 
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LORD IMPERATOR said:
To be fair, even EU Thrawn did a few bone-headed things. Working with Joruus C'baoth and trusting a Nohgri Vader cult for starters; especially since the former can easily mind-wipe his men and the latter aren't fully loyal to him, especially when Vader's kids work for the opposing team. The least Thrawn could've done is invite Lumiya instead (she was already established in the early Marvel SW comics) and treat the Nohgri with full respect instead of lording over them as if they were peons.

I can imagine a scenario where Thrawn successfully takes control of the galaxy and becomes Emperor, he wanders the old Imperial Palace wearing a magnificent silk robe while gaining praise from Imperial Admirals and Moffs who come to pay him tribute, then all of a sudden, his own Stormtroopers and the Nohgri Order 66 him and his inner court; the former got their minds "redirected" by C'baoth and the latter got a messege from one of Vader's kids to kill him.
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To be fair to my boy Legends Thrawn, Vader personally commanded the Noghri to follow Thrawn so I buy him believing in their absolute loyalty. The Noghri betrayal was 2 things Leia showing up as the lords daughter (Matriarchal society gives her an edge) and her proving the Empire wasn't cleaning Honoghr's biosphere but actively prolonging the devastation. Thrawn therefore didn't know that Luke and Leia were Vader's children, therefore he couldn't have predicted what came next. If he had known, or learned, he would've probably just glassed Honoghr. This is because Zahn was smart enough to remember that everyone in the galaxy didn't watch Return of the Jedi like we did. I mean Luke and Mara's entire subplot hinges on this (lack of) knowledge.
Fully agree about Joruus though, Pellaeon even warned him multiple times over the books that the deranged clone was growing more and more unstable. Even if Thrawn won the Battle of Bilbringi he would've had to turn around and lay siege to Mount Tantiss because of Joruus' antics there.
In regards to Lumiya, I believe she was still faking being dead at the time so, Thrawn probably just didn't know to give her a ring.
 
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wholetthegodsout said:
Really makes it seem like we are spinning tires
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These shows spend around three quarters of their runtime setting up a potentially interesting premise, and then doing absolutely fuck all with it. For as much as I dislike Andor, Gilroy actually puts the effort into writing a story with events that naturally flow into each other and not filling up runtime with two and a half meaningless action sepieces every episode.
Iapetus said:
Where did Ezra and Thrawn go?
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They went to space middle earth where Filoni can plagiarise Tolkien to his hearts content without affecting any of the stuff that people actually like.
 
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LORD IMPERATOR said:
Lucas said that he sold Lucasfilm because people kept telling him that he was a horrible director. He was already making non-SW stuff while still leading Lucasfilm; (Crystal Skull, Howard the Duck, Red Tails) the SW stuff was basically on autopilot because Filoni and the EU authors were running it in his stead. But if they had any ideas that went against his wishes, like say, Ahsoka surviving past the Clone Wars, or an evil Obi-Wan clone, he'd squash that shit immediately.
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Would have made order 66 more impactful if AhSUEka got killed during it. Anakin would have believed it was the jedi that ultimately killed her and made his irrationality make more sense than "I had a bad dream padme!" when he hesitated to let Palpatine live.
 
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So did anything that matter actually happen in AssSoaka? According to shills it’s “Changed everything forever” but they say it positively lol. Was it at least a enjoyable thing to hate watch?
 
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So did anything that matter actually happen in AssSoaka? According to shills it’s “Changed everything forever” but they say it positively lol. Was it at least a enjoyable thing to hate watch?
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It was largely fanservice and weebshit so No. It was still cool to see a live action Anakin in clone armor and more live action clone wars stuff.
 
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Polyraptor said:
It was largely fanservice and weebshit so No. It was still cool to see a live action Anakin in clone armor.
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In my desire to not be such a negative piece of shit I’ll just say, at least people got something out of it lol. I’ll still say that I am happy that I didn’t bother with it, which sucks because I never wanted this shit to be bad and I wish people who cared about things more than their ocs and wolves were actually helming this franchise.
 
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Would have made order 66 more impactful if AhSUEka got killed during it. Anakin would have believed it was the jedi that ultimately killed her and made his irrationality make more sense than "I had a bad dream padme!" when he hesitated to let Palpatine live.
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Exactly. Heck, imagine if the Jedi's misguided strategies led to Ahsoka dying. That'd be another black stain as to why Anakin would hate the Jedi, and it would make him more paranoid of losing Padme, because now, he's lost his mother AND his surrogate sister, so the idea of losing his wife would be the final straw.

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I see. Still, the Nohgri would obviously prefer serving Darth Vader's kids over some admiral with dubious claims of authority over them. Thrawn merely claims that Vader and the Emperor's authority passed down to him, but neither Vader nor the Emperor anointed him as their heir, it was just a command from Vader. As for not knowing Vader's kids, there were more than a few in the Imperial hierarchy who knew. Mara Jade certainly knew. As for Joruus, well, I don't think Thrawn would get to besiege Mount Tantiss. His own soldiers would probably kill him after Joruus wiped their minds.
 
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Allow me to recap each episode:
Episode 1: The republic being stupid, aSHITka being boring and robots try to nuke (after a warning and despite the person sending them being looking for the ball)
Episode 2: Sabin should've died here.
Episode 3: Why is sabin still alive?
Episode 4: Sabin being a terrible person and aSHITka cheating death again.
Episode 5: Worthless filler featuring a legacy character, space whales and a general bringing a child to a battlefield.
Episode 6: A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, thrawn wasn't a incompetent moron like in this series.
Episode 7: The republic deserved what happened in"the force's woke" by jar jar abrams, ezra is a incel and thrawn is retarded (but it was all part of his plan).
Episode 8: Sabin says "Fuck midichlorian, the force is female, it's sabin time" and them sabined all over the two tie fighters sent by an even less intelligent thrawn than in the previous episode.
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Don't forget that at least half of each episode can be cut since it's just long, self-masturbatory shots of fuck all. It came off like Dave wanking off screaming his fanfiction is real now and he's a real people director.
jspit2.0 said:
@Adamska Holy shit. Fucking zombies? They really went with zombies?

Welp, Deathtroopers is now being raided. This fucking parasite. Is there anything he won't rip off?

Also, am I hearing right? Sabine is now good at the Force too? Fuck!!!!! How many things even is she now? Pilot, Bounty Hunter, Mando, engineer, demolition expert, imperial officer, lightsaber duelist and now she's a fucking full on talented Jedi?
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Well yeah, they of course plundered one more memberberry because Dave thinks it gives his shitty fanfiction legitimacy. Though given how this is doing Mando Season 3 numbers it could've been desperation as well.

And yes, Sabine can use the force now because they are almost utterly unable to come up with major characters without giving them force powers. It was a big ass pull that "pays off" for like one moment. Trash.
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ANOTHER SEASON IS ON ITS WAY!
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Translation: Kathy's being a lying cunt about having more projects like she usually bullshits or Lucasfilm was so goddamn dumb they were contracted to do two seasons ala Velma. It did Mando 3 numbers, for all that Disney lied about 14 million views for episode one.
 
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LORD IMPERATOR said:
Exactly. Heck, imagine if the Jedi's misguided strategies led to Ahsoka dying. That'd be another black stain as to why Anakin would hate the Jedi, and it would make him more paranoid of losing Padme, because now, he's lost his mother AND his surrogate sister, so the idea of losing his wife would be the final straw.

@Franken Castle
I see. Still, the Nohgri would obviously prefer serving Darth Vader's kids over some admiral with dubious claims of authority over them. Thrawn merely claims that Vader and the Emperor's authority passed down to him, but neither Vader nor the Emperor anointed him as their heir, it was just a command from Vader. As for not knowing Vader's kids, there were more than a few in the Imperial hierarchy who knew. Mara Jade certainly knew. As for Joruus, well, I don't think Thrawn would get to besiege Mount Tantiss. His own soldiers would probably kill him after Joruus wiped their minds.
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No, Mara kinda sorta knew, maybe? She knew what the Emperor lied to her about as he died, that Luke and Vader teamed up and killed him. I don't remember if he mentioned to her that Luke was Vader's son, but I don't think so. I'm fairly certain Luke explains that to her near the end of Last Command when he learns why she wants to kill him. Even if she knew, she wouldn't mention it to Thrawn because she didn't respect him and considered the Empire dead and gone with Palpatine dead.
You're dead on about the Noghri though, soon as Leia showed up it was over for them serving the Empire, just a matter of time.
As far as I'm aware, in Legends only Palpatine knew about Luke's relation to Vader. In Disney Wars, Tarkin and Thrawn figured Anakin was Vader due to their interactions with Vader pre and post suit, but they didn't know he had kids.
Joruus was turning out new clones that would've been loyal to him. I think the ones Thrawn had would've been fine, he would've had to kill Joruus regardless since this lunatic murder hobo was now squatting on his trump card.


Anyways, no disrespect intended, its rare I meet someone with Star Wars Autism that rivals my own. Just thought you had some minor details wrong that's all.
 
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@Franken Castle I remember in Galactic Battlegrounds that Mara Jade identified Luke as Vader's son and heir before the Battle of Hoth. She even hoped Vader would join Luke against the Emperor so she could replace him. And if Mara knew, who's to say that other members of the Imperial upper crust didn't know? That, and the Skywalkers being Vader's kin was public knowledge last I remember, since Crimson Empire had a plot about Leia being identified as Vader's daughter. But then again, that was after Thrawn, so they might've leaked it after Thrawn died. As for knowing who Vader was, in the Legends novel Dark Lord: Rise of Darth Vader, Tarkin knew who Vader was and talked to Palpatine about how Vader's existence was the stuff of rumors.
 
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Ahhhh ok. I think the Galactic Battlegrounds people goofed on that one, because that doesn't track with her characterization in the Thrawn Trilogy at all. (I know in Legends its all canon unless otherwise stated to not be but, I'm going with novels over RTS games with some already dubious canon issues)
I don't remember that part from Dark Lord so I'll take your word for it, good catch.
I probably don't remember because I didn't like that book. But my favorite book is Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor so what the fuck do I know :lit:
 
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Ahhhh ok. I think the Galactic Battlegrounds people goofed on that one, because that doesn't track with her characterization in the Thrawn Trilogy at all. (I know in Legends its all canon unless otherwise stated to not be but, I'm going with novels over RTS games with some already dubious canon issues)
I don't remember that part from Dark Lord so I'll take your word for it, good catch.
I probably don't remember because I didn't like that book. But my favorite book is Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor so what the fuck do I know :lit:
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The way I see it, there's a reason why Motti on the Death Star looked down upon Vader. Guys like Tarkin and Mara knew who Vader was, and I wouldn't really put it out of character that other close associates of Palpatine or Tarkin knew as well. They didn't see a powerful Dark Lord, they see Papa Palpatine's pool-boy, here to clean up the mess, hence why they felt eminently within their rights to insult Vader's religion. Notice how the men of the regular fleet don't have that kind of moxy; the officers in ANH accompanying Vader on the Tantive IV relayed realistic concerns, whereas the Navy officers were all scared shitless of Vader.
 
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