2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

It is a common misconception that Israel has epic US style gun rights. Those photos of Israelis at beaches and other public spaces with CAR-15s and other rifles are off duty IDF conscripts that are required to retain a weapon on their off time during service. Israel has gun rights comparable to Mexico, ie very crappy and difficult to legally own a firearm.
Israeli gun rights are just as bizarre as the US. The US is full of guns despite having peaceful borders and a shitton of allies, and Israel has none despite pretty much anyone who isn't pasty white wanting them dead and bombed to dust.

The fuck is wrong with these people.
 
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Israeli gun rights are just as bizarre as the US. The US is full of guns despite having peaceful borders and a shitton of allies, and Israel has none despite pretty much anyone who isn't pasty white wanting them dead and bombed to dust.

The fuck is wrong with these people.
I blame this on the basis that perhaps most of the Jews who founded Israel came from Europe and were used to their gun laws. In any setup where you are constantly colonizing/"settling" anything like the setup the USA on guns would be far more preferable since you'd have to fight off potential attackers from time to time.
 
I'm not fond of the jews, but I don't think most here, even the hardcore /pol/fags would stomach child killing and sexual violence. Even from a pragmatic view such people like kids and women make better hostages to ransom, than targets to turn global opinion against you.
When sectarianism and fanaticism are involved pragmatism gets defenestrated.
This is more akin to the intifadas it's more of a general palestinian uprising rather than an invasion from its neighbors
Of course, but the scale of these attacks is unprecedented, for example the first intifada produced the same numbers of casualties as of the time of writing during a 5 years period. The second intifada produced ten times as many during another 5 years period, with numerous suicide bombings producing the largest percentage of the casualties. And now that I think about it, we haven't seen any suicide bombings today, yet I should add.
 
Iran funded Hamas to do this attack. Iran wants this attack because they want Israel to annihilate the gaza strip and cause a larger war reaction amongst muslim countries against israel.
I think countries like Saudi Arabia see more money in getting along with Israel and view the Palestinians as irrelevant. Iran probably has supported Hamas with this, but I imagine it's because Iran is run by a bunch of retards that don't this shit through about how it'll just embolden Israel to bomb their shit (especially since Israel is getting along with a lot of its neighbors these days).

They're pretty much giving Israel free license to go hunting down Palestinians without anyone really being able to say a bad word about it.
 
I think countries like Saudi Arabia see more money in getting along with Israel and view the Palestinians as irrelevant. Iran probably has supported Hamas with this, but I imagine it's because Iran is run by a bunch of retards that don't this shit through about how it'll just embolden Israel to bomb their shit (especially since Israel is getting along with a lot of its neighbors these days).

They're pretty much giving Israel free license to go hunting down Palestinians without anyone really being able to say a bad word about it.
Iran and Saudi Arabia are borderline at war already. The Iranians already attacked Saudi oil fields and they are fighting an active proxy war in Yemen. Iran is not in a great spot overall with also a lot of internal discontent. So this might just be their way to project "strength"
 
Lol the Israelis should have ethnically cleansed the Palestinians in 67 and 73. Now they have to deal with this shit.

Welp, hopefully the "world's biggest open air prison" enjoys being fucking smashed.
Yeah, the leftist jews crying about Palestinians are going to either STFU or made to STFU
Jewish holiday + lack of intel
Yep, plus complacency
there gonna be a lot of photos and vids like this. coming out over the next day or so.
Yep, TPD is coming VERY soon
Or it could have been operated by retarded conscripts. The Isreali military has a lot of issues with readiness and motivation (like Western militaries). I wouldn't be surprised if the guys manning the system were fucking off or didn't even know how to fully operate it. The fact that so many IDF soliders are being slaughtered leads me to believe they weren't training for this kind of surprise attack or expected one to ever happen.
Extremely true, conscript armies, especially when they're doing safe and boring tasks, are quite lazy and unmotivated.
They are also used to Mossad being on top of this kind of stuff. Normally this plan would have been aborted by a bunch of Hamas commanders getting drone striked or committing suicide by 10 bullets to the back of the head. The fact that this happened with apparently no warning is an incredible intelligence failure.
Mossad is run by people and people fuck up all the time.
Honestly the saddest part will be the fallout. After this is over, I suspect the population of Gaza is getting pushed into the sea. Plus there may well straight up be ethnic cleansing in Israel. I'm just sad that innocent men women and children will get evicted on an even higher rate from now on.

I wonder if the left will still argue that terror attacks are just "part and parcel" of living in a developed country, when Israel tries to clamp down. Suddenly things will change to terror attacks must be stamped out no matter what.
Yep, Hamas is sending Gaza straight to hell.
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Interesting video. At least 2 Merkavas are confirmed destroyed (this one and the earlier images) and it seems drone warfare can no longer be dismissed as a Ukraine war gimmick.
Destroyed.... ehhh. Damaged for sure and possibly combat ineffective.
Good Lord.
30+ years of Palestinian PR down the fuckin' drain.
Yep, the absolute retards running Hamas and PIJ seem to think that their leftist simps in the West (the ones with money mind you) like seeing them murder families and children, take hostages/kidnap people like it's the 14th century and parade and desecrate corpses through the streets......

Like I said before, retards
It is a common misconception that Israel has epic US style gun rights. Those photos of Israelis at beaches and other public spaces with CAR-15s and other rifles are off duty IDF conscripts that are required to retain a weapon on their off time during service. Israel has gun rights comparable to Mexico, ie very crappy and difficult to legally own a firearm.
Yep, the VAST majority of civilian Israelis are unarmed. For decades Israel proper has been pretty safe....

I have a strong feeling that this will change FAST.
 
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