2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[Soycast Guy]

Not a smart Idea to kill more potential foreigners. Last time I checked Israel still had flight going. Unless this isn't an International airport.
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Muslims and airports. A perfect pair.

 

[Wendy Wheelchair]

This is a question coming from a place of good faith and wanting to understand people who disagree with me instead of arguing and making wojaks of each other. If you consider yourself conservative, genuinely libertarian, right leaning or even alt-right can you please explain to me why you are pro Israel in this matter?

So as an American conservative, here is my take:

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It all depends on if you believe Jews should be allowed to have their own nation. I personally believe they do due to not only history but actual land ownership and investment. The history of the region where Israel is is very clear and well documented. Jews have lived there for millennia, there is no denying that. They were mainly displaced by the Muslim military conquest of Israel (which the Eastern Roman Empire failed to prevent) in the 7th century. But then flash forward to late 19th century. The Zionism movement starts up in earnest and many Jews buy land in what is now Israel. In 1920, in the aftermath of WWI, Britain takes control. Because living standards have increased due to it now being ruled by Brits and not Muslims and the Jews have greenified large swaths of formerly desert land, many Muslims start pouring into the country, literally doubling the Arab population between 1922-1948. So any claims that this was always a heavily Muslim area are wrong.

So now it's 1948 and there is the UN plan for the 2 state solution. Jews overwhelmingly support it. Arabs reject it because they want the whole region (BTW, half of what was British Mandate Palestine already becomes the fully Muslim country of Jordan). The day before the UN plan was set to be enforced, the entire Arab world coordinates an invasion of the soon-to-be Jewish state. The war goes on for a year with Israel soundly pushing back the Muslims to basically what the current borders of Israel are today. This conflict ends in 1949 with Israel and the invading Arab countries signing an armistice that codifies these borders. Over the latter half of the 20th century, there are multiple attempts by the Muslims to invade again, but they're always rebuffed. During this time as well, there are millions of displaced "Palestinian" Arab refugees, mostly in Jordan, living in refugee camps for decades because these Muslim countries refuse to take them in despite sharing the same language, religion, culture, and ethnicity.

Now in the 2000s, basically there is little border control between the Gaza Strip and Israel (and even Israeli settlements within Gaza) as relations have normalized. But then the Second Intifada lasts for 5 years where basically you have constant terrorist attacks from Arabs on Israelis. After it is suppressed, Israel amps up security and withdraws all Israelis from Gaza, leading to our current situation.

My question to you is why are you confused about this situation? What was your understanding of what was happening and why?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I've seen a lot of euro lefties outright avoiding to call Hamas terrorist, so they are very clear where they stand. I am surprised as well on how hard it's grabbed the US though, seems like they aren't so keen om dying for Israel anymore.

I am an American leftie and if the past few days has taught me anything, it's that Hamas is certainly a terrorist organization. Beheading babies and executing hostages and innocent people definitely makes them terrorists. Israel aren't saints but I hope they wipe Hamas from the map

 

[RedGermaine]

I've seen a lot of euro lefties outright avoiding to call Hamas terrorist, so they are very clear where they stand. I am surprised as well on how hard it's grabbed the US though, seems like they aren't so keen om dying for Israel anymore.

Which is hillarious since their beloved faggots and ideals will be what makes them be chucked the first from rooftops. Standard leftie train of thought that they can will things to be by wishing hard enough.

The European caliphate is becoming a when, not an if, and I think I can bullshit my way through that, but the standard latte communist? Oh boy it will be a rude awakening.

The real play is to ignore the middle east and "let it sort itself out" because god knows they all deserve each other on that God forsaken land.

Hamas are freedom fighters the same way child molesters are pick up artists

 

[King George III]

Damage from rocket attack in Ashkelon

 

[Evilronald]

You really want our single ally in their entire middle east gone? The middle east is riddled with Islamic extremist rats. Psychopaths that will conduct terror operations out of schools and hospitals, then cry foul when they face retribution.

You want to know why Jews dominate so many industries? Its the same reason Asians do. Ashkenazic Jews have the highest IQ statistics of any racial group, nudging out even east asains. Pair this with an industrious culture and its no wonder why Jews tend to rise to positions of authority.

Want to talk about what religion/ethnic group wants to undermine western values? Look at the Muslims. Their religion revolves around war and a literal pedophile. It’s encouraged in their religion to rape the wives of the men of nations they conquered. They have a concept of "victory mosques". Countries that have taken them in en mass have exponentially increasing rape statistics. Many Muslim regimes ACTIVELY CAMPAIGN for an end to the west.

That’s a clear Israeli shill take. They are not America’s “allies.” Look at the USS Liberty, look at their use of Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell to honeypot our politicians and blackmail them. Look at the decades of foreign policy created be the neocons (who are mostly Jews). Was invading Iraq good for America or good for Israel? Israel has had numerous spies arrested by the US government: that isn’t what an “ally” does.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

The failure of intelligence (both Mossad, American, and international) to predict and prevent this from happening is probably highlights just how these agencies AREN'T as omniscient and hi-tech as people think. Intelligence agencies inflate their capabilities and effectiveness because they're a government agency. For political and social reasons, and reasons pertaining to our culture (e.g., James Bond) people put too much faith in them... or blame them for too many things (like how socialists blame the CIA for everything that goes wrong in a socialist South American country).

 

[Wendy Wheelchair]

I am an American leftie and if the past few days has taught me anything, it's that Hamas is certainly a terrorist organization. Beheading babies and executing hostages and innocent people definitely makes them terrorists. Israel aren't saints but I hope they wipe Hamas from the map

You realize you've continuously voted for politicians who campaign on funding Hamas, right?

 

[Vott]

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[im5!XxhO]

The failure of intelligence (both Mossad, American, and international) to predict and prevent this from happening is probably highlights just how these agencies AREN'T as omniscient and hi-tech as people think.

It's not the first major fuck up and it won't be the last. Unfortuantely shit happens and sometimes the consequences are horrifying. You also can't take every threat 110% seriously because that would just exhaust your finite ressources.
But that's the perk of being a German, we know the BND is the most useless and uninformed intelligence agency the world has ever seen (truth be told we always sucked at intelligence even during the world wars), so you don't even get tempted into trusting them.

 

[FinnSven]

The woke left I was surprised by, but the OG left have always been very anti-zion, an very pro-palestine. Why that is, I have no idea.

The formation of Israel was damn controversial at the time, with the British Empire favoring the newly arrived Jewish settlers over the Palos.

A lot of holocaust surviving Jews were wealthy or had been before their property was seized, so it was seen by a number of lefties as wealthy being taken care of and brought back to status quo while displacing super poor working class people.

 

[A Humble Moose]

I've not seen it mentioned here but there appears to be a boat burning in the waters just off shore of Gaza City.

 

[Betonhaus]

You want to know why Jews dominate so many industries? Its the same reason Asians do. Ashkenazic Jews have the highest IQ statistics of any racial group, nudging out even east asains. Pair this with an industrious culture and its no wonder why Jews tend to rise to positions of authority.

Last I checked, Jewish controlled industries heavily use ESG targets and connections for hiring practices, to the detriment of general competency.

 

[Richard Freeman]

more iron dome footage

https://t.me/GazanowHebrew/161

 

[King George III]

This dumb nigger wants a visit from the FBI

 

[A Humble Moose]

More rockets fired from Gaza City.



EDIT: Appears to be multiple waves.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

You want to know why Jews dominate so many industries? Its the same reason Asians do. Ashkenazic Jews have the highest IQ statistics of any racial group, nudging out even east asains. Pair this with an industrious culture and its no wonder why Jews tend to rise to positions of authority.

This is not actually true on the IQ front. IQ tests for jews put them at pretty much the same as Europe as a whole (which varied depending on which part of europe you actually test, so lower than Western Europe in actuality). The culture front though absolutely. To actually sperg about jews for a moment, Jews are just the easy people to finger point at when the problem of 'disconnected wealthy people with stupid fucking ideas about society keep ruining things', because there are a lot of rich jews in those circles. There are also a lot of rich, crazy whites, and a lot of rich crazy asians in there. The issue is not really jews, but that there is a system of government, finance and power that allows people to entirely disconnect from their societies and float around the world as essentially free agents; with no repercussions.

Muslims though are completely incompatible with the western world, and the only reason people think they are compatible with the middle east is because the muzzies massacred and raped anyone that wasn't them in that region. Muzzies are basically eternal barbarians. They might not have been that way at some magical point in the past maybe, but they are now. You can't live with them, you can't even really live near them. If people have issues with the jews for people rootless cosmopolitans, then the mass celebrations in European nations by Muslims about what should be a foreign nation - but isn't - attacking another foreign nation, in a region of the world that should be entirely non relevant, should also be treated as just as bad.

 

[William Tyndale]

more iron dome footage
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Do you have a normie link for my boomer family members?

 

[Tiggletown]

You really want our single ally in their entire middle east gone? The middle east is riddled with Islamic extremist rats. Psychopaths that will conduct terror operations out of schools and hospitals, then cry foul when they face retribution.

You want to know why Jews dominate so many industries? Its the same reason Asians do. Ashkenazic Jews have the highest IQ statistics of any racial group, nudging out even east asains. Pair this with an industrious culture and its no wonder why Jews tend to rise to positions of authority.

Want to talk about what religion/ethnic group wants to undermine western values? Look at the Muslims. Their religion revolves around war and a literal pedophile. Its encouraged in their religion to rape the wives of the men of nations they conquered. They have a concept of "victory mosques". Countries that have taken them in en mass have exponentially increasing rape statistics. Many Muslim regimes ACTIVELY CAMPAIGN for an end to the west.

No Muslim has ever destroyed my society with Porn, manipulated our economy with interest rates and inflation, empowered mossad funded pedophiles like Epstein and destroyed our free speech and safety with Jewish think tank groups such as BLM and Antifa.

So yes, I'd rather have a bunch of pedophile worshipping brown savages a million miles away over insidious society obliterating Jews running every aspect of my life through dementia ridden democrats puppets or fake hair republican Twitter blowhards that we have now.

It's not about what group is more just, or has the "highest IQ" it's about the survival of the White Man and I'll take a 9/11 every 50 years or so versus constantly being attacked by all sides by the Jewish machine.

 

[Breadbassket]

Democratic Socialists of America having some problems regarding Palestine