2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[LeChampion1992]

Itt people thinking Israel should do absolutely nothing in reaction to the atrocities committed by Hamas, Every other nation on the planet would do the exact same thing as Israel.

I dunno France didn't do much after the bataclan massacre and Europe just went the mass surveillance route and ignored everything else.
Russia meanwhile installed a dictatorship and had that dictator kill the terrorists after the beslan massacre.

My friend. If we bombed that kindergarten class in Iraq to take out their main communications or whatever it was, I would've been all for it. But that is the exact same thing as killing innocent civilians intentionally.

I mean look invasions have consequences especially when you target and massacre civilians and make it personal. Hamas made an open declaration of war. This wasn't a terrorist incident, this wasn't a minor border incursion this was a major assault on the populace. While I would like to be Israel calm down the gazans made their bed this time. They wanted a war well they got one. I hope they understand they deserve the terrors and screams. When you cheer, aid and abeit a hostile force then I guess You're in the fuck around and find out phase. I didn't like Alexander dugins daughter being killed but hey the war got real. Russia got what it deserve and Hamas gets what it deserves.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Footage of an IDF bulldozer followed by armored vehicles

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Minor nitpick, this is not a Bulldozer, this is a Bucket Loader. Dozers are characterized by a fixed blade rather than the bucket/plow the loader is using here.

 

[That Guy Who Likes The Chili]

On the VERY rare occasions when you do have civilians being used as human shields, that's a very case by case thing. One dude shooting at a helicopter from an elementary school rooftop with a pistol is not worth dropping a JDAM on. A crowd throwing rocks at you while people mixed in are shooting at you? That's a case where it's probably better to not worry so much about shooting the human shields.

So out of curiosity because your examples sucked. What do you do when you have militants shooting rockets at you from inside of a school? Or know that there is a weapons cache inside of a hospital?
Just go "aw shucks" and go home?

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

I am frankly struggling to understand the Hamas plan here; with their certain knowledge of what Israel would do in response.

It would make sense if you wanted to ensure a large Israeli force was quagmired in Gaza while your Iranian buddies then took their chance to strike Israel; or another attack would come from the West Bank.

Outside of this; I can’t see the intended goal of the attack. I think there has to be a twist coming shortly.

This is like Huns probing deep into the Roman Empire and kidnapping a bunch of Romans for ransom money.

Except in this case, Huns don't have horses or resources to put any kind of long-term pressure to jeopardize the Roman security apparatus.

 

[Victory Leo]

They would wear babies as hats if it was an exploit. Not only do their children go to heaven when they die as a soldier, meat-shield or a suicide bomber but nothing brings donations and support like their images spreading on social media.

BUT

Israel was clearly doing the same with those fucking settlers. What incentives were given to those old people or to the poor families for them to go live that close to Mordor? Turns out they weren't even being protected.

they were being protected, just very poorly.
but yeah I have no idea why you'd live right next to an entire micronation of sand niggers & not at the very least arm yourself & your family.

 

[Betonhaus]

Israel's Final Solution is working.

This war is an excellent opportunity for divided Israelis to unite (50% support of aggressive stance against Palestine and 50% support of liberal policies for Palestine) and remove undesirables from Gaza once and for all.

This is only going to end well for the Jews.

Everyone else, including Europe, will have to suffer millions of refugees and illegal immigrants.

Well played, Jews, well played.

In theory.

I'm seeing that both sides are painting the other to be violent murders, which is destroying the Jewish Iron Dome protecting them from scrutiny and raising the question of importing Muslims was ever a good idea. If things play out right, we might get more objective general analysis of the Holocaust and people recognizing that nations should focus on people who are willing to support their country over those that hate it.

 

[Flea Man Marbles]

Why don't you do some research that doesn't have Wikipedia holding your hand? The whole situation didn't develop over the last few days. There's a solid thirty years of history that is very relevant here. It's just inconvenient to (((them))) when it's brought up that (((they're))) not exactly innocent victims in this.

At some point you have to take the "Those who fail to learn from history yadda yadda" cross-stitch off from the wall and hold people accountable for their actions right now in the present. We all know there are reasons behind why this conflict has come to such a head but I am so very tired of all the history sperging because it grasps to justify whatever deviant behaviour is going on right now.
At some point I think the best course of action is to realize everyone involved are moral-deprived idiots and do literally nothing. No support, no egging on of either side, no propoghanda, just....nothing. Though at this point America has meddled in middle east affairs so much it's probably impossible to take our thumb out of the pie and plead neutrality. Definitely we should be giving away BILLIONS of dollars to child murderers, and maybe use that money for shit here at home (there's plenty of potholes on the roads in my region)

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

"we were trying to get to the terrorists" has always been the excuse of people who really have no idea where the terrorists are from the Soviet Union to the USA. Wanna know where they most certainly aren't? Hiding in the rooftops of high rises. After this war is over and the accounting is made then we will probably come to the same conclusion that massed air bombing campaigns against terrorists always lead to: any enemies killed were basically coincidental.

You'd have to be exceedingly naive to believe Israel knows or even has any idea where even 0.5% of Hamas members even could be, let alone be sure of any of it. Most of these strikes are probably based on ages-old information, educated guesses and traitorous civilians in Gaza who saw somebody who maybe kind of looked like this guy my cousin knew who used to go to the same restaurant as this Hamas dude and might get paid a few shekels for it.

Both sides are actively killing civilians because both sides actively despise eachother, and none of them are trying to minimize civilian casualties. Anything they say to the contrary is complete garbage propaganda that you'd have to be a retard to believe at all.

the IDF bombs weapons depots mostly, its rare that there's actually any active hamas personnel inside

I haven't really seen the whole "human shield" thing actually happening that often. The US made the exact same claims in Afghanistan and the Afghan people almost unilaterally supported the Taliban because they knew it was complete horse shit. Hell I saw cases where the Taliban didn't detonate IEDs because there were too many civilians near our patrols, and we weren't using civilians as human shields. The whole thing of it is, you're going to be operating closer to civilians if you're inside your own borders because the civilians aren't going to immediately run away from their own soldiers.

On the VERY rare occasions when you do have civilians being used as human shields, that's a very case by case thing. One dude shooting at a helicopter from an elementary school rooftop with a pistol is not worth dropping a JDAM on. A crowd throwing rocks at you while people mixed in are shooting at you? That's a case where it's probably better to not worry so much about shooting the human shields.

talk to Silwar about it, he openly admitted it's a real problem

UNRWA had to ask hamas to stop using their schools to store weapons

https://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/pres...placement-rockets-second-time-one-its-schools

 

[MMS-China]

I am frankly struggling to understand the Hamas plan here; with their certain knowledge of what Israel would do in response.

It would make sense if you wanted to ensure a large Israeli force was quagmired in Gaza while your Iranian buddies then took their chance to strike Israel; or another attack would come from the West Bank.

Outside of this; I can’t see the intended goal of the attack. I think there has to be a twist coming shortly.

I can't imagine the mindset of someone who was raised and their entire family in a virtual warzone. Probably some of your relatives and friends were killed by IDF growing up. So probably their only motivation in life is revenge. For the people in power, they only have to point and you shoot.

 

[TheClappening]

No, you're wrong. Israelis are borderline retarded and won't react like everyone else would.

If the Mexican government last saturday had sent in paragliders in Texas to murder 1,000 people we'd already be building new Walmarts and Trader Joe's on the vast parking lot of America's new 51st State.

Considering Texas is, well, Texas, I think all the civilians would've taken out the invading beaners before the national guard deployed.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

In theory.

I'm seeing that both sides are painting the other to be violent murders, which is destroying the Jewish Iron Dome protecting them from scrutiny and raising the question of importing Muslims was ever a good idea. If things play out right, we might get more objective general analysis of the Holocaust and people recognizing that nations should focus on people who are willing to support their country over those that hate it.

Israel should never allow Arabs to hold citizenship in their country. That's why removing undesirable is the #1 goal for the Jews. If I was a pragmatic Jew and not sure libtard with a bleeding heart for "HUMAN RIGHTS", I'd do the same.

If Israel starts to constitute a population reminiscent of Lebanon, it would cease to be Israel altogether.

 

[MadStan]

Unless they are truly 6000 IQ niggers, I don't think they have much more up their sleeve besides banking on the surrounding Arab countries to join in and kill more kikes.
its possible that they have like a metric shitton of combatants in the tunnels ready for a the Kike VS Sand Nigger equivalent of Vietnam, but I don't think their tunnels are anywhere near as elaborate.

They launched a sophisticated attack with an incredible number of weapons showing an elaborate degree of planning and excellent execution. They were under-estimated while merely a few miles away a sophisticated intelligence operation entirely dedicated to watching them missed it - despite having every superiority available. I’m just saying the apparent logic and illigic behind their methods may occlude a more long term machination that is also hidden from us until executed.

 

[God of Nothing]

I mean look invasions have consequences especially when you target and massacre civilians and make it personal. Hamas made an open declaration of war. This wasn't a terrorist incident, this wasn't a minor border incursion this was a major assault on the populace. While I would like to be Israel calm down the gazans made their bed this time. They wanted a war well they got one. I hope they understand they deserve the terrors and screams. When you cheer, aid and abeit a hostile force then I guess You're in the fuck around and find out phase. I didn't like Alexander dugins daughter being killed but hey the war got real. Russia got what it deserve and Hamas gets what it deserves.

I hope one of you at least has the decency to wipe out the other this time. Clearly, you can't coexist and you will only continue to kill each other. Your surrounding neighbors don't want either of you, and I doubt you'll both be calm enough for any kind of refugee situation to occur without incident. Label it whatever you want. This entire conflict has been long overdue.

 

[Fatniggo1488]

So out of curiosity because your examples sucked. What do you do when you have militants shooting rockets at you from inside of a school? Or know that there is a weapons cache inside of a hospital?
Just go "aw shucks" and go home?

Well what would you do if those where your children in the school?

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Considering Texas is, well, Texas, I think all the civilians would've taken out the invading beaners before the national guard deployed.

Not if they landed at sxsw in austin, nigga.

 

[LeChampion1992]

they were being protected, just very poorly.
but yeah I have no idea why you'd live right next to an entire micronation of sand niggers & not at the very least arm yourself & your family.

Israel has very draconian gun control it's not as bad as the UK or Australia as you're allowed to own semi automatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns but the restriction process is prohibitive because of a couple of non Arab mass shooters in the 1990s and mid 2000s. Because of this conflict however you're going to see a lot of those restrictions get lifted to help Israelis defend themselves.

I hope one of you at least has the decency to wipe out the other this time. Clearly, you can't coexist and you will only continue to kill each other. Your surrounding neighbors don't want either of you, and I doubt you'll both be calm enough for any kind of refugee situation to occur without incident. Label it whatever you want. This entire conflict has been long overdue.

I mean at this point I'm expecting ethnic cleansing by the Israelis and seeing a bunch of palastinians move to Europe and fuck it up to be quite honest.

 

[Breadbassket]

Palestine celebration rally in Dearborn, Mich.: “When you go to a Black Lives Matter rally, you see Palestinian flags, when you go to a white supremacy rally, you see Israeli flags.”

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Well what would you do if those where your children in the school?

what kind of fucking retard sends his children to a school that's also used as a missile launch site by terrorists?

 

[Enig]

Israel should never allow Arabs to hold citizenship in their country. That's why removing undesirable is the #1 goal for the Jews. If I was a pragmatic Jew and not sure libtard with a bleeding heart for "HUMAN RIGHTS", I'd do the same.

If Israel starts to constitute a population reminiscent of Lebanon, it would cease to be Israel altogether.

So what happens when they get ride of Undesirable Group #1, do they stop with their 100% hyperjudean paradise on earth secured or do they start to have new ideas about all those nuns and crossbearers they spit on every sunday

 

[Fatniggo1488]

Palestine celebration rally in Dearborn, Mich.: “When you go to a Black Lives Matter rally, you see Palestinian flags, when you go to a white supremacy rally, you see Israeli flags.”

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Lol when you go to either rally, everyone holding the flags are either feds or convicted felons, and that's not even a joke.