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2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict
- Thread starter Enoch Emery
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Devout Muslim
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Has the regime done anything? There’s still like 900 US troops in the SDF-occupied parts of Syria and Turkey grabbing land to the north. I would be surprised if he’s going to start shit with the Israelis and have to worry about 3 fronts.
You niggas got your dicks kicked in when you tried to go all ‘world police’ on the Vietnamese for ending the Khmer Rouge’s genocidal reign of terror. You can’t take shit. At least when the Americans lost in Vietnam they weren’t trying to reinstall fucking Pol Pot lmao.
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Israel knew the hostages were dead when there were no beheading videos.
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Not sure where you're from so you may not recognise it glaringly but he definitely has an Irish twang to his accent on certain words. That was heartbreaking, poor man. The only saving grace is at least he can begin to grieve and heal.
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The Palestinian flag is really ambiguous in Syria because it's also the official flag of Assad's Ba'ath Party too
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Didn’t you hear? Our army just put out some recruitment ads with straight white men in them. That’s a sign of the apocalypse
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Why haven't they been bombed into oblivion yet? It's very weird how you can have American troops just openly chilling on the land of a sovereign nation that doesn't want them there and everyone is like hmmm yes this is normal.
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I have never, ever heard of a country's foreign minister literally be involved trafficking arms and personnel nevermind to an ally of theirs that is effectively at war. That is pure insanity even for the Iranians.
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Hittites, Assyrians and Babylonians aren't any more dead and gone than the Scythians or Picts, they morphed into other ethnic affiliations over the centuries. Assyrians and Babylonians are now folded into the general "Arab" category and Hittites are "Turks," both of which are like the category "Hispanic" conveying a vague sense of cultural affiliation rather than specific genetic ancestry. Egyptians, Persians, Greeks and Romans are still around with significant genetic similarity to their ancient counterparts.
The Jews who control the Israel region today have about as much in common with the ancient ones as a German does with an Indian. They are white Europeans with a tiny amount of Levantine ancestry and a religion that has deviated tremendously from Temple Judaism since the writing of the Talmud. Ironically, they call Christians heretics from the standpoint of ancient Judaism when they're at least equally as deviant. They're a group of European colonizers whose claim to the land is recognized as more valid than other colonial projects. If only all were given such latitude Rhodesia and South Africa would still be intact.
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theyre leftovers from the isis war i think
why havent they been bombed? because no state actor wants to risk american retaliation, and the non state actors aren't powerful enough to defeat burger troops in combat
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Well done, @AssignedEva; I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure you're the first person in nearly 400 pages to resort to using the maps that lie.
With regard to: https://kiwifarms.st/attachments/map-kushner-2020-4-jpg.5406673/, the actual compromise which reflected the then-current demographics of the region [which, of course, included many non-native Arab migrants with no tie to area] was actually the 1922 partition of the original Mandate for Palestine into an approximately 78% "Arab" state [known as "Arab Palestine", later "Transjordan" and, finally, the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan] and a 22% "Jewish" Palestine later to become the State of Israel.
There's a shit-ton of facts an nuance that you clearly ignore and that I'm not spending all day typing out but, in short, Jews and Arabs lived together in the sparsely populated southwestern Levant for decades under the Ottoman Empire up through 1850, which is when various persons and individuals began the project of building a "national homeland" in the historic region of Palestine. This brought Jews primarily from Europe to that region, and it brought migratory Arabs mostly from Egypt, Arabia and what would become Syria, Iraq, etc. [but mostly from Egypt and Hashemites]. This all went about rather uneventfully until the post-WWI era and the violence of the early 1920s - violence exacerbated by some people doing some things in Europe circa 1933-1945... Minor unpleasantness you may have heard of.
Anyway, with the increased migration of the post-WWII era and the fact that the Hashemite cast-offs and other unwanted Arab migrants abjectly refused to live peacefully within a "Jewish" state and the nations roundabout agitating them to rise up because they'd help them push the Jews into the sea and the UN trying to throw its weight around and force the "compromise" you cited [when they didn't actually have any authority in the matter and almost no one cared what they thought anyway], the Jews simply declared independence and you know the results.
None of it had to happen; the Arabs of the region that chose to remain in Jewish Palestine after the 1922 partition could have chosen to live in peace, but their pride would never allow them to live under a "Jewish" state [even if they'd already lived in peace together for almost seventy years under the Ottomans], so they went full retard, joined up with the armies of, what... five other Arab nations[?] in an attempt to drive the Jews into the sea. And they couldn't get it done and found themselves on the "wrong" side of the "green line" [which, by the way, was never a "border"].
And persons such as yourself think it's somehow "unfair" that they lost what they had because of it and aren't going to be welcomed back under a "right of return" to come in, seize whatever land they might want [after giving up 77% of historic Palestine in 1922, giving up control of Gaza [State 3], the West Bank [State 4] under threat of murdering anyone who objects.
Do tell: if people did that in whatever country you're from, what would happen to them?
Prior to Saturday I would have said that the best result would be either total withdrawl of Israeli settlers [or exchange of certain border settlements for additional land north and south of the present West Bank border and, with some restrictions [control of airspace], total withdrawal of security forces from the West Bank and some sort of land-bridge to Gaza, securing that border and giving the PA five-ten years to put a functional nation-state together.
Had the 2008 agreement been implemented, settlers in most of the West Bank would have been moved out, land would have been swapped according to a map that was posted earlier and the "Area C" shenanigans would have ended. I suspect that, had there been an agreement the Area A/B checkpoint issues would also have been dealt with in time and the region would have been continuous rather than look like a badly gerrymandered congressional district.
The ship has probably sailed on anything but perpetual Israeli control of Gaza and its, eventual, depopulation or the population being forcefully migrated to the West Bank [or elsewhere].
two, three, four state solution already implented and the fact that the majority of "palestinans" weren't even descended from people who were expelled for taking up arms in the 1948 attempted slaughter that allowing any professed "palestinian" to walk into any part of a [now even more reduced] State of Israel, claim any piece of land he liked and murder anyone who objected would be a bridge too far.
With regard to: https://kiwifarms.st/attachments/map-kushner-2020-4-jpg.5406673/, the actual compromise which reflected the then-current demographics of the region [which, of course, included many non-native Arab migrants with no tie to area] was actually the 1922 partition of the original Mandate for Palestine into an approximately 78% "Arab" state [known as "Arab Palestine", later "Transjordan" and, finally, the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan] and a 22% "Jewish" Palestine later to become the State of Israel.
Except that they didn't.
There's a shit-ton of facts an nuance that you clearly ignore and that I'm not spending all day typing out but, in short, Jews and Arabs lived together in the sparsely populated southwestern Levant for decades under the Ottoman Empire up through 1850, which is when various persons and individuals began the project of building a "national homeland" in the historic region of Palestine. This brought Jews primarily from Europe to that region, and it brought migratory Arabs mostly from Egypt, Arabia and what would become Syria, Iraq, etc. [but mostly from Egypt and Hashemites]. This all went about rather uneventfully until the post-WWI era and the violence of the early 1920s - violence exacerbated by some people doing some things in Europe circa 1933-1945... Minor unpleasantness you may have heard of.
Anyway, with the increased migration of the post-WWII era and the fact that the Hashemite cast-offs and other unwanted Arab migrants abjectly refused to live peacefully within a "Jewish" state and the nations roundabout agitating them to rise up because they'd help them push the Jews into the sea and the UN trying to throw its weight around and force the "compromise" you cited [when they didn't actually have any authority in the matter and almost no one cared what they thought anyway], the Jews simply declared independence and you know the results.
None of it had to happen; the Arabs of the region that chose to remain in Jewish Palestine after the 1922 partition could have chosen to live in peace, but their pride would never allow them to live under a "Jewish" state [even if they'd already lived in peace together for almost seventy years under the Ottomans], so they went full retard, joined up with the armies of, what... five other Arab nations[?] in an attempt to drive the Jews into the sea. And they couldn't get it done and found themselves on the "wrong" side of the "green line" [which, by the way, was never a "border"].
And persons such as yourself think it's somehow "unfair" that they lost what they had because of it and aren't going to be welcomed back under a "right of return" to come in, seize whatever land they might want [after giving up 77% of historic Palestine in 1922, giving up control of Gaza [State 3], the West Bank [State 4] under threat of murdering anyone who objects.
Do tell: if people did that in whatever country you're from, what would happen to them?
Not exactly a great deal, to be sure... But, as you mention, over time the land restrictions were to go away congruent with the "palestinians" behaving themselves, acting like human beings and good neighbors rather than the niggers that they are.
If there is ever to be a[nother] Arab state carved out of Jewish Palestine in the West Bank, Israel proper is going to have to in good faith cede control. As I said in an earlier post, the Jews aren't going to be pushed in the sea and the descendants of the Hashemite cast-offs and other unwanted Arab migrants aren't getting nuked. Both groups are there to stay, and both are going to have to accept a compromise they don't like.
Prior to Saturday I would have said that the best result would be either total withdrawl of Israeli settlers [or exchange of certain border settlements for additional land north and south of the present West Bank border and, with some restrictions [control of airspace], total withdrawal of security forces from the West Bank and some sort of land-bridge to Gaza, securing that border and giving the PA five-ten years to put a functional nation-state together.
Had the 2008 agreement been implemented, settlers in most of the West Bank would have been moved out, land would have been swapped according to a map that was posted earlier and the "Area C" shenanigans would have ended. I suspect that, had there been an agreement the Area A/B checkpoint issues would also have been dealt with in time and the region would have been continuous rather than look like a badly gerrymandered congressional district.
The ship has probably sailed on anything but perpetual Israeli control of Gaza and its, eventual, depopulation or the population being forcefully migrated to the West Bank [or elsewhere].
It wasn't a "point of contention" so much as it was, "we're not going to do this immediately". As you already pointed out, there was thinking that this would be a gradual drawdown of Israeli involvement contingent on the PA being able to keep their more extreme elements from misbehaving.
Had you been in their position I'm sure you'd think that with a
Especially when there had already been a two-state solution and the other state had already had its fill of dealing with the "palestinians".
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So there do exist based gays.
He's 100% right, the only reason the LGBTQPWTFBBQ supports Hamas is because "poor brown people being oppressed by white people" instead of realizing that while yes, Israel is a mistake, the other side is literally filled with subhuman barbarians who can't behave in society.
Also, a bunch of fucking towelheads in my area are getting uppity. Try something, bitch.
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Oh whoops we were just doing some weapons testing on this unused portion of our sovereign land. What do you mean you had soldiers there? Why were they there?? That's clearly a weapons testing range as you can see here on this map.
We're very sorry for your loss but seriously why were your soldiers on a military testing range?
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That's not going to stop any supplies getting into Syria from Iran, or anywhere else, it will just make it harder, not impossible. It risks escalation when the priority should be to secure and release the hostages as well as neutralize HAMAS, preventing any further incursions and the loss of Israeli lives that goes with it. This degenerate failure of a PM failed to heed the warning Egypt gave him and now he greenlit bombing Syria. Bibi doesn't give a shit about the lives of Israelis, its all about keeping himself and his pals in power.
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>enter thread about Israel/Palestine
>find chinaman sperging about how chinar numbah wan
China isn't even a real country, it's an American manufacturing colony that pretends to be independent once in a while.
>find chinaman sperging about how chinar numbah wan
China isn't even a real country, it's an American manufacturing colony that pretends to be independent once in a while.
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Never fear, the big bootied argentinians were successfully evacuated.
That's a great move if you own Raytheon stock. It is not such a great move if you are the Syrian government.
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Seriously, the gays are a bunch of total fags
Nope.....gays are basically just a bunch of homos.
Seriously, the gays are a bunch of total fags
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No beheaded babies, weird.