Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Adamska said:
Because the totally real and organic and not doing it for free-corpsec, cope-sucking hatewatchers, employees LARPing as "fans", or the people who just watched TCW as a kid tried for the longest time to defend Dave for a variety of reasons. It's only been since Andor came out I've seen serious efforts to actually point out how he's actually pretty bad by himself due to his not giving a single shit about planning and doing things because he wants to.
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I believe Andor fans called Filoni's shows the equivalent of "playing with action figures on the big screen". I've yet to see what Filoni fans think of Andor, but a few objectors to Andor in the mainstream call it slow as fuck.

Adamska said:
By the way, I've seen a bit of effort by the cope-suckers that now it's Favreau who is untouched. It's really sad to watch the justification for why they're more fucked than the Sonic fanbase at this point. At least Sonic fans had actual developmental delays and the occasional mid-to-sort of good game or product even now to excuse it.
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Wait, what? I thought Favreau lost his "cool guy" status in the eyes of the public after S3 of Mando, when he admitted that even he doesn't know where the plot should go.
 
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LORD IMPERATOR said:
I believe Andor fans called Filoni's shows the equivalent of "playing with action figures on the big screen". I've yet to see what Filoni fans think of Andor, but a few objectors to Andor in the mainstream call it slow as fuck.


Wait, what? I thought Favreau lost his "cool guy" status in the eyes of the public after S3 of Mando, when he admitted that even he doesn't know where the plot should go.
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He knew exactly where the plot should go. Lone Wolf and Cub which wrapped in season 2. Then pivot to other characters like Boba Fett, Ahsoka, FemmeMando and Muscle Tits which would have their own shows. Slice of life adventures as Mando doing bounty hunting.

Disney made him bring baby yoda back, fired Muscle Tits, ruined Fett by focing Baby Yoda into it, and required FemmeMando be given the Mando show via subversion because they knew that a show with just her would do worse than Ahsoka.

Rather than ruin a business relationship with Disney that earns millions to fight over Kennedy Star Wars, he washed his hands of it.
 
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namelesstacotruck said:
He knew exactly where the plot should go. Lone Wolf and Cub which wrapped in season 2. Then pivot to other characters like Boba Fett, Ahsoka, FemmeMando and Muscle Tits which would have their own shows. Slice of life adventures as Mando doing bounty hunting.

Disney made him bring baby yoda back, fired Muscle Tits, ruined Fett by focing Baby Yoda into it, and required FemmeMando be given the Mando show via subversion because they knew that a show with just her would do worse than Ahsoka.

Rather than ruin a business relationship with Disney that earns millions to fight over Kennedy Star Wars, he washed his hands of it.
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I miss Muscle Tits, she was the first female character in a modern day show who didn’t look ridiculous performing hand to hand combat with men, plus she was rather easy on the eyes.
 
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Doctor of Autism said:
I guarantee this was added so Dave's clone trooper OCs can't die.
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Nah, Dave could make them survive either way. The inhibitor chips were so Filoni didn't have to struggle with interesting character drama of his OCs still following the order to kill the jedi even after building relationships for them, so that Order 66 can be a blameless and clean affair where all the characters can wipe their hands clean with 'Oh, don't worry, mind control made me do it'.
Ghostse said:
I want you to think about this; Imagine a story about a clone who has a great relationship with his Jedi general to the point he warns them about Order 66 and joins them going on the run. The clone has to bite back, resisting with every ounce of their being the issued kill order that they know is wrong but is so deep the urge to take a blaster to their friend's skull never stops and they dream about murdering their greatest friend.

And then realize that is totally lame compared to a story about just turning off the murder signal so we can have clones riding wolves and following a stronk orange girl into the space-time anus.
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Battlefront 2 outdid the entirety of Clone Wars in one monologue.
 
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TheAmbiguousLurker said:
Nah, Dave could make them survive either way. The inhibitor chips were so Filoni didn't have to struggle with interesting character drama of his OCs still following the order to kill the jedi even after building relationships for them, so that Order 66 can be a blameless and clean affair where all the characters can wipe their hands clean with 'Oh, don't worry, mind control made me do it'.

Battlefront 2 outdid the entirety of Clone Wars in one monologue.
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Indeed.

 
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The Gene Genie said:
I like Andor.
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I'm........OK with it. The political shit is fine, especially the ISB guys and Mon Mothma playing this game of hide-and-seek with Luthen as some wild card in between, but it just made the Rebellion seem worse than it was. Especially when the Empire was apparently chilling out and not even patrolling the worlds under its domain, leaving them to lax corporate or local authorities who didn't really butt in on people's lives. Notice how even having corpo-cops go to Ferrix was supposedly a rare occurrence. If the Rebels didn't mug the Empire, the Empire would've probably continued to calm down due to the lack of any solid threats. The old Rebellion rose to power because the Empire was just so horribly tyrannical, whereas the Empire in Andor only became tyrannical because the Rebels stole their lunch money.

That, and the idea that this is the first SW show to explore how the normies live is quite possibly, preposterous. We saw how normies lived in ANH with Luke and Han's lives. The first six hours of KOTOR are spent on Taris, and all you do there is interact with people who work in their daily lives with barely any interference from the Jedi or the Sith. So when people say that Andor was their first glimpse into the lives of Star Wars' plebian class, my response is that they're rusty with Star Wars. This isn't anything new.
 
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Screamer_2 said:
However, it was central to the fall of Anikin and his redemption. His attachment to his mother, unable to save her. Lead him to the darkside. He wanted the power to never let his family die again. In the end he learnt he can save his family with out seeking that power.
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Besides, it helped to remind us that every monster starts as an innocent child.
 
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Registration said:
There is a comic adaptation of the mandalorian tv series, does it change anything or improve it or it is just disney goyslop for consumers?
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The only thing I know about the Blando comics is that, like many of the SW titles put out by Marvel, it's selling terribly.

The new #1 issue that began the series' adaptation of Season 2 of the show made its debut at 38th place in the sales charts back in June, rotting in the same pit of neglect as High Republic and Doctor Aphra issues. And just when things couldn't get any worse, August would see Issue #2 of the series drop...to 121st place for the month, diving even lower than Doctor Aphra.

That's right, folks. The enthusiasm for Blando has been so utterly eviscerated that his comics are now officially doing worse than Doctor fucking Aphra.
 
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Uranus Pink said:
If there's a plus to this self-inflicted comedy of unforced errors, is Furloni destroying the pedestal the Mandalorians had been sitting upon for almost forty years. Something that had been impervious to all attempts at damaging it since Boba's first appearance.
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Not that people haven't tried.

Lucas consistently portrayed the Mandos as scum; the TCW warrior Mandos (early in the show's history when Lucas still had some influence) are Space Jihadists who kill innocent people and terrorize civilians, a far cry from the heroes that Filoni will turn them into later. Whereas the movie-verse Fett Mandos are guns for hire who work with Sith Lords and criminal scum; they have no problems trying to kill innocent people, (LOL Padme) and always die like chumps. (Boba vs. blind Han, Jango vs. Windu)

Revan took down the Mandos at their best, when they had an empire of their own, turning them into a civilization of bandits and has-beens, and Kreia spends a short while shitting on them.

SWTOR had them lose to pirates and grunts in the lore videos, while the game proper just has them be mauve-shirts for the Republic characters to smack around.

Legacy had them get annihilated in the Battle of Botajef by a bunch of Stormtroopers, dudes that the Empire scraped off the streets and handed plastic armor and guns to. This is the last proper battle the Mandalorians have in SW Legends, which means their military history as a whole ends in shame.

But I suppose making the titular Mando go full "MUH KWEEN" did the trick, eh? Nothing like reminding them of another bad series to make them lose their taste for the Mandalorians. That probably did more damage than Jack Black and Lizzo. People were interested in seeing their hero, Mando, become king of his own people, and he chickens out and passes it over to a former terrorist who already failed at ruling multiple times.
 
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Doctor of Autism said:
At this point I think Furloni did as much damage to the Star Wars Brand as Iger.
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To be fair, Iger put him on a leadership position after the Sequels tanked. It's still his responsibility.

If it were me, I'd have nuked the sequels, and brought in Chris Avellone, Timothy Zahn, James Luceno, Drew Karpyshyn, Haden Blackman, and Kevin J. Anderson, with George Lucas overseeing things from a consultant position. Favreau can do his Mando stuff as a side-project, and Filoni can still do kiddie shit on the side, but Lucas will be there to tard-wrangle them and keep Filoni's worst instincts in check, like killing off Maul or having Thrawn lose to the SW equivalent of the Scooby-Doo gang. If Rebels didn't remove them from the chessboard, they could've been used in some big-name movie projects. Hell, if the Sequels had Maul and Thrawn working together, Thrawn as the face of the new Empire and Maul as the shadowy puppetmaster behind it all, it would've worked. Especially since TCW established that Sidious did train Maul to do more than just stab people or levitate rocks.
 
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LORD IMPERATOR said:
To be fair, Iger put him on a leadership position after the Sequels tanked. It's still his responsibility.

If it were me, I'd have nuked the sequels, and brought in Chris Avellone, Timothy Zahn, James Luceno, Drew Karpyshyn, Haden Blackman, and Kevin J. Anderson, with George Lucas overseeing things from a consultant position. Favreau can do his Mando stuff as a side-project, and Filoni can still do kiddie shit on the side, but Lucas will be there to tard-wrangle them and keep Filoni's worst instincts in check, like killing off Maul or having Thrawn lose to the SW equivalent of the Scooby-Doo gang. If Rebels didn't remove them from the chessboard, they could've been used in some big-name movie projects. Hell, if the Sequels had Maul and Thrawn working together, Thrawn as the face of the new Empire and Maul as the shadowy puppetmaster behind it all, it would've worked. Especially since TCW established that Sidious did train Maul to do more than just stab people or levitate rocks.
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I'm sick of Darth Maul. Fuck that shit.
 
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