2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

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I was maybe naively expecting attacks by Hamas to keep happening since there was all this notion that "it's different this time" but it seems like that was it? Do these guys have a plan besides that first day and then hiding in their tunnels?


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Some prominent fringe-left groups like chapters of the Democratic Socialists of America, are shamelessly expressing support for Hamas’s murderous attacks in the name of “resistance” and “liberation.

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Is this the first time the phrase "far-left" has ever been used by the ADL?
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
This is one of the top special forces units in the IDF.


I'll answer their torah based argument with a torah based argument.

Hamas and the Palestinians are what are known as Rodef (pursuer). A rodef is someone you know is on the way to kill someone else and was warned not to do it, once you warned him you are obligated to kill him in order to save another persons life. This is just to save someone else's life. We now established that if we know someone is going to kill someone else, we have the religious right to kill him once we warned him.

The Talmud says “If someone comes to kill you, rise up and kill him first.” You have a responsibility to protect yourself. We now established that you need to protect yourself.


Putting aside all their other arguments about Zionism, anti zionism, whatever (although it's worth noting that even traditionally anti zionist groups like the Satmar jews are now helping out Israel by donating supplies), we have a legitimate Halachic reason to go to war in order to save lives and protect ourselves.
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And why are they rodef? Would they be rodef if the Jews lived in Palestine instead of Israel? The truth is that the Zionists need Antisemitism to have a reason to exist, so they must create rodef. You've fallen for it. Rely on HaShem, not man-made heresies. It's never too late to do teshuvah.
 
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reptile baht spaniard rid said:
The question is can your stockpile of massive bombs reduce their stockpile of infantry.

Blowing shit up is easy, as the USA has shown multiple times.

Holding hostile territory is a fucking pain in the ass, as the USA has shown multiple times.
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Well, I really the Ukraine war is a good example of why infantry is important. If you just Thanos snapped infantry out of existence, this would have been one of the shortest wars in history. Russia has an overwhelming advantage in air, armor, and artillery assets. One of the reasons it's been such a slow slog though is because Ukrainian infantry is dug in like ticks, and occupies places which are difficult to advance upon. In the US army, infantry is called the "queen of battle" because like the chess piece, it can go anywhere. Ironically I think one of the main reasons the US has such an abysmal modern military track record is that it massively under invests in its infantry. I certainly think that if the US had of had a larger infantry force in Afghanistan that wasn't so tied to FOBs, it could have completely locked down some key strategic locations and made it very difficult for the Taliban to operate effectively. If you look at the current war in Israel, one of the reasons Hamas can't just do what the Taliban did is because they're locked down and don't have a lot of freedom of movement. That's not because Israel has a great infantry force, it's because it has more infantry than what's really needed to do this.
 
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Protistology said:
And why are they rodef? Would they be rodef if the Jews lived in Palestine instead of Israel? The truth is that the Zionists need Antisemitism to have a reason to exist, so they must create rodef. You've fallen for it. Rely on HaShem, not man-made heresies. It's never too late to do teshuvah.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre

yes they would be. Palestinian attitudes towards jews have always been negative and there are plenty of unprompted massacres by them during the Mandate and even before.
 
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Akashic Retard said:
I was maybe naively expecting attacks by Hamas to keep happening since there was all this notion that "it's different this time" but it seems like that was it? Do these guys have a plan besides that first day and then hiding in their tunnels?



Is this the first time the phrase "far-left" has ever been used by the ADL?
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The "far-left" part of the article is only stated in a promotional image in a tweet while the article itself uses "fringe-left" in the title which is interesting. Maybe there was some internal debate over whichever phrasing to use.
 
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Akashic Retard said:
I was maybe naively expecting attacks by Hamas to keep happening since there was all this notion that "it's different this time" but it seems like that was it? Do these guys have a plan besides that first day and then hiding in their tunnels?
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The element of surprise ran out, there's no point in new attacks, unless Hezbolla joins the server. The role of HAMAS and Gaza inhabitants is literally to die in the most scenic way possible and become a symbol for the entire Arab world. Dead Palestinians don't start civil wars in your country, unlike Palestinian refugees, so it's easier to simp for them if they're dead.
 
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Bukke Bruse said:
The thread is moving so incredibly fast, so apologies if this has been posted already. But from the Israel Xitter (fck I hate that name)

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No no, those aren’t the right kind of dead babies. Fucking Jews jewing everything again, inshallah

Akashic Retard said:
I was maybe naively expecting attacks by Hamas to keep happening since there was all this notion that "it's different this time" but it seems like that was it? Do these guys have a plan besides that first day and then hiding in their tunnels?
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If they did, wouldn’t they have thought out the optics a little bit better?

Hamas has a problem with the depth of its gene pool, you know.
 
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FatalTater said:
Why is it that entertainers and other mostly useless folk feel the need to even state who they support in things? Staying quiet is free, and it's less effort to not post stuff online. Am I missing something?
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Virtue Signaling. "Look at me, I'm on the right side of history! Look what a good person I am! Free Ukraine, Free Palestine or whatever!"

Also they MUST show their support because the left taught them that silence is literally violence.
 
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