2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

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So anybody want popcorn when the "Day of Jihad" is a huge nothingburger, and Israel fucking flattens everything in northern Gaza? I'm guessing Israel wants Hamas to start putting their shit in the north to fight the Zionists, and Israel basically kills them all without moving a single soldier in.
Based on the context of the word Jihad, it's garaunteed to be a nothing burger. It was a call to civic action.
Edit: The protests still need to be shunned and denounced. They will be used to show Gazans that the world in some way approves of Hamas.
 
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Kuwait was after all a corrupt dictatorial monarchy that had provoked the invasion by outright stealing billions in Iraqi oil.

Small quibble:
Kuwait didn't steal Iraqi oil.
Kuwait (and Saudi Arabia) loaned Saddam huge sums of money to bankroll his war with Iran. Saddam wanted to become a Arab Charlemange/Bolivar, a person who united various tribes of a people into one, and he wanted to do that by beating the Persians. The war ended in a stalemate, but Kuwait and SA wanted to be paid back, becasue they never asked to be united with the other Arabs, and interest on the loans was ruinous, especially with sanctions. So it was "siezed because loan payments not being made" not "stolen".
But Saddam still had all the soldiers and weapons those loans had bought, so he decided to use them to try to fix his problem.

The Iraqi Invasion was intended to take Kuwait wholesale (thus eliminating their debt obligations there) and then intimidate Saudi Arabia into a level Debt Forgiveness. Saudi Arabia however had been trading oil for American Goodwill for nearly two decades at that point and decided to cash in one of their chits with the US instead of bartering with Saddam.

The rest of your post is completely accurate (well, except Iraq had WMDs, they chemical weaponed the kurds remember. Just all their store were gay and worthless by 2003) but Iraq wasn't some good boy dindu nuffin.
 
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I'm stoned as balls and tired as hell so I'll throw my opinion on the shitpile, too.

Its just all so much normmcdonaldmeme.jpg. I just don't much care, beyond the spectacle. Two sides fighting, two sides expect me to care about them, but neither side gives a fuck about me, so fuck it. I'm getting sick of being expected to care about all this shit that doesn't affect me, that involves people who shit on me, my way of life, or my very blood, people who want to impose their values and way of life on me. So... I just don't fucking care. The best part of all of this, to me, is all the mask drops I'm seeing on social media, all the backbiting and infighting, the people who "do the cancelling" getting a taste of what they've unleashed on countless others. Its not like I needed the help losing my faith in humanity, I lost that long ago.

Its just kinda validating, to use a term I loathe, for obvious reasons. But to run with it, I guess what I'm trying to say is, I sexually identify as someone who didn't just start paying attention yesterday because that's when shit started to impact my life, and I get my euphoria boners from seeing all the petty ugliness come to the surface in the open among hypocrites and charlatans.

But fuck England for causing all this horseshit in the first place. I'm just gonna watch the spectacle, have some smoke, and look out for myself and mine.

Fuck me. That was really cathartic, and I sorely needed some catharsis.
 
Holy shit I hope this is true. Absolute dumb motherfuckers. Niggos in Africa are smarter than this and have more of a survival instinct than these morons. Also, them hostages be dead n' shieet.
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It's real. Hostages also really dead.
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So is anyone going to talk about the elephant in the room about the staggering amount of voices in academia that excused the murder and rape of innocent civilians in Israel at the concert (even blamed them)? And how one could easily see that translating to us having a massive problem on our own soil if America were ever to get attacked again? Like these same people would not only cheer on another 9/11, but at this point they'd sell out their own countrymen to virtue signal and would trip over themselves to unlock the barricaded door to the proverbial Christian school for the Hamas to shoot up. And then berate the surviving parents that they brought this upon themselves.

How the fuck did it get so bad?
 
Holy shit I hope this is true. Absolute dumb motherfuckers. Niggos in Africa are smarter than this and have more of a survival instinct than these morons. Also, them hostages be dead n' shieet.
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"Fake propaganda." They just want to get their citizens killed, don't they? (Rhetorical question; obviously they do.)
 
So is anyone going to talk about the elephant in the room about the staggering amount of voices in academia that excused the murder and rape of innocent civilians in Israel at the concert (even blamed them)? And how one could easily see that translating to us having a massive problem on our own soil if America were ever to get attacked again? Like these same people would not only cheer on another 9/11, but at this point they'd sell out their own countrymen to virtue signal and would trip over themselves to unlock the barricaded door to the proverbial Christian school for the Hamas to shoot up. And then berate the surviving parents that they brought this upon themselves.

How the fuck did it get so bad?

Because the people at the concert looked white.

These are people who have been raised their entire lives to believe white people are the devil and deserve any evil directed towards them.

innocent browns dindu nuffin they just oppressed n shieet and did it to fix colonialism.

It's a monster made by the jews, and it's turning on the jews.
 

Virgin Centrist position vs Chad Centrist position:

It's absolutely reasonable and logical to support both Israel and Hamas in their treatment of each other.
Not only does fewer Israelis mean fewer tax dollars to Israel and fewer Hamas terrorists fewer terrorists in the world, but these two groups are after all fighting for a land and a place with deep history and meaning to them both. They are in a true battle for survival, for dominance, a war that actually isn't (only) over some geopolitical plays, deepstate plots or the elites and their financial bets. Unlike the Russians and Ukranians they know what they are killing and dying for, and if anything that's worth something.

Neither civilian population is innocent, though people suffering from collateral damage or targeted attacks may be.
Both populations support violent and antagonistic factions that rule them, both people contentiously antagonize each other and call each other subhuman. The days of the happy 90' s are over for everyone, including the Palestinians and Israelis. The continued siege and blockade of Gaza and the constant attacks of desperation it provokes causes more suffering than one swift war does whether we're talking about the indiscriminate killings Hamas performs or the indiscriminate bombing Israel is conducting.
 
So is anyone going to talk about the elephant in the room about the staggering amount of voices in academia that excused the murder and rape of innocent civilians in Israel at the concert (even blamed them)? And how one could easily see that translating to us having a massive problem on our own soil if America were ever to get attacked again? Like these same people would not only cheer on another 9/11, but at this point they'd sell out their own countrymen to virtue signal and would trip over themselves to unlock the barricaded door to the proverbial Christian school for the Hamas to shoot up. And then berate the surviving parents that they brought this upon themselves.

How the fuck did it get so bad?

Its been this bad for decades, the difference is you are now noticing.

have some reading.
 
Looks like the plan is to expel all 2 million to Egypt. First concentrate them in the South then make the situation so bad, Egypt has to bow to pressure and let them out.

Gaza is doomed. The Western leaders are talking about a "proportional" response whereas in the past they stressed 10x that IDF should avoid civilian casualties. The German defence minister didn't even bother to ask Israel to show restraint. The Chancellor didn't either. He was basically like they get all the ammo and guns they want and the rest we don't care. Both a proportional response and acting according to the rules of war doesn't stop Israel from solving the issue once and for all.

The only hope would be bleeding heart Europe, the problem here is that a lot of countries including Germany are drifting to the right and let's put it politely Muslims aren't that well regarded anymore outside the academic left. The riots that will 100% happen across Europe will not improve the opinion of Muslims either.

TLDR: They are fucked.

Edit: I also can't help but feel that Hamas officially saying that the civilians shouldn't evacuate is an unforced blunder (especially since I don't get how it helps their image in the Arab world either). The vast majority of people in the West (thankfully) don't want to see thousands or tens of thousands of dead civilians. Hamas has given them an emotional out when Israel goes to town because they can just rationalise "well Israel warned them but evil hamas didn't let them go".
 
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Gaza is doomed. The Western leaders are talking about a "proportional" response whereas in the past they stressed 10x that IDF should avoid civilian casualties. The German defence minister didn't even bother to ask Israel to show restraint. The Chancellor didn't either. He was basically like they get all the ammo and guns they want and the rest we don't care. Both a proportional response and acting according to the rules of war doesn't stop Israel from solving the issue once and for all.

It echoes whats being allowed on air.

 
Why do some journalist keep bringing that up? I am not aware of a single law of war that forces you to feed and supply enemy civilians in (!) enemy territory. I also can't really think of any examples in history (police actions pseudo wars don't count). I think in late WW2 the Americans provided food for the Netherlands but that were allied civilians in German occupied territory.
It's only after you occupy the territory that it becomes your responsibility again.
 
Israel will get all the trade and money it wants

I mean at this point I'm actually going to look aside as the Israelis do that.

Anyways, I have zero pity for the humanitarian situation in Gaza. Israel at least gives them a warning, not something they ever afforded the civilians they brutally murdered. I doubt I will loose any sleep over this Gaza remodeling project.

I can't quote this next person:

"I still feel for the innocents but these people really are truly retarded. They just keep making the worst possible decisions and then sit there Surprised-Pikachu-style seeming totally baffled by why their home is being flattened and the rest of the world doesn’t care enough to do anything. This is all of your own making, dipshits. Should’ve thought this shit through a little."

If we all co-sign giving Israel what it has always wanted, which is to expand its borders, then who's to say they wont continue to move their goalposts? Do you think the Jewish run media and the ADL are going to stop berating us about racism if we turn the other cheek and allow Palestinians to be expelled?


The ultranationalists that see themselves as the chosen ones, don't see neocons as anything other than political pawns, and anyone else who defends them as useful idiots.

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No matter how racist Israelis are, you will continue to be told that racism is bad when YOU do it, and continue to receive diversity in your advertising and the movies you pay to watch and in the recommended videos of the adult sites that you browse.

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These are people who have been raised their entire lives to believe white people are the devil and deserve any evil directed towards them.

I hope all those stanning for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza are paid actors, because if not then they are even more retarded than the paragliders who gave Israel an excuse to purge.


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