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A Christian Group Is Promoting An Alternative To Halloween — 'JesusWeen' Where People Wear White & Pass Out Bibles​

It's not uncommon for some religions to avoid celebrating Halloween, but one Christian group has taken it a step further and decided to create a brand new holiday instead! Coined "JesusWeen," they don white outfits instead of costumes and pass out bibles instead of candy.

TikToker Jordan the Grey Witch brought the new version of Halloween to light after sharing the tale of a Canadian Evangelical Christian group that decided trick-or-treating was "ungodly" and rife with "evil characters."

A Christian group in Texas created 'Jesusween' as an alternative to celebrating Halloween.​

Believing that Halloween does not "align with Christianity," the pastor and founder of "JesusWeen," Paul Ade, promotes celebrating the fall festivities with more ministry-based fun. In addition to their white garments and bibles, participants are encouraged to spread the message of Jesus door to door instead of trick-or-treating.

Jordan the Grey Witch was quick to point out the hypocrisy of "JesusWeen." She argued, "They're hijacking Halloween to make it about them, even though they don't celebrate it. But the LGBTQ are the ones shoving their beliefs down everyone's throats."

More than any other Protestant sects of Christianity, Evangelicals are open about their conservative stance on many social issues, notably abortion and LGBTQ+ rights, believing that religion, specifically their doctrine, should influence political and legislative decisions. So, yeah. Jordan makes a good point.

Why is Halloween frowned upon by Evangelicals?​

The origins of Halloween are debatable. It has its roots in an ancient Celtic festival called "Samhain." The pagan religious celebration was meant to usher in the fall harvest, and was often celebrated with bonfires and alters filled with fall-harvested fruits, like apples and pumpkins. Not much different than many of our current fall festivals. Even costumes can be traced back to the Celtic tradition as a way to keep ghosts and evil spirits at bay that were thought to roam during the transition of seasons.

But the intersection of Halloween and Christianity can also be traced back to the Middle Ages. Trick-or-treating may have been part of a Christian tradition from medieval times; the poor showed up on the doorsteps of the rich the day before All Saints' Day — a day known as Hallowtide. The trick-or-treaters offered prayer in exchange for food and drink.

Religions are mixed on whether they embrace Halloween or shun it altogether.​

I went to a Baptist church as a child, and every year, we dressed up for Halloween and collected candy, bobbed for apples, and even made our way through a "haunted house" constructed especially for the holiday. It was viewed as harmless fun for kids and a way to provide them with a safe environment to celebrate at the height of the candy tampering hype.

Still, some religious institutions see Halloween as a pagan holiday promoting the celebration and glorification of evil spirits. They try their best to guard their children from the demonic spirits they believe are more prevalent than usual on that day. Other churches call it a "Fall Festival" and invite the entire family for a night of connection and community.

Whether you choose to celebrate Halloween or not, it's your choice. You have the autonomy and insight to decide what is best for you. One thing that we can do collectively, however, is not be bothered by the fun others are having on Halloween — even if it's not your cup of tea. Instead of being grumpy or judgmental, simply turn your porch light off.

 

[Super Guido]

Stupid sexy kids!

Couldn't agree more. I am enjoying in my imagination a situation where the family piles into the SUV with boxes of bibles and heads off to the neighbourhood the church gave them to canvass, but it ends up being like a predomenantly Muslim (or something) neighbourhood and they don't even celebrate Halloween *and* they're already super religeous but just a different religeon.

Do I want to imagine what would happen to Christians proselytizing in an area full of devout Muslims?

Maybe they'll get a few Aloha Snackbars for Halloween.

 

[Jason Wynn]

Not reading through the entire thread so apologies if it was mentioned already, but King of the Hill did exactly that in one of their earlier episodes with the Bible thumping church lady influencing Luanne. It was retarded and gay 20+ years ago and it’s retarded and gay now.

 

[OrionBalls]

Stupid sexy kids!

Couldn't agree more. I am enjoying in my imagination a situation where the family piles into the SUV with boxes of bibles and heads off to the neighbourhood the church gave them to canvass, but it ends up being like a predomenantly Muslim (or something) neighbourhood and they don't even celebrate Halloween *and* they're already super religeous but just a different religeon.

Weird aside. We were recently donated about fifty copies of the Zohar from some very nice group in CA. Despite the fact that only one person in our entire congregation can read Hebrew, and no one knows Aramaic. On a slightly more happy note, they also donated several pallets of "water imbued with intention" for people to drink. That disappeared quickly. Saved one for the weird water bottles collection.

 

[Dr. Hannibal Buress]

Do I want to imagine what would happen to Christians proselytizing in an area full of devout Muslims?

Maybe they'll get a few Aloha Snackbars for Halloween.

Normally I imagine there would be insults, rocks, and maybe an ass beating or two, but at this moment in time 99% of Muslims in the areas where there would be a "JesusWeen" want to keep their heads down and not draw any heat, because local authorities wouldn't side with "those hamas sympathizers"

 

[SpergioLeonne]

We need Halloween to vent our spooky sides. Idk that it’s good to try to be 100% Boy Scout 100% of the time, seems over-taxing and imbalanced.

 

[moms sock drawer]

Weird aside. We were recently donated about fifty copies of the Zohar from some very nice group in CA. Despite the fact that only one person in our entire congregation can read Hebrew, and no one knows Aramaic. On a slightly more happy note, they also donated several pallets of "water imbued with intention" for people to drink. That disappeared quickly. Saved one for the weird water bottles collection.

What intention did they imbue into it?? You can't just be drinking water imbued with unknown intentions now.

 

[Mr Bunny]

That's some cringe as shit, and I just got done reading how some jews want to jerk off their dead husband for their sperm.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

What intention did they imbue into it?? You can't just be drinking water imbued with unknown intentions now.

They intended to imbue intention. Or turn you into a newt.

 

[Mothra1988]

Not really. The Jews aren't God's Chosen people.

They are. They are in the Catholic church, they are in all Orthodox churches, they are in the Lutheran Church, the Anglican church, and every single legit protestant denomination. You are so confused about theology, it's embarrassing. What you are badly misinterpreting is that the New Covenant which does not, and I repeat does not, say Jews do not matter and is not meant to make the Old Testament moot. Here's a relevant Jesus quote since you failed to produce one:

17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Here's another good one from Revelation regarding New Jerusalem:

12 It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel.

I don't want to get into the autistic/wrong Catholic views on Revelation, but John definitely wrote this after the crucifixion, so yeah, it's scripture you have to take seriously.

Overall, you're on some anti-Christian bullshit you unwittingly filtered into your head from places like /pol/ and yes the Nick Fuentes catboy party (that tried to combine nazi shit with Catholocism) and are currently thrashing about because I pointed out your cognitive dissonance. These ideas you absorbed are toxic. Thinking it's okay if the jews are slaughtered and Jerusalem, where Christ was crucified, destroyed again is okay is some anti-Christ shit, even if rabbinic jews are currently wrong on Christ and should change their minds. Get a better grip on theology and things like prophecy, because the idea jews should be discarded after the council you cited decided entirely by jews is insane.

I'm not always going to talk to you right away. I have important IRL things to do. It's very retardrd to think that sperging on the Internet about something that has zero consequence is important enough to shoot off a message ASAP, unless you are some sort of retarded NEET with no sense of responsibility. Also, you don't dissect words. You go histrionic rants that last for too long and say nothing of substance or blatantly ignore what I said and you don't even bother to use very authoritative sources to back them up. And you're jokes are shit if you think that angry rants are funny. Learn to make jokes like anorm McDonald if you want people to laugh.

That's a lot of words for being mad that this interaction didn't turn out like it did in your mind. lol Are you going to claim Christ and John aren't authoritative sources now? If my jokes are so bad, they sure made you have a nuclear sperg out. LOL.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

They are. They are in the Catholic church, they are in all Orthodox churches, they are in the Lutheran Church, the Anglican church, and every single legit protestant denomination. You are so confused about theology, it's embarrassing. What you are badly misinterpreting is that the New Covenant which does not, and I repeat does not, say Jews do not matter and is not meant to make the Old Testament moot. Here's a relevant Jesus quote since you failed to produce one:

You literally ignored the rest of my post in regards to how the whole point of the New Covenant was to make all of mankind God's people, not just the Jews. You also ignored the parts of the Bible that explicitly say the Judaizing is sinful. (which is literally all of Acts 15, so I'll just post a link) Good job not only misconstruing my point, but answering something that is extremely tangential and shows how you tend to argue in bad faith.

17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Jesus Christ came to fulfill the Mosaic Law. Part of fulfilling it means spreading the Law to the Gentiles, which is dealt with when the first Apostles go all over the world, to India, Rome, Greece, Persia, Syria, etc. to spread the Gospel. It's not about the dietary restrictions and the other things that also encompass Jewish Law hence Christ himself saying:

11 What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.”

12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?”

13 He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14 Leave them; they are blind guides.[a] If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”

15 Peter said, “Explain the parable to us.”

16 “Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. 17 “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.”

(Matthew 15:11-20)

Here's another good one from Revelation regarding New Jerusalem: ...

Revelation is very clearly a highly metaphorical book of the Bible, probably the most out of all the books of the Bible. It's no surprise that a 1st century Jewish man would talk about the 12 tribes of Israel being inscribed on the gates of Heaven. Whether it is literal or not, it's not really proof that the Jews have that same unique status as God's chosen people so much as it is St. John the Baptist's vision of Heaven.

Overall, you're on some anti-Christian bullshit you unwittingly filtered into your head from places like /pol/ and yes the Nick Fuentes catboy party (that tried to combine nazi shit with Catholocism) and are currently thrashing about because I pointed out your cognitive dissonance.

What cognitive dissonance? I'm not a Nazi. That should be very clear seeing as I named my username after a Jewish guy who had both of his parents suffer in the Holocaust then move to Canada after they survived and I fully recognize that most of the people in the Bible (including Jesus Christ, the Living Image of God) was a Jew. Not to mention I work in the STEM field, so there's a lot of Jewish mathematicians and physicists that I respect like Feynman, von Neumann, etc. It's kinda retarded to think I genuinely hate Jews when I just say that their status as God's Chosen people isn't only theirs, but belongs to all of humanity via Christ's crucifixion. HOW ANTI-SEMETIC and RACIST. Maybe you should read a theology book or two from of the Church Fathers or Aquinas or something. That is essentially what you are supposed to believe as a Christian, no matter what stripe you are. If you don't believe that, you aren't a real Christian.

These ideas you absorbed are toxic. Thinking it's okay if the jews are slaughtered and Jerusalem, where Christ was crucified, destroyed again is okay is some anti-Christ shit, even if rabbinic jews are currently wrong on Christ and should change their minds.

I never said that nor have I ever thought that. I don't like the STATE of Israel and how a lot of conservative types overly praise it when it has done horrendous things before, even to the US like in the USS Liberty incident, but I have nothing against Jews in general. There are some very nice Jewish people, there are some down right inhospitable Jewish people and most are in between, like any other ethnic group. They are two separate entities that are related but not the same and I don't even hate Israeli citizens, just the government. Again, you are putting words in my mouth I never said. Please point to where I said that.

Get a better grip on theology and things like prophecy, because the idea jews should be discarded after the council you cited decided entirely by jews is insane.

I do. I can read the Bible and I found the passages that explicitly state that Judaizing is a fucking sin. Everything you posted here (and in general) is just a rambly mess of nonsense strung together by BPD and an unstable worldview.

That's a lot of words for being mad that this interaction didn't turn out like it did in your mind.

I'm not mad. This isn't Something Awful where you pretend you epically own people by pretending they are mad at your lazy post.

lol Are you going to claim Christ and John aren't authoritative sources now?

They are. You just posted a non-sequitur that had nothing to do with the conversation. The fact that you think this is evidence for your point that the Jews are the ONLY Chosen people, even in the New Covenant, is actually rather pathetic and right on point for your average "conservative intellectual".

If my jokes are so bad, they sure made you have a nuclear sperg out. LOL.

Again with that really old trope of pretending you are trolling people by acting like an idiot. I personally don't know you nor care about you. This conversation is only happening because I am compiling something and it's taking a long time to finish. I like to kill time by shitposting.

 

[A-Stump]

This is a good way to get sodomized on Halloween

 

[Mothra1988]

You literally ignored the rest of my post in regards to how the whole point of the New Covenant was to make all of mankind God's people, not just the Jews. You also ignored the parts of the Bible that explicitly say the Judaizing is sinful. (which is literally all of Acts 15, so I'll just post a link) Good job not only misconstruing my point, but answering something that is extremely tangential and shows how you tend to argue in bad faith.

Judaizing, you extrme fucking retard of epic proportions, is a word that refers to forcing things like circiumcision and dietary restirctions onto gentiles. Can you read that sentence and properly contexualize? No where does it say that Jews can no longer do these things, becuase all the apostles certainly did, and they founded all the churches. It was about gentiles getting a pass on certain things if they were baptized, had faith, etc., not that they were suddenly superior to jews like Jesus who lived as jews.

Also you literally said Jesus said this about gentiles (not just dunking on the Pharisees). I want to see a quote. You don't have one. I can think of a parable you might try to reference if you were smart, but you won't because you're a college student creeping on girls in your anime club in over your head.

Again, the decisions of the Jerusalem council (yeah the Jerusalem you think is shit apparently) regarded circumcision and dietary restrictions FOR gentiles after a debate that involved Paul, Peter and James, son of Mary. The extremely Jewish James who prayed at the 2nd Temple every day made the decision. Where was the decision reached that Jews are not God's chosen people? You have nothing other than whatever the confused garbage is in your head. The New Covenant expanded to include gentiles, it didn't refute Jesus's teachings which were rooted directly in the Old Testament. Judeasim isn't just a religion, it's an ethnic blood line, you know the one that produced all the prophets and Jesus. So yeah, shut up dude.

And crying about bad faith arguments after you threw a fit before you came back is rich. Hahaha.

Jesus Christ came to fulfill the Mosaic Law. Part of fulfilling it means spreading the Law to the Gentiles, which is dealt with when the first Apostles go all over the world, to India, Rome, Greece, Persia, Syria, etc. to spread the Gospel. It's not about the dietary restrictions and the other things that also encompass Jewish Law hence Christ himself saying:

Again, heere's hard mode for you, pull some quotes from Jesus about gentiles that back up yoru argument. Everyone knows the Phraisees were bad stop repeating it like denouncing the Pharaisees applies to the entire jewish ethnicity.

Revelation is very clearly a highly metaphorical book of the Bible, probably the most out of all the books of the Bible. It's no surprise that a 1st century Jewish man would talk about the 12 tribes of Israel being inscribed on the gates of Heaven. Whether it is literal or not, it's not really proof that the Jews have that same unique status as God's chosen people so much as it is St. John the Baptist's vision of Heaven.

LOL now you are saying John was just a "1st century Jewish man." Revelation is scripture. John wrote it with the holy spirit working through him based on his visions. The fact you are just discounting now is ridiculous. This mirrors in some way Ezikiel's visions btw, and Jesus definitely used Ezikiel in his theology, but apparently jews don't matter! lol Exact kind of crap I would expect from an online tradcath fraud though.

What cognitive dissonance? I'm not a Nazi. That should be very clear seeing as I named my username after a Jewish guy who had both of his parents suffer in the Holocaust then move to Canada after they survived and I fully recognize that most of the people in the Bible (including Jesus Christ, the Living Image of God) was a Jew. Not to mention I work in the STEM field, so there's a lot of Jewish mathematicians and physicists that I respect like Feynman, von Neumann, etc. It's kinda retarded to think I genuinely hate Jews when I just say that their status as God's Chosen people isn't only theirs, but belongs to all of humanity via Christ's crucifixion. HOW ANTI-SEMETIC and RACIST. Maybe you should read a theology book or two from of the Church Fathers or Aquinas or something. That is essentially what you are supposed to believe as a Christian, no matter what stripe you are. If you don't believe that, you aren't a real Christian.

You are repeating filtered white nationalist talking points regarding jews, although admitedly it a very muted way that is designed to exccuse conflicts between white people and jews. You want to see what these people really think about Jesus, go on /pol/ where they're constantly debasing him as a "jew on a stick." The fact you like Rush or whatever is irrelavant. The crucifixion was about cleansing the sin of humanity, not changing the importance of the Davidic line.

I do. I can read the Bible and I found the passages that explicitly state that Judaizing is a fucking sin. Everything you posted here (and in general) is just a rambly mess of nonsense strung together by BPD and an unstable worldview.

Gotta go to insults again becuase you're out of ammo. lol Fucking patheitc. Paul criticizing Chrsitians trying to force circumcision on gentiles does not ment that Jersualem should be ran by Muslims, you cultural Catholic quasi-atheist. lol

Again with that really old trope of pretending you are trolling people by acting like an idiot. I personally don't know you nor care about you. This conversation is only happening because I am compiling something and it's taking a long time to finish. I like to kill time by shitposting.

Yeah, that's why you said you were leaving, but came back all right. Great cope. lol

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

Judaizing, you extrme fucking retard of epic proportions, is a word that refers to forcing things like circiumcision and dietary restirctions onto gentiles.

It's about treating Jewish customs and other things as sacrosanct in the New Covenant when they are null and void. Every single one of your arguments involves misconstruing, ignoring or deliberately lying about important details especially the ones where you fail basic reading comprehension and natural conclusions from arguments, something you lack a lot of. You get uppity, either lie or ignore an important point in the other person's argument, attack a strawman the other person wasn't even defending and then add lame insults as if that is some sort of win. You are the essence of what a retard looks like: someone who thinks more highly of themselves than the actually are. You are an actual idiot if you think that treating the state of Israel as some sort of God sanctioned place is biblical and Jews are magically super special now that Jesus has established His own Covenant that supersedes Moses' and saying otherwise is tantamount to anti-Semitism, not just what every Church Father and even the Apostles have fucking said for 2000 years. For fuck's sake, the one of the points of Christianity is to bring the Jews into the faith, not pretend that Mosaic Law is good enough for their salvation.

No where does it say that Jews can no longer do these things, becuase all the apostles certainly did, and they founded all the churches.

In Acts, Peter is literally told that the ceremonial kosher laws are null and void and they can eat "unclean" animals because they are Jews by birth but not by faith anymore . This is literally just basic research into this topic, nothing very deep. The fact you are too histrionic to actually look this up. The whole Road to Damascus story should have tipped you off towards that, but you are really stupid, so here's me spelling it out for you very explicitly.

It was about gentiles getting a pass on certain things if they were baptized, had faith, etc., not that they were suddenly superior to jews like Jesus who lived as jews.

It's about the Christ's Law superseding Moses' Law, in the sense that you don't have to be circumcised in the flesh or worry about what you eat past basic bodily maintenance. The whole point is that Christ's Law is better than Moses' Law. Again, I don't know how you can be a Christian and not objectively say this. Even as delusional as Muslims are, they understand the concept that their law is rooted in Mosaic law but "better" than it (which is about as fake and gay as their religion).

Also you literally said Jesus said this about gentiles (not just dunking on the Pharisees). I want to see a quote. You don't have one.

That's literally the entire point of critical reading: you make connections in the text that are readily apparent if you take the time to put 2 and 2 together. Jesus is saying what you eat isn't important for slavation+Peter's vision of the veil+Getting rid of circumcision as a prerequisite to conversion = the ritual dietary and other aspects of Mosiac law that don't deal directly with salvation have been superseded. I know the Bible is big book, but you can't possibly be this dense unless you are intentionally trying to be an idiot. This is shit that you can pick up very easily with a very surface level interpretation of the Bible.

I can think of a parable you might try to reference if you were smart, but you won't because you're a college student creeping on girls in your anime club in over your head.

And you're a lolbert lesbian that freaks out constantly about being raped to the point that you are barely literate, non-functional human being. Asking girls out isn't creeping on them, but having hissy fits over shit you don't understand on the Internet is a sign of mental illness and just general lack of mental sharpness to an acute degree.

LOL now you are saying John was just a "1st century Jewish man." Revelation is scripture. John wrote it with the holy spirit working through him based on his visions. The fact you are just discounting now is ridiculous.

These aren't contradicting realities. St. John the Baptist was born a Jew and became an Apostle that wrote the book of Revelations, just like St. Paul was a Jew that persecuted Christians before he became one and wrote most of the New Testament. Really pedantic and idiotic argument you are making here. St. John was both a man of Jewish origin that was inspired Holy Scripture in the form of Revalation. You really are grasping at straws aren't you?

This mirrors in some way Ezikiel's visions btw, and Jesus definitely used Ezikiel in his theology, but apparently jews don't matter! lol Exact kind of crap I would expect from an online tradcath fraud though.

I never said that Jews don't matter. Again, you have a bad habit of responding to shit you don't understand or deliberately misconstrue. I can't which is which but it really shows how lacking you are in any sort of intelligence. I said Jews weren't special in the New Covenant in the sense that they and all of mankind are recognized as God's children and likewise have the ability to be saved via Jesus Christ. Now please tell me how that translates to Jews aren't special when St. Paul says:

28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

(Galatians 3:28 )


which is exactly what I am saying? The Jews are still special in the sense that they have a central place in Salvation History, from the days of Abraham leaving Ur to Jesus being crucified, but that covenant is superseded by Christ's covenant to all of mankind. I really wonder how you can be a Christian when you think otherwise, but this is the type of retarded low-info nonsense I see in my parish and especially with a lot of Protestant people. Just people that have zero idea of what the Bible actually says and they spout shit like they are an authority on it.

You are repeating filtered white nationalist talking points regarding jews, although admitedly it a very muted way that is designed to exccuse conflicts between white people and jews

I am not. You are just paranoid and retarded. I stated what I believed in regarding Jewish people (Shit food but like any other group of people otherwise).In fact, why would I say it in a muted way on this website, where a good portion of the userbase openly hates all Jews? It's really fucking retarded to think I would mute myself on a free-speech absolutist's website. This isn't Twitter. Again, you are mentally unwell.

You want to see what these people really think about Jesus, go on /pol/ where they're constantly debasing him as a "jew on a stick."

I haven't been on /pol/ in like a decade now. It's a board filled with schizophrenics (like you) and retards that LARP about Odin. They are the definition of stupid. Used to be fun during the Can't Corner the Dorner Days, and it became a cesspool of idiots due to low-IQ, idiots sharing their stupid opinions and getting signal boosted by other idiots and feds. Why do you care what stupid people think unless you are stupid enough to be swayed by them?

The fact you like Rush or whatever is irrelavant.

When the leading of the band is open about his Jewish heritage and his family's experience with on of greatest genocides in history, not really. If I hated Jews, naturally, I'd hate the most visible member of this band. Again, you fail very basic logical reasoning.

The crucifixion was about cleansing the sin of humanity, not changing the importance of the Davidic line.

The only reason King David was important was because he was to be the ancestor of the Messiah, who was/is/will be Jesus Christ. Jews rejected Him and say some other political guy is the Messiah. Several pretenders who match the quals (being descended from King David) have tried and failed to become the Messiah. Basically, King David's lineage is only important as it related to Christ. The importance of the Davidic line is nothing outside of Him.

Gotta go to insults again becuase you're out of ammo. lol Fucking patheitc. Paul criticizing Chrsitians trying to force circumcision on gentiles does not ment that Jersualem should be ran by Muslims, you cultural Catholic quasi-atheist. lol

I never said anything should be run by Muslims, you illiterate. petulant, idiotic sodomite child of a whore and a drunkard who beat you instead of bothering to teach you anything of value. Please tell me where I said that faggot. If you can't, which you won't, stop putting fucking words in my mouth I never said. Israel is never going to be ran by Muslims. Even the non-Palestinian neighbors of Israel hate Palestine and cooperate with Israel to keep them in check because they are low-IQ barbarians (just like you) that can't build shit for shit and cause problems for everyone they encounter. I am entitled not to suck Israel's dick, which seems to be the only dick you like sucking, other than the uncle clearly molested you due to your constant infantile and moronic takes on pretty much everything. Inb4 I'm a creep for saying this. You're a lesbian. All lesbians were molested by some man in their life, especially the violent ones.
You can call me whatever you want. I'm not a "Christian" that literally says that Jews are magically exempt

eah, that's why you said you were leaving, but came back all right. Great cope. lol.

Fair enough. I love arguing on the Internet. Especially with stupid faggots like you that pretend they know everything when they clearly don't.

 

[Mothra1988]

These aren't contradicting realities. St. John the Baptist was born a Jew and became an Apostle that wrote the book of Revelations, just like St. Paul was a Jew that persecuted Christians before he became one and wrote most of the New Testament. Really pedantic and idiotic argument you are making here. St. John was both a man of Jewish origin that was inspired Holy Scripture in the form of Revalation. You really are grasping at straws aren't you?

I had to do a triple take when I read this. Holy fucking shit, you actually think John the Baptist and John the Apostle/Revelator are the same person, and you're the one trying to rant at me about theology you don't understand. John the Baptist was executed before Christ was, you fucking idiot, and he has no existent writings or scripture (except for some probably created by his cult that became the Mandaeans, which is anti-christ stuff). He didn't write Revelation, you complete and utter moron, that was John the Apostle of the 12 Apostles, you know the author of the Gospel of John. Explain that one, nimrod. Explain how you can play-act like you know scripture better than me, but you think John the Baptist wrote Revelation. XD Hahahha.

You are a complete and utter joke. I'm not responding to the rest of that autism and your 5,000 word essay of how you can't understand how jews and gentiles are differentiated in Acts or Paul's epistles. This says everything anyone would ever need to know about what a non-Bible reading dipshit you are.

Edit: And just so you don't try to peddle this back, here is you saying the same thing earlier in the thread, confirming you actually believe this:

Revelation is very clearly a highly metaphorical book of the Bible, probably the most out of all the books of the Bible. It's no surprise that a 1st century Jewish man would talk about the 12 tribes of Israel being inscribed on the gates of Heaven. Whether it is literal or not, it's not really proof that the Jews have that same unique status as God's chosen people so much as it is St. John the Baptist's vision of Heaven.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

I had to do a triple take when I read this. Holy fucking shit, you actually think John the Baptist and John the Apostle/Revelator are the same person, and you're the one trying to rant at me about theology you don't understand. John the Baptist was executed before Christ was, you fucking idiot, and he has no existent writings or scripture (except for some probably created by his cult that became the Mandaeans, which is anti-christ stuff). He didn't write Revelation, you complete and utter moron, that was John the Apostle of the 12 Apostles, you know the author of the Gospel of John. Explain that one, nimrod. Explain how you can play-act like you know scripture better than me, but you think John the Baptist wrote Revelation.

>I confused people with the same name therefore my entire argument is invalid
It's a rather understandable error to make, seeing how they have exactly the same name (John) and are both associated to Jesus Christ. This is why I say you are mentally unwell. You take the smallest win, like me confusing St. John the Apostle with St. John the Baptist and write an entire paragraph on it. Only insecure faggots do that and mentally unwell ones in you case judging by your writing quality.

XD Hahahha.

Case in point.

You are a complete and utter joke. I'm not responding to the rest of that autism and your 5,000 word essay of how you can't understand how jews and gentiles are differentiated in Acts or Paul's epistles. This says everything anyone would ever need to know about what a non-Bible reading dipshit you are.

Sure whatever. You're a lolbert, lesbian idiot who thinks can't even into basic critical thinking skills let alone read a text and try and make very basic connections an illiterate could make just by basic observation. That fact that you can't even understand that the whole point of Christianity is to supersede Mosaic law is quite amazing seeing that you are one of the most uninformed, idiotic, retarded, hypocritical and frankly, just foolish people to claim to practice the faith on this fucking forum. You literally go out of you way to actually break not only the restrictions on the way you should treat people as dictated by your "faith" (or more likely, your false visage of religiosity based on your clearly about everyone that isn't the same type of Christian as me is a LARPing tradcath or orthobro), but you are literally a lesbian. That's sodomy. That's the type of shit Christ was talking about in terms of not getting rid of the law. I don't want to write anymore, but you do this in every thread, even in ones where I am not the one arguing with you and religion isn't the topic. Maybe it's not me that's the dipshit but you if this is how you act on a consistent basis to various other users about different topics. Maybe you are a just a histrionic retard that refuses to keep herself in check because you are BPD hoe that has nothing to offer the world but pretend you do regardless.

 

[The Lawgiver]

TikToker Jordan the Grey Witch brought the new version of Halloween to light after sharing the tale of a Canadian Evangelical Christian group that decided trick-or-treating was "ungodly" and rife with "evil characters."

Jordan the Grey Witch was quick to point out the hypocrisy of "JesusWeen." She argued, "They're hijacking Halloween to make it about them, even though they don't celebrate it. But the LGBTQ are the ones shoving their beliefs down everyone's throats."

GEE I WONDER IF JORDAN THE GREY WITCH HAS ANYTHING TO GAIN FROM FRAMING HALLOWEEN AS SEPARATE FROM CHRISTIANITY?


Also wasn't "jesusween" already a thing for some churches for decades? I fucking swear I've heard the term before 2010 at the least. Free bibles AND candy? shiiiieeeet that's a deal.

some religious institutions see Halloween as a pagan holiday promoting the celebration and glorification of evil spirits. They try their best to guard their children from the demonic spirits they believe are more prevalent than usual on that day.

I've never seen an entire institution do this, only fucking wackjobs or the ill informed. The spook factor costume stuff though ties back to some story about "warding off/scaring away evil spirits" if I remember this right, thought I could be mixing it up with another holiday.

Shit like this goes to show how fucking out of touch the Western world is with its Christian roots. Halloween is literally All Saint's Day Eve in Old English (Hallow-holy ones (i.e. saints), een-eve). The commercialization of traditionally Christian holidays like Easter, Christmas and Halloween and replacement of said gay corporate holidays with even gayer, misinformed modern Christian holidays that don't actually celebrate anything but the vanity and banal nature of modern faith is a fucking tragedy.

My family was never too deep into church shit and even I'm aware of the origins of Halloween's name, it's basic trivia type stuff.

 

[Mothra1988]

>I confused people with the same name therefore my entire argument is invalid
It's a rather understandable error to make, seeing how they have exactly the same name (John) and are both associated to Jesus Christ. This is why I say you are mentally unwell. You take the smallest win, like me confusing St. John the Apostle with St. John the Baptist and write an entire paragraph on it. Only insecure faggots do that and mentally unwell ones in you case judging by your writing quality.

Nah, you're not getting away with this. There's no way to confuse John the Baptist with John the Apostle as a Christian. For one, John the Baptist's role is literally defined by his name, you moron, he's the guy who baptized Jesus and then had his head chopped off by Herod Antipas. Thinking John the Baptist wrote Revelation, which you said more than once, means you have no understanding of the basic narratives of Jesus's life in the New Testament. It means you didn't read any of the four gospels. It means you don't understand EVERYTHING in the New Testament was written after the Crucifixion, which happened after John the Baptist's death. I means you didn't read the parts about John the Baptist's execution, or Jesus's baptism, or Jesus's commissioning of the apostles. It means you don't know who the 12 Apostles were or that John the Baptist had his own following separate from Christ's, or John the Apostle was in the inner most circle of Christ's following including after John the Baptist's martyring. Yeah you just went full Catholic stereotype in regards to not actually reading the Bible or learning about its contents because you think mass and the sacraments are enough. Bravo.

Just admit you are a neophyte who didn't read the Bible. It's fine. Everyone has to start somewhere, but take this sense of superiority you have and shove it up your ass. I don't care what names you call me or what ad hominem you use, don't come at me again with a religion debate when you have no clue what you are talking about. I'll just bring this up again to mock you, and you defintiely had that stupidity in your head becuase you repeated it more than once.

let alone read a text

Like how you didn't read the Bible to know John the Baptist was executed? LOL! Fuck off, hypocrite fraud. Hopefully, though you do actually read the Bible this time. Maybe you'll learn that al that tradcath retard stuff you believe isn't actually in there.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

"Jesusween", sounds like a Strongbad skit. Or the name of his new Christian Metal band.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

Nah, you're not getting away with this. There's no way to confuse John the Baptist with John the Apostle as a Christian.

I just did it and it's not enough of a big deal to respond to an entire paragraph on it, because frankly anyone dumb enough to fall for literal Israeli propaganda like the whole beheading of 40 kids shit (which you started a thread on in addition to blatant shilling by neocon faggots to give even more money to Israel that could be used in the USA to fix domestic problems , which actually explains a lot when it comes to your fetishization of Jewish people )is not worth the effort. Plus, you have to be really insecure to actually think this is noteworthy in anyway. St. John the Apostle was the last Apostle to die around 100 AD and St. John the Baptist literally gets executed due to the whims of a BPD hoe in the Bible. But they both lived around the same time and hung out with Jesus, so confusion between the two is not unreasonable compared to something like Joseph, the foster father of Jesus and the rainbow coat Joseph.

Other than mixing up the names, any reasonable person could come to the conclusion I was talking about the former not the latter. Clearly, you aren't reasonable and extremely insecure, which is why you are reading into a simple honest mistake deeper as if it means something when it doesn't, to the point you are trying to make. And I know you'll disagree, but I posted these threads above to show you how unreasonable and generally unhinged you come off as. So, fuck off. It's actually rather pathetic to change the topic so drastically when you can't even find the smallest sliver of support for your retarded worldview, but whatever. You are actually retarded and unhinged and a hypocrite. Not even in the sense of me insulting you. You are just an unhinged idiot who gets validation from pretending to be smart on the Internet, who probably has a host of actual mental issues and very very low cognition.

 

[WrenchWring]

Some good old fashioned Christian cringe, how genuinely refreshing. I'd rather deal with Christian moral busybodies than SocJus moral busybodies any day.