UN Australian vote to give Indigenous peoples a voice to parliament fails

Australian vote to give Indigenous peoples a voice to parliament fails​

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By Michael E. Miller
October 14, 2023 at 5:04 a.m. EDT

SYDNEY — Australians voted against a constitutional amendment on Saturday that would have recognized the country’s Indigenous peoples and provided them with an advisory body, or “Voice,” to Parliament.

The result had been predicted by polls but nonetheless came as a crushing blow for many Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples, who saw the referendum as an opportunity for Australia to turn the page on its colonial and racist past.

The Voice, deliberately drafted as a “modest proposal,” would have advised Parliament on issues relating to Indigenous peoples, such as housing, health care and employment, but would not have had veto power.

Instead, the opposition appeared to have successfully stirred fears over the proposal’s consequences with the slogan “If you don’t know, vote no” and claims that it was divisive, as well as targeted social media posts that were sometimes misleading or false.

The defeat was also a setback for the center-left Labor government and Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, who made the referendum a priority after winning office last year.

Referendums are difficult to pass Down Under, however. They require a so-called “double majority” — a majority of the nationwide vote and a majority within at least four of Australia’s six states.
Local media called the results at around 7:30 p.m. in Sydney — before the polls had even closed in some parts of the country — because three states had already solidly voted No: New South Wales, Tasmania and South Australia.

The Yes campaign appeared unlikely to prevail in any state.

Initially, polls showed roughly two-thirds of Australians supported the idea of an Indigenous “Voice to Parliament.” But after a poor performance in the 2022 election, leaders of the conservative coalition saw an opportunity to dent Albanese’s popularity and regain momentum, according to analysts.

“It was really done and dusted from that point,” said Paul Williams, a political scientist at Griffith University in Brisbane.

Williams also pointed to a difficult economic climate.

“When people can’t pay their rent or find a place to live or schedule their operation or they have to choose between feeding their kids and getting their medication, they are not terribly interested in helping other people who might be lower on the ladder,” he said.

Indigenous people have lived in Australia for around 65,000 years but suffered greatly with the arrival of the British in 1788.

Australia’s Indigenous population plummeted under colonial rule due to imported diseases and massacres committed by White settlers that lasted well into the 20th century. From the mid-1800s to the 1970s, federal and state governments systematically removed Indigenous children from their families to assimilate them; they are now known as the Stolen Generations.

Unlike other nations the British colonized, such as the United States, Canada and New Zealand, Australia has never recognized the sovereignty of its First Nations people with a treaty.

Although the country has begun to reckon with this racist history, including providing some reparations, it has struggled to reduce the disparity between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians, known as “closing the gap.”

Indigenous Australians have fought for greater rights for decades. It wasn’t until after a successful 1967 referendum that they were officially counted and legislated for by the federal government.

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'Australian vote to give Indigenous peoples a voice to parliament fails'
In what way did the vote 'fail'? Oh, you mean that people voted the 'wrong' way? Classic 'allowing people to vote on issues that affect them is extremely dangerous to Our Democracy®' kvetching from TPTB
"Well, since we were already subverting the process in which indigenous person(s) might be elected to parliament, we were kind of hoping you wouldn't notice?"
 
People recognized this was another thin end of the wedge to benefit not aboriginal people as a whole, but the aboriginal grievance bigots who are already quite well paid and taken care of

Would end up doing fuck all to help the gas huffers and the women and children they abuse, but would take power away from the Australian people in general and give it to a bunch of selfish bigots running a perpetual struggle session at taxpayer expense, at an even grander scale than they do already
Yeah it's very telling that the ACT is the only state to be majority in support of it. Government bureaucrats eager for an extra-legislative way to enforce their viewpoint.
 
Anyway I've heard that had this Voice thing passed, it would have only been the first in a series of Abo demands for an eventual formal treaty, reparations, a South Africa-style 'truth & reconciliation commission' and all sorts of other racial grievance bullshit. Frankly if that Pedopedia summary is even remotely close to the truth, Australians have just dodged a bullet the size of Saturn when they voted to shut this shit down by the margins they did.
That's all still going ahead irrespective of the voice - that's the core of the Aboriginal 'NO' argument. The Voice is just a rubber stamp that wouldn't amount to any real benefit for them, 'no voice before treaty'.
 
For those unaware, here is the Uluru Statement made by Abbos. This is what led to this referendum in the first place:

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Note that if the Voice went through, it was supposed to lead the “Marakatta Commission”. This would have been used to force “truth-telling” where white Australians would be compelled to feel guilty for the actions of their dead ancestors. It also would have led to serious discussions of paying billions in reparations and “land tax”, and given Abbos even more power to claim control of land used for farming, mining, etc.

Also, these lines are unintentional comedy gold:

“We are not an innately criminal people.” - Okay, so you CHOOSE to commit tons of crime then? Does that sound better?

“Our children are aliened from their families at unprecedented rates.” Hmm, no way is that because of the disgustingly high rates of abusive/alcoholic/drug addicted parents who don’t give a shit about their children?
 
With Abos, it's absolutely impossible to imagine. In this thread, I was really surprised to read that there are mixed people who have aboriginal ancestry but appear and are white. How did that even happen?
Australia was colonized by Bongland dumping convicts there. In that situation, any vagina is a win vs more dirty prison anus
 
How the hell did white people evolve to be so welcoming to other races?
They didn’t, they’ve been neutered. A series of wars and the aftermath of wars has done it. Conquer the population, treaty of Versailles them. When they get uppity again, bomb them into ash and then rebuild the society based in the guilt of ‘look what you made us do.’
Now the question is who did that, and why?
 
Aborigines is the only race of human beings that I can't imagine any outsider wanting to mate with.

Even the ugliest and manliest looking black African tribes will have some women with boobs and a not offensive face that could make you think, "yeah, I could see how mixed race people could come out of this situation."

With Abos, it's absolutely impossible to imagine. In this thread, I was really surprised to read that there are mixed people who have aboriginal ancestry but appear and are white. How did that even happen?
Regressive traits. Abo fucks a white person the baby will appear more white than abo, sometimes 100% white. This is not to mistake mixed race abos with fake abos.


There are no aborigines in Tasmania. These are literal Larpers/grifters who get shit loads of free gibs

IIRC this Voice, had it been created, would not even be the first 'Aboriginal advisory body to the government' anyway. The Australians had them before and disbanded them all after (as far as I can tell) they basically accomplished nothing, the difference is that this would have been constitutionally enshrined and thus permanent with no future government ever having the ability to dissolve it like the past attempts at a permanent Aboriginal council, right? (And realistically, leftist governments & idpol being what they are, it probably wouldn't have stayed 'advisory' for long anyway.)

Anyway I've heard that had this Voice thing passed, it would have only been the first in a series of Abo demands for an eventual formal treaty, reparations, a South Africa-style 'truth & reconciliation commission' and all sorts of other racial grievance bullshit. Frankly if that Pedopedia summary is even remotely close to the truth, Australians have just dodged a bullet the size of Saturn when they voted to shut this shit down by the margins they did.

The voice proposal was left deliberately vague. If they told the public what it was really leading to it would have lost even bigger. The idea was to fart out platitudes about inclusion and scream racist at anyone who asked an awkward question.
 
I knew there was a reason RespectElves was happy today on Twitter.
 
There's a $50 fine if you don't vote in Australia. Polls were still open in my state when they announced the defeat, so some people were left waiting in line to vote for a referendum that had already been lost, but which they had to vote it or else get fined. Massive waste of everyone's time and money...

This used to happen in Canuckistan as well (minus the mandatory voting fines).

The country spans enough timezones and the population is centered mostly in the east in Toronto and Montreal. So the central Canada polls close and start being tallied and reported while Western Canadians were still in line.

So then the government imposed some embargoes on MSM preventing them from reporting any results until West coast polls finally closed.

But then social and independent media emerged, making the reporting on results more decentralized.

IIRC, the government somehow lost a court challenge creating a weird playing field where legacy media had restrictions and everyone else could go whole hog.
 
Well done, Australia! I still think Australia is an authoritarian shithole, but I'm proud of them for not succumbing to this extreme white guilt measure. At least, for now.
 
The Chinese give even less of a fuck about the indigenous than the Whites do. Plus they have zero cultural guilt attached to them so they're a lot harder to manipulate into giving themselves a disadvantage.
The Chinese will destroy your country just to do it. That same zero cultural guilt will allow them to dismantle centuries of commonwealth traditions and institutions. They often use indigenous groups to destroy any power the majority has, before oppressing the ethnic minority groups even harder.

If you think unchecked Chinese immigration is going to result in a more based country, I have to tell you it will not.
 
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