2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

mindlessobserver said:
A Gauge of what? I said it was a good gauge for what the Arabs are thinking. Am I wrong?
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You're wrong. It would be like watching the Young Turks and saying that is what all Americans must think. Or, realistically, watching MSNBC and saying all Americans must think that way. The problem is that Aljazeera likes to brand itself as "CNN" but they are duplicitous. To their arab viewers they will say "Americans and Israelis must die prase the mardyers who kill Israeli civilians" to Americans they say "Israelis and Americans kill poor Hamas and Palestinians who didn't do nuthn wrong" and on AJ+ they legit post lies like "look at these amazing gay/trans Palestinian that the Israelis are killing". Seriously do not get your news from them or Press TV (Press TV is Iranian-owned). The BBC is also trash because it sucks off the Palestinians. i24 is good but is Israeli news with its audience being diaspora Jews, but is good as it talks about all sides of the Israeli political spectrum. The Arabs are a hard nut to crack, all of them hate each other.
 
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King George III said:
None of the Hebe News outlets I've been following are reporting the weather delay. For fuck's sake, please let it be a fake-out.
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Strategically, outside of maybe a few raids to try to free hostages, or at least recover their bodies (which I think we saw last night), Israel has no reason to go in anytime soon.

It's a siege. Israel stated as such. The Gazans aren't begging en masse to be let into Egypt so they don't starve/dehydrate (they could maybe try begging the IDF but lol. Lmao even).

Like, good odds Israel wants Gaza emptied of Palestinians. A bunch moved south, sure, but Israel wants them in fucking Egypt, never to be dealt with again. Egypt is keeping the border closed, still, because they also hate Gazans/Hamas, and really don't want to deal with 2 million terrorist supporting cockroaches scurrying around the Sinai. But as pressure mounts, no Western country will tell Israel "Oh yeah totally feed the citizens of Gaza after Hamas murders you" as we know full well any aid will bolster Hamas.

Hilariously enough, if Hamas doesn't want to see Gaza purged of Palestinians, they should surrender unconditionally. Free what hostages they have left. Have their surviving leaders and a lot of their terrorist members surrender to the mercy of the Israelis. They'll likely all be executed, which, again, no great loss, but in turn, Israel would have to end the siege, and allow resources to enter. Israel couldn't justify a siege to the world if they actually got what they stated they desired.
 
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Maori Kiwifruit Growers said:
You're wrong. It would be like watching the Young Turks and saying that is what all Americans must think. Or, realistically, watching MSNBC and saying all Americans must think that way. The problem is that Aljazeera likes to brand itself as "CNN" but they are duplicitous. To their arab viewers they will say "Americans and Israelis must die prase the mardyers who kill Israeli civilians" to Americans they say "Israelis and Americans kill poor Hamas and Palestinians who didn't do nuthn wrong" and on AJ+ they legit post lies like "look at these amazing gay/trans Palestinian that the Israelis are killing". Seriously do not get your news from them or Press TV (Press TV is Iranian-owned). The BBC is also trash because it sucks off the Palestinians. i24 is good but is Israeli news with its audience being diaspora Jews, but is good as it talks about all sides of the Israeli political spectrum. The Arabs are a hard nut to crack, all of them hate each other.
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Yeah, all of those damn Palestinians are the ones who control our media, banks, politicians, and academia. Poor Jews can't catch a break :(
 
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Just_Somebody said:
Strategically, outside of maybe a few raids to try to free hostages, or at least recover their bodies (which I think we saw last night), Israel has no reason to go in anytime soon.

It's a siege. Israel stated as such. The Gazans aren't begging en masse to be let into Egypt so they don't starve/dehydrate (they could maybe try begging the IDF but lol. Lmao even).

Like, good odds Israel wants Gaza emptied of Palestinians. A bunch moved south, sure, but Israel wants them in fucking Egypt, never to be dealt with again. Egypt is keeping the border closed, still, because they also hate Gazans/Hamas, and really don't want to deal with 2 million terrorist supporting cockroaches scurrying around the Sinai. But as pressure mounts, no Western country will tell Israel "Oh yeah totally feed the citizens of Gaza after Hamas murders you" as we know full well any aid will bolster Hamas.

Hilariously enough, if Hamas doesn't want to see Gaza purged of Palestinians, they should surrender unconditionally. Free what hostages they have left. Have their surviving leaders and a lot of their terrorist members surrender to the mercy of the Israelis. They'll likely all be executed, which, again, no great loss, but in turn, Israel would have to end the siege, and allow resources to enter. Israel couldn't justify a siege to the world if they actually got what they stated they desired.
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According to the weather channel website, it's just a bit of rain. Nothing crazy. Maybe it will push operations off a few hours.

https://weather.com/weather/tenday/...f5de72a0e74a26c2645748ebdd593c3b21f939014c29e

Also, according to the US State Department: 29 Americans were confirmed killed, 15 missing,

 
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Maori Kiwifruit Growers said:
Did anyone bring in the Chief of Staff?
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I doubt it, but it's not inconceivable. There's a pedestrian bridge that connects the Azrieli mall to IDF headquarters.

Police rabbi asking forgiveness from a fallen policewoman before sending her off to the cemetery. This is a standard Jewish funeral practice to show respect to the dead, but not the apology about having to use an armored bus instead of a hearse:
 
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Dave Foliage said:
Entertaining info.
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It seems like the one decent thing that might come out of this is violent leftists winding up at the wrong end of the bureaucracy again.

Give me my rainbow stickers, but even if they divert 1% of govt manpower to dealing with the worst of these shitbags it will be better than the literal nothing that's been going on for almost 2 decades now. If nothing else, the Jews and their puppets have long memories and it will be nice to see the infighting for a while.

I mean I'm sure in a couple months it will all be back to normal and all sins forgiven (same side, bro!) But if we get even one shrieking barrista receiving the brunt of their God in action, it will be a win in my book.
 
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EyeGuy said:
I doubt it, but it's not inconceivable. There's a pedestrian bridge that connects the Azrieli mall to IDF headquarters.
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Yeah but I mean wouldn't the commanders rather let the troops buy food from overpriced vendors when you're out on field training? Also, I would legit stab someone to have a Big America Burger and schnitzel tiras again.
 
Just_Somebody said:
Hilariously enough, if Hamas doesn't want to see Gaza purged of Palestinians, they should surrender unconditionally.
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They won't. Ironically, I had some forlorn hope the UN Security Council would actually, for once, do something. What's about to happen could have been preempted by a declaration of a UN Mandate in Gaza and the formation of an International Army to go in and seize control of the area.

That was what could have really upset the apple cart. It would have preempted Israel, it would have gotten rid of Hamas, and it would have upheld the rules based international order. But it was never going to happen, because when the rubber hits the road international norms are meaningless words on paper. The only authority in this world is violence, and "the rules based international order" doesn't have access to violent force at all. It must rely on weak pleading and mewling.
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
Also re the whole mcdonalds thing, burger king got them beat on that with an ad campaign they did a few years back. If you bring in your ranking officer, you get free food.

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If you brought in the Chief of Staff, you got 50 free burger king meals.
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That is Hamas's secret plan. Trick all the IDF to come and eat Burger King all day, and than go "HEART ATTACK AKBAR" . And here I was thinking Hamas had no good working plan!8)
 
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Breadbassket said:
Palestinian protesters ask men with Taliban flags to leave.
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Palestinians: start arguing with the people who have Taliban flags and run in front of the car to stop it
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Dragged Into Sunlight said:
This was how every war was fought before mass media.

Would we have won if we had CNN in every city we bombed in Germany or Japan posting thousands of dead women and children?
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Funny really, I heard someone mention Ken Jarecke today. The photojournalist who took that famous photo during the first Gulf War.
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Same deal with Kevin Carter, the photojournalist who took that picture of the dying Ethiopian toddler as a vulture looked on. They both had to justify why they'd taken those photos. Back when photographs were all on film, these sorts of images coming out of warzones or humanitarian disasters were unspeakably horrifying, because people didn't walk around with cameras on them at all times and there were big debates about the ethics of taking the photos, let alone publishing them. And now we've got Hamas uploading TikToks of them slaughtering civillians and a livestream of Gaza getting flattened.
 
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Pres. Donald John Trump said:
The moment to strike was now. This delay was a serious mistake. Israel is going to look worse and worse the longer it waits. It's almost like this is a globally-coordinated satanic humiliation ritual designed to usher in the final abomination.
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The delay probably has something to do with properly setting up positions instead of any PR reason. Military reasons trump political ones during the beginning of a war.
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
Also re the whole mcdonalds thing, burger king got them beat on that with an ad campaign they did a few years back. If you bring in your ranking officer, you get free food.

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You would think they would AT LEAST offer cheese burgers for the higher up officers.

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If watched all those tanks and APCs trying to stage earlier today you would realize the issue the IDF has is not lack of material. It's the ability to actually get all the shit it needs into the place it wants. Thank God Israel is not trying to mobilize against a peer power because that shit was "Russia on the Road to Kiev" tier bad.
 
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